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  1. Hi all. Been a while. Yze coming home
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  2. Another season’s done and dusted and we at Demonland would like to thank all of you our contributors for your participation in this difficult year for the Melbourne Football Club. In particularly, I would like to thank Nasher for keeping the site together and to our feature writers George on the Outer, Whispering Jack, The Oracle and all of our other contributors for keeping Demonland going throughout season 2020. Also a big thank you to Whispering Jack, grapeviney and George on their tireless and often thankless efforts as Moderators. And now, we look forward to the future. Bri
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  3. As most of you will know I attended many of Melbourne's training sessions at Gosch's before we moved to Casey as a result of Covid. My main interest was the rehab group, I always like to see who's in rehab and how they are progressing and as a result I watched Harley on many occasions. I'll confess to being hard line when it comes to a failure of individual responsibilities and whilst I welcomed Harley's presence because I thought he had exactly the skills we needed I wasn't sold on him as a person for obvious reasons. But since then a couple of things have happened. The first was read
    47 points
  4. OK. Viney does multiple roles, and it varied depending on who is in the centre with him. Here is one against St Kilda, without Oliver. It's Viney, Brayshaw and Petracca. This is set up for Petracca to have the who far side open to him. Viney blocks out Steele, Brayshaw gets inside Jones to block and Petracca beats Ross and gets to the far side with space. This is shown below: Unfortunately the play breaks down because Brayshaw can't get inside Jones to block him out, so Jones gets the ball before it gets to Petracca. Viney, on the other hand, gets Steele out of position a
    44 points
  5. For those who can get past the paywall, article is here: VINEY REVEALS WHY HE TURNED DOWN A MOVE TO THE CATS A few choice bits from the article: One of the main reasons he re-signed was his faith in Goodwin. Did have his father's blessing to leave if that was what he chose, but he felt he would be abandoning the club and Goodwin if he left. He did, for a time, seriously consider the offer that was on the table from the Cats. Losing the captaincy stung at first, but that is well and truly in the past. Really believes in the vision of the club moving for
    39 points
  6. When playing at North - hate his stupid run up, hate his flopping for frees, hate how straight of a kick he is for goal and I hate his stupid hair cut. Now that he is pretty much going to be a Demon - the run up is perfect and genius, those free kicks are always there and he gets a poor run from the umps, he is a beautiful set shot and I wish I had a hair cut like his.
    37 points
  7. Ripper kid. Rapt with this. Rivers extends until 2023
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  8. I worked with David Rennick, as a representative of a corporate client using his firm's property, development and construction expertise, over a number of years in a past life. Serious Dees supporter (our relationship was during the exciting '90s!), central to growing his niche firm to major status, and/but a down to earth regular guy. I expect his worth will be considerable in the new headquarters project.
    32 points
  9. All looking good. Expect him to nominate melbourne any time now. Both parties are seemingly very excited.
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  10. I'll put my balls on the line for ya mate. A few things have already happened, but got some whispers (of varying degrees of source quality) to tide you over. (Need the distraction from the Grand Final tbh, depressing) OUT TMac - All depends on medicals (ankle injury). Player and club want the change, opposition interest will determine it. ANB - Apparently some interest from the Crows. Not a lot of noise tho, but tbf he's not an exciting player to talk about. Preuss - Melbourne will try and do a deal to see them go up the draft order. Very keen on Macrae, who they think will be avai
    30 points
  11. Huge news for us and a massive win!
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  12. If we gave Smith a three year contract, he contributed strongly for a flag push for two seasons and had one season of pension padding, that is money extremely well spent in my eyes.
    29 points
  13. Brown and smith are coming, hind I think will as well, and there are two other players who’d walk into our best 22 that haven’t been mentioned on here that I’ve been asked not to name. But I’m sure demonlanders won’t complain when the names are revealed. we’re desperate to get young macrae through the door. looking at a similar restructure to our list as the saints had last year introducing a lot of speed to their side
    28 points
  14. Hate the habit of bagging our players, particularly those who have given their all and are simply moving on because of the way modern sport has to be. Tom has been a great servant for us if he needs to move on to get a list spot, good luck to him.
    28 points
  15. We had very few soft tissue injuries this year. I have no medical background or expertise at all but it wouldn't surprise me if there is a link between aerobic/physical fitness and soft tissue injuries. Hopefully someone like @Webber can tell me whether there's any link. But putting that to one side, we won 11 fourth quarters (4th best for the league) but also drew another two, which overall made us the 2nd best team for fourth quarters. Our fourth quarter percentage was 164.85%, a clear second (Geelong was first at 179.9%, St Kilda third at 134.88%). We outscored our opponents in fourth
    27 points
  16. Sam Edmund on SEN pretty much going with Ben Brown is looking likely to be a demon. Has already done a medical and has had two meetings and by all reports went well.
