2021 Best & Fairest Night

[At Least I Saw a Flag 5,170]

1 hour ago, Pates said:

Clarry will go down as an all time great not just of the club but of the competition. Congratulations to him and all winners of various awards. 

Interesting (and really good) to see that ANB won the coaches award. I remember when he got unfairly screwed by the MRO for his dangerous tackle against Adelaide last year (deserved suspension but not the length), I genuinely thought that could be the end of him. But the club stuck fat with his, he came into the pre-season same as TMac with a clean slate and rejuvenated attitude, and became the true definition of a clubman and a role player. He clearly loves the club, and is loved by his teammates. I’m more than happy to eat humble pie with my previous beliefs on what he would be as a player. 

The other thing to note, as you’d expect from such a great year, is the players that ended up outside the top 10. Fritta had an incredible year, Brayshaw sacrificed to play a team oriented position, Spargo always cracked in, and Jackson won the Rising star. I don’t think any of them would begrudge their positions, they ultimately got to taste the greatest victory of all!

Sort of ... but the club shopping ANB round (and TMac), but there wasn't any real interest in either.

ANB was great the whole season. TMac was fantastic the first half of the season, but dropped off towards the end. 

 

[Gator 17,261]

I don't know if it's been mentioned, but it struck me as being incredibly poetic and reflective of the entire 2021 season that the two players told to look elsewhere during the off-season were the same two players that had the final 2 disposals in the grand final.  Oliver marks, handballs to Neale-Bullen who short kicks to McDonald.

And it's fitting that they round out the top 10 in the B&F.

What a year.

[Demon17 5,102]

16 minutes ago, Hannibal Inc. said:

I don't know if it's been mentioned, but it struck me as being incredibly poetic and reflective of the entire 2021 season that the two players told to look elsewhere during the off-season were the same two players that had the final 2 disposals in the grand final.  Oliver marks, handballs to Neale-Bullen who short kicks to McDonald.

And it's fitting that they round out the top 10 in the B&F.

What a year.

Agreed and then when you take Langdon with those to, to me it shows how valued by the match cttee is work ethic.  

Not saying the total top 10 don't work hard , they do, but Nibbler and Langdon , and now Tmac are just gut runners extraordinary for the team and would have contrinuted to their finishes in the B and F.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,480]

Hard to believe Fritsch kicked 59 goals in a season of footy but can’t crack the top 10.

Although in fairness he plays in a position where you’re prone to a quiet game or 2.

[The Lobster Effect 884]

Tmac finishing in the top 10 is also a fair effort considering he didn't do much in his last 6 weeks after his injury. Shows what a great start to the year he had.

[old dee 23,527]

I did not watch the whole show but it looked like it was well done. That's 2 in a row following the Sunday a few weeks ago. 

[Trisul 664]

Adjusted for points per game:

01. 26.80 (670) (1) – Clayton Oliver
02. 25.76 (644) (2) – Christian Petracca
03. 21.68 (542) (3) – Max Gawn
04. 20.88 (522) (4) – Christian Salem
05. 20.29 (487) (6) – Ed Langdon
06. 20.20 (303) (16) – Jack Viney
07. 19.92 (498) (5) – Jake Lever
08. 18.74 (431) (7) – Steven May
09. 17.74 (408) (9) – Tom McDonald
10. 16.84 (421) (8) – Alex Neal-Bullen
11. 16.32 (408) (10 )– Kysaiah Pickett
12. 16.54 (397) (11) – Bayley Fritsch
13. 15.42 (293) (17) – Harry Petty
14. 15.33 (368)  (12) – Luke Jackson
15. 14.67 (264) (19) – James Harmes
16. 13.36 (334) (13) – Charlie Spargo
17. 13.28 (332) (14)– Angus Brayshaw
18. 12.40 (310) (18) – Trent Rivers
19. 12.10 (242) (20) – Jayden Hunt
20. 11.08 (277) (19) – James Jordon

Note: medical sub would have impacted 
- James Jordon with 5 (?) times as MS with 2 (?) of those partial games. PPG removing 3 games: 12.59. Removing 5 games: 13.85

Edited December 18, 2021 by Trisul

[old55 22,996]

5 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Take Brayshaw for example. 332 votes from 25 games.averaging 13.28 votes a game from 4 coaches. 

 

Ie each coach on average gave him on average 3.32 votes out of a possible 10.

 

Is that right. Sounds too low

 

Oliver scored 6.7 votes on average from each coach.. 

