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My views contrast with what I've read on here. I have little to no sympathy for Oliver. Clearly, he's an immature, boorish, and disrespectful fellow of the highest order. He's also done his best impersonation of Augustus Gloop over the off-season. I want the club's highest paid player, or close to it, performing on the field. In many games he's been an embarrassment. Every player gets cut some slack when going through tough times, even if it's self-inflicted. But that slack isn't open-ended. I can well understand the club trading him, or considering it, if defined markers aren't being met. Thankfully, it appears he's come a long way and heading in the right direction. But he's certainly not above performance scrutiny, especially with the contract he's on. And no, I'm not endorsing the grovelling Tom Morris. Hopefully, Oliver has a great summer and gets back to being the player we all know and he repays the club's faith. He's paid to perform, which is all that interests me.

Best player: Flower Most influential player: Barassi

Obviously the name has nothing to do with the losses. But I'll be pleased when this sort of utter tripe ends.

He looks as fat as a fool.

You wouldn't drop him, but he's a shadow of his former self. Well, not quite a shadow. He's doing his best impersonation of Augustus Gloop.

Had him in Fantasy last year. Needs to put on size, but very classy mover/left footer. Smooth.

What footy acumen you have, Turbo.

This isn't hyperbole, our midfield is one of the worst in the competition. What was once a strength is now a liability. Big time.

Exceptionally limited preseason. Selected to play AFL on the back of zero VFL form and lack of preparation. Head-scratching selection decision. Will turn it around.

Amusing. van Rooyen was drafted in 2021. His first year of football was playing VFL in 2022. His second year of footy was playing AFL in 2023, ie two years after he was drafted, yet it's counted in column ''1''. Larkey was drafted in 2016 and played just 2 games in 2017, while Allen was drafted in 2017 and played 2 games in 2018. Their only 2 games in their respective first years are correctly counted in column ''1'', ie one year after they were drafted, yet van Rooyen's zero games are not. van Rooyen's second year on a list are matched against Allen's and Larkey's first year on a list. If you can't see the discrepancy I'm not talented enough to educate you. Btw, I'm sure others in the stats provided are in the same boat as Allen and Larkey.

Your reply has zero to do with my post.

Your stats are misleading. You should have zero in van Rooyen's first year and 28 in his second. Larkey, Allen, and Naughton all played footy in their first year on a list, while van Rooyen didn't crack a game. Larkey and Allen played just 2 games, while Naughton played his entire first year as a key defender.

Billings has always been a terrible kick for goal.

Fitting and somewhat ironic. Viney's and Wines' first ever AFL games were against each other in round one 2013 at the 'G when Wines won the RS nomination and Melbourne were thrashed by 79 points.