    26 points
  17. I concur with Nasher. I must be one of the few Demonlanders that think we can salute in 2021. And I genuinely do. I see shades of Geelong 2006 and Richmond 2016 in this Melbourne side. Not many clubs boast our top-end talent and plenty of the support cast are also quality. What we lack is depth/role players. And like Richmond did after 2016 we need to improve our ball movement/game-plan. When I think of Isaac Smith ALL I'm concentrating on is the 2021 season. Not 2022 or 2023, just 2021. Which is why I'm not hung up on the terms of his contract. He has at least two go
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  18. Sometimes you need to remember that players are people with families. Oscar has copped some serious abuse from supporters and honestly if he wants out, so be it. He is far from the worst player to ever make a career for themselves in the AFL.
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  19. My mail for those interested. 1. Ben brown is likely to be a dee, money isn’t an issue with this deal it’s agreed in principal. We’ve made our pitch now Ben brown is taking some time to consider his options but we are at the front of the que, despite less money because were a vic based finals contender. 2. We made an approach to Nathan Bassett about joining as our forwards coach but he declined. 3. the club is actively looking to get back into the top 10 of the draft. Have had a keen interest in finlay McRae as lord nev mentioned for some time 4. Clayton Oliver w
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  20. You want to start from the bottom? That isn't ruthless, it's something else entirely. One of the commonalities among all of the recent successful teams is that they went through a period of not quite making the grade when it seemed like they should. Throughout these periods, those teams didn't flinch. They made smart decisions and chipped away at their deficiencies. Hardwick had seven - what many here would call failed - seasons at Richmond before breaking through. Had Richmond jumped the gun and removed Hardwick, I doubt they would have had anywhere near the same success.
    24 points
  21. Good call @Lord Nev. I heard 4 years, you heard 5. Your source was correct. Hats off to you and good result for the club as he is definitely a heart and soul player. Now we need to balance the midfield better and play Jack to his strengths.
    24 points
  22. Pleased to see he didn’t miss the dotted line.
    24 points
  23. Hearing his medical looks good so physically shouldn’t be any reason he can’t get back to his best. it sounds like a good deal of his challenges this year were related to off field tensions at NM and family tragedy.
    23 points
  24. Well I must say it will be a shame if Essendon are decimated by the loss of a number of players they would probably wish to keep. First Saad, now Daniher. Who next ? Let the dominoes fall and the evil empire struggle to compete for a decade. Couldnt happen to a better bunch of bastrrrrrds !!!
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  26. This is where I’d be hopeless as a list manager. I know from what he showed this year that he is at or near the end, but he is such a quality person, and such a great influence and role model to our players, that I couldn’t let him go. id be offering him a role at the club to keep him. When you have a gem like Nev, you should never part with it.
    21 points
  27. 21 points
  28. Do supporters realise there's a limited pool of players moving club each year ? Do they realise their club is restricted to those limited choices ? Do they want their list to improve ? You may not be overly excited by Polec, but do you think he'll make the list worse ? Who else do you think is available if you don't want him ? Ball butcher Phillips ? Who else ? Not to mention I reckon some people posting here have no great grasp on opposition players anyway. They see them fleetingly yet make concrete opinions based on small samples. Yet when one of their players is set to
    20 points
  29. He’ll take the number one defender which will hopefully stop the opposition from double-teaming Weid leaving him to do his thing and allowing Jackson to develop. No brainer IMO.
    20 points
  30. Tried out for Manchester United as a kid and also represented Tasmania in Junior cricket in case you didn’t hear the commentary every single time he lined up for goal.
    20 points
  31. Great news. Both great fellas who are rated highly by the club.
    20 points
  32. I was told couple of weeks ago that the Club is in advanced discussions with Yze and are being listened to by Leppitsch. My source said that Yze is very likely and if Leppitsch decides to continue in Footy, it will be with the Dees.
    20 points
  33. Yep, this. Completely agree. Great post. Smith and Polec could well have a revolutionary impact on our game style. A bit like Port's forward dynamism at the top of 2019 having brought in the players they did in the 2018 draft. Geelong changed their forward make up too leading into 2019 with similar results. If the likes of Oliver and Petracca are teaming with ball users like Smith and Polec, we'll look a very different team. We definitely need to exploit our midfield dominance more and hopefully Yze plays a big role here, but as for the rest of the field, my big concern is the
    19 points
  34. My god this club is literally disintegrating. Viney can't stand Oliver to the point where he will leave the state. It's obvious from the body language Max & Clarry are both off to the Suns.