Agree. It seems pretty weird that Jake Lever scored 498 or 49.8% for that season.

Yes even Clarrie went at only 67%.

[Sydney_Demon 1,175]

I missed this last night. Is there anywhere I can now watch the whole thing? I know highlights are on the website but I'd prefer to just watch the whole thing. Thanks in advance.

[Wizard of Koz 1,074]

1 hour ago, Trisul said:

Adjusted for points per game:

01. 26.80 (670) (1) – Clayton Oliver
02. 25.76 (644) (2) – Christian Petracca
03. 21.68 (542) (3) – Max Gawn
04. 20.88 (522) (4) – Christian Salem
05. 20.29 (487) (6) – Ed Langdon
06. 20.20 (303) (16) – Jack Viney
07. 19.92 (498) (5) – Jake Lever
08. 18.74 (431) (7) – Steven May
09. 17.74 (408) (9) – Tom McDonald
10. 16.84 (421) (8) – Alex Neal-Bullen
11. 16.32 (408) (10 )– Kysaiah Pickett
12. 16.54 (397) (11) – Bayley Fritsch
13. 15.42 (293) (17) – Harry Petty
14. 15.33 (368)  (12) – Luke Jackson
15. 14.67 (264) (19) – James Harmes
16. 13.36 (334) (13) – Charlie Spargo
17. 13.28 (332) (14)– Angus Brayshaw
18. 12.40 (310) (18) – Trent Rivers
19. 12.10 (242) (20) – Jayden Hunt
20. 11.08 (277) (19) – James Jordon

Note: medical sub would have impacted 
- James Jordon with 5 (?) times as MS with 2 (?) of those partial games. PPG removing 3 games: 12.59. Removing 5 games: 13.85

I am tipping that the score tally of our top 10 would have won the Bluey in our lean years. 

 

 

[picket fence 16,803]

3 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Congrats Clarry 

I hope someone is there to help him with public speaking going forward 

He was really struggling last night

He gets very nervous, but there was one player who was even more nervous in front of a camera...... Brett Lovett😂

[spirit of norm smith 15,488]

1 hour ago, Trisul said:

Adjusted for points per game:

01. 26.80 (670) (1) – Clayton Oliver
02. 25.76 (644) (2) – Christian Petracca
03. 21.68 (542) (3) – Max Gawn
04. 20.88 (522) (4) – Christian Salem
05. 20.29 (487) (6) – Ed Langdon
06. 20.20 (303) (16) – Jack Viney
07. 19.92 (498) (5) – Jake Lever
08. 18.74 (431) (7) – Steven May
09. 17.74 (408) (9) – Tom McDonald
10. 16.84 (421) (8) – Alex Neal-Bullen
11. 16.32 (408) (10 )– Kysaiah Pickett
12. 16.54 (397) (11) – Bayley Fritsch
13. 15.42 (293) (17) – Harry Petty
14. 15.33 (368)  (12) – Luke Jackson
15. 14.67 (264) (19) – James Harmes
16. 13.36 (334) (13) – Charlie Spargo
17. 13.28 (332) (14)– Angus Brayshaw
18. 12.40 (310) (18) – Trent Rivers
19. 12.10 (242) (20) – Jayden Hunt
20. 11.08 (277) (19) – James Jordon

Note: medical sub would have impacted 
- James Jordon with 5 (?) times as MS with 2 (?) of those partial games. PPG removing 3 games: 12.59. Removing 5 games: 13.85

Interesting analysis. Yes it shows that Viney had important and what he had a good year when he played.  

[dl4e 5,851]

Well Oliver won it and he richly deserved to do so.

[rpfc 28,075]

13 hours ago, 58er said:

He didn't struggle to perform offensively,

His role was to support the backline and link up with the forward line which he did in a calm and efficient role playing manner. He was never going to be in the top 10 after he relinquished his on ball position for the team.

Will always be able to stand tall for his play all season and magnificent best game ever ( for impact and team play) in the Grand Final. 

Angus  like Tmac is a total team player ! 

 

 

Langdon does both. 

Look, I am not going to sit here and criticise Angus because he is now a champion Demon but the winger role is one that requires defensive positioning and mindset and Langdon did that and was able to link up in the forward half too. He was that good. Angus had games where he was able to do that and the GF was an absolute willingness by him to make the dogs pay whenever they wanted to avoid Langdons wing, which a number of teams did in 2021.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

In the heat of a grand final, when everything was on the line, Gus performed, which is exactly what we would want of any player. Gus now premiership hero. Go Gus! Harmes, Kozzie ... lean pickings on the stats sheet, but contributors in big moments. They can all hold their heads up.