    19 points
  35. So putting this on the front page of the Hun killed it. Taskforce coming back very soon with recommendations. One option building over the AAMI carpark on Gosch's side. Either way, likely to have a location for our future base soon.
    19 points
  36. Nev is another who spent most of 2019 injured and the lack of a VFL comp in 2020 prevented him from finding form and consistency. 2020 is a poor measure of his performance. I wouldn't be too quick to trade him out especially if it was for some rubbish pick. Sometimes a players team value and cultural value cannot measured. I don't mean indigenous cultural value albeit that is important. I mean cultural value in terms of role model and standards both football and community contribution.
    19 points
  37. Its official!!! https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/824053 Oooooozzzeee!!!
    19 points
  38. I spoke to Petracca not long ago actually, he said he was ashamed of himself for not winning the 1972 flag.
    19 points
  39. Apparently an upset Paul Roos was led to believe the job was his but it was just a trick by North Melbourne. Tomorrow's headline: Roos Rues Roos' Ruse.
    18 points
  40. Very risky, imagine Jesse and Buddy both driving to training... Potential carnage
    18 points
  41. I've resisted commenting hoping it would just go away, but seeing this thread sitting near the top of the forum each time I come on Demonland is stress inducing. Oliver is about as close to untradeable as you can get in my opinion. I rate him right up alongside Petracca, only difference is Oliver has been top shelf from the minute he walked into the side as an 18 year old.
    18 points
  42. Persist with Fritsch????? He is only our most consistent forward the last two years, and probably the best mark in our team. He is a great young talent and I really don’t get the haters.
    18 points
  43. I went to school and played under age football with a guy who was at least 1 or 2 levels better than anyone else in the team. He was about 10x better than me. He went to a successful VFL club and played 2 or 3 seasons in the U19s and Reserves before moving to a successful football career at a strong club in a rated regional league. I know how good he was and he couldn't make it at the top level. I never call AFL players spuds for that reason.
    18 points
  44. Was credited with vastly improving the Hawks' kicking skills while in charge of that area. Worked his way up to being match day/strategy. Kicking skills and strategy. Pretty perfect for us.
    18 points
  45. The ex-player scandals are becoming more pissweak by the day. By Friday it's Josh Wagner crossing the road against the red man.
    18 points
  46. He has tried it for 7 games since he's come to the club. We are 1 win and 6 losses in those games. When he was the sole ruck we were 2 wins and 1 loss. The year before he played 6 games with Goldstein ..... they lost all 6 games. He was only involved in one win, and that was when Goldstein was injured and Preuss was the number 1 ruckman. Overall, when playing in a 2 ruck setup, Preuss is 1 win and 12 losses, whilst being 3 wins 2 losses when rucking alone. I'm not sure how much more evidence we need to understand that Preuss as a second ruck is definitely not a winning tactic!
    18 points
  47. Well let’s analyse your post. Mismanagement: We contracted 3 players on the back of good years that all of us were desperate to keep. All were happy at the time. All clubs that sign players who lose form are clearly then mismanagers. Deceipt: We got a free agent who has a big tank and played mainly as a wingman. Now with us he is being used in other roles. Clearly the Pies were also deceitful when they recruited their best defender as a forward, but who proved better down back. Misjudgement: Lever, now playing well and doing what he was recruited for. Yes ,a good example of mi
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  48. I understand the attraction of this philosophy but I think for us it's flawed. We have some very good players. Petracca, Gawn, May and Oliver are very top shelf, they have few equals in the AFL system. We have some good support players - Langdon, Lever, Viney, Salem and Fritsch would walk into any AFL team. Harmes, Brayshaw, Weideman and Tomlinson are good players. We have some very promising youth - Jackson, Pickett, Rivers and Petty will all be long term and good players. But from here we fall off the cliff. Our last 6 or 7 players just don't contribute enough. Players like H
    17 points
  49. If I divulge my source then they will never speak to me again. You only have to look who is in the leadership group to narrow the field. Clubs don’t match the offer because the RFA gets offered overs so and more than the Existing club is prepared to offer, the Crows matched the offer for Danger and then Geelong had to trade but Danger had compelling reasons to return to Geelong. I know it is a ruthless business but if a leader ask you if you are staying and how are you going and you say unequivocally Yes I am red & blue through and through, then you have to take them at their word, do
    17 points
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