GO DEMONS!!!

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

These boys actually did it. Crikey. Melbourne premiers. They actually did it.

[Pates 9,626]

Does anyone have what they scored for JUST the Grand Final. Curious to know how they rated it, and whether Trac was the coaches pick for BOG. 

[WalkingCivilWar 39,266]

48 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

These boys actually did it. Crikey. Melbourne premiers. They actually did it.

You sound exactly like me, Mazer. I’m still saying this to anyone who’ll listen and even a few who won’t; well, tbh, to myself mostly. 😁 Melbourne… Premiers. Still feels a little incongruous.

Last Saturday Whispering Jack reminded us that next Saturday, xmas day, will mark three months since that absolutely glorious night in September. Three months!!! Not only has time flown, but this awesome post-premiership feeling hasn’t diminished one iota. Moreover, it hasn’t fully sunk in. Well, for me, anyways. I don’t know if it ever will. And you know what??? I don’t mind if it never does! 
WE ARE PREMIERS!!!!

❤️💙❤️💙
(Probs should’ve posted this in the “That Premiership Feeling” thread.)

Edited December 18, 2021 by WalkingCivilWar
Realised this needs to be in a more suitable thread.

[Bobby McKenzie 2,366]

On 12/17/2021 at 6:22 PM, Whispering_Jack said:

The Norm Smith Memorial Trophy is a coach’s award and this year the winner was Alex Neal-Bullen.

And such a worthy winner. He had a wonderful season and his play in the GF was outstanding with his goal assists with pin point passes. Shows so much passion and obviously loves the MFC and his team mates. Congratulations ANB.

[Wrecker46 2,903]

19 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Congrats Clarry 

I hope someone is there to help him with public speaking going forward 

He was really struggling last night

When he wins the Norm Smith next year let's hope they forget to give him the microphone like what happened to Goody.

Public speaking might not be his strength but playing footy is and that's the main thing.

[Demon17 5,102]

20 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Congrats Clarry 

I hope someone is there to help him with public speaking going forward 

He was really struggling last night

Some say public speaking is feared second only to dying.  Then daylight. Why should Clarry be any different to most.

Check out his one-on-one interview with Dylan Buckley mentioned on here recently. Its about an hour, and Clarry is insightful, articulate and showed great self-awareness.

Just not in front of 1500 people  - that will terrify most.

On the big stage though he just lets his play do the speaking.

We are blessed to be seeing this young man in red and blue and wathcing his progress at this time.

 

Edited December 18, 2021 by Demon17

[manny100 1,411]

Well done Clayton Oliver. Should end up one of the Dees best ever.

Gus Brayshaw played his best game for the season in the GF. Very suited to the 'hand to hand' combat in a GF. Very good at dropping back and doing the heavy lifting.

 

 

[Billy 2,497]

50 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

Some say public speaking is feared second only to dying.  Then daylight. Why should Clarry be any different to most.

Check out his one-on-one interview with Dylan Buckley mentioned on here recently. Its about an hour, and Clarry is insightful, articulate and showed great self-awareness.

Just not in front of 1500 people  - that will terrify most.

On the big stage though he just lets his play do the speaking.

We are blessed to be seeing this young man in red and blue and wathcing his progress at this time.

 

Exactly,  we don’t all need to be media superstars, he speaks by his actions not words.

Theres too much talk😂

A humble champion is our Clarry

[jnrmac 19,931]

22 hours ago, BDA said:

Says a lot about how the club deals with players that TMac and Nibbler, both told to look at their options in the off season, performed so strongly in the B&F voting. We really are in great shape culture wise

Also a great narrative for fringe players. Everyone can improve, clean slate every year, no grudges, hard work rewarded..

 

tmac and anb and are living proof 

[Sir Why You Little 36,737]

4 hours ago, Demon17 said:

Some say public speaking is feared second only to dying.  Then daylight. Why should Clarry be any different to most.

Check out his one-on-one interview with Dylan Buckley mentioned on here recently. Its about an hour, and Clarry is insightful, articulate and showed great self-awareness.

Just not in front of 1500 people  - that will terrify most.

On the big stage though he just lets his play do the speaking.

We are blessed to be seeing this young man in red and blue and wathcing his progress at this time.

 

Agreed. 
i wasn’t having a go at him, i felt sorry for him in that moment