Simon Goodwin on SEN (28/11/19)

[Demonland 65,653]

• Simon Goodwin on Melbourne's struggles this year: "We just weren't prepared for what the game was going to demand right through the summer for a variety of different reasons and from that we lost all our cohesion and ability to put a game style that was identifiable in place."
• Simon Goodwin: "You just try and work through (form slumps) methodically and keep people believing in the process and understanding you can work your way through it. Deep down you're thinking 'this is going to be hard' but internally you just want to get on the board."
• Simon Goodwin on Luke Jackson: "This kid is just a unique player, he's different to a modern-day ruckman but where the game is going, we don't see him as just a ruckman."
• Simon Goodwin on Luke Jackson: "We see him as a guy who can play forward and we see him as the first player who could potentially plays in the midfield at 200cm. He's just such a talent and a unique type of player for our game. It's too big of an opportunity to look past."
• Simon Goodwin on Harley Bennell: "We're really excited about Harley, he's certainly trying to turn his life around. He's 27 and he's still got a love of the game, he's emotional about where his footy has been and where he wants it to get too and he doesn't want to waste it."
• How further advanced are Melbourne compared to this time last year? Goodwin: "We've got nearly a full playing group out there training to a real high level which is completely different to this time last year. We didn't even have our players back right now (last year)."
• Goodwin on the potential of player challenging score reviews: "I think it's healthy and there's a lot of sports around the world where you can challenge umpires on a range of decisions. I think it's a good initiative and the players will welcome that."

[BW511 2,258]

Appears we will have a 200cm big-big bodied mid running round very soon

 

Also, haven't seen a pic of Gaz in a while, that was a surprise!

[ArtificialWisdom 3,886]

Imagining a centre bounce with Gawn, Jackson, Tomlinson and Oliver. Mightn't be very effective but would tower over any other midfield

[poita 3,638]

"We just weren't prepared for what the game was going to demand". 

That is inexcusable on so many levels.

[drdrake 3,043]

11 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Imagining a centre bounce with Gawn, Jackson, Tomlinson and Oliver. Mightn't be very effective but would tower over any other midfield

Maybe just add in Pickett to bring the height average down and add an element of a player that wants to hit players hard 

[Superunknown 3,353]

45 minutes ago, BW511 said:

Appears we will have a 200cm big-big bodied mid running round very soon

 

Also, haven't seen a pic of Gaz in a while, that was a surprise!

BIG BAD GARRY!

(Say in Ben and Holly's Little Kingdom Big Bad Barry voice. Gaz might have eaten a few of Mr Elf's boats)

[Red and Blue realist 2,026]

1 minute ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Imagining a centre bounce with Gawn, Jackson, Tomlinson and Oliver. Mightn't be very effective but would tower over any other midfield

The new center bounce game plan revolves around spiking the ball forward, volleyball style, until we get a player in the clear to have a shot on goal. instead of the average disposals per score of around 30 (not sure of the source), we're going to bring it down to less than 5, and really blow score sheets apart!

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

The fact he supports the players challenging score reviews says a lot.

[Cards13 9,117]

So there was a review?! 

[jnrmac 19,088]

32 minutes ago, poita said:

"We just weren't prepared for what the game was going to demand". 

That is inexcusable on so many levels.

This is what I find really hard to accept. We had enough experienced people at the club who repeatedly spoke about not getting carried away with a Prelim - they know there was work to be done. Goodwin even flagged it multiple times re the Hawthorn final and then inexplicably chose to not to sit down with the team and review the Prelim (his own words).

Richmond made the prelim under Frawley and didn't see finals for another 12 years. We aren't that team but I hope like hell Goodwin has looked inside himself to unlock the issues - even if he doesn't explain them publicly.

Re the draft they have gone bold which I don't mind. Jackson has plenty of upside and Pickett could be the most exciting player since Jurrah - x-factor we have been missing.

Lets go 2020.

 

[DubDee 20,874]

42 minutes ago, poita said:

"We just weren't prepared for what the game was going to demand". 

That is inexcusable on so many levels.

I assume he is trying to say - we couldn’t prepare for what the season was going to demand due to many factors out of our control

[monoccular 16,187]

“

• Simon Goodwin on Melbourne's struggles this year: "We just weren't prepared for what the game was going to demand right through the summer for a variety of different reasons and from that we lost allour cohesion and ability to put a game style that was identifiable in place."
• ”

Should a game style be identifiable (at least to those on the outside)?

The successes we had in 2018 were in great part due to chaos and unpredictability. 
 

If our plan is too identifiable then it is more easily countered.  

[Lord Nev 13,511]

1 hour ago, poita said:

"We just weren't prepared for what the game was going to demand". 

That is inexcusable on so many levels.

Think you've taken that the wrong way mate. Can see how that could happen when it's just in text form though.

 

[Undeeterred 2,865]

1 hour ago, poita said:

"We just weren't prepared for what the game was going to demand". 

That is inexcusable on so many levels.

Clearly talking about injuries, and not being able to get a core playing group together on a continuous basis to develop that cohesion further.

[Demon3 2,541]

I was pretty disappointed with the club this year like everyone, the coaches, the players the admin, it was just a very poor year full of amateur mistakes, wrong messaging, underwhelming leadership and quite frankly a rather sickening response to a poor exit coming off a good year.

So i applaud the changes, the desire to make amends and the fact we have not sat on our hands and just expected we will bounce back. Goodwin is a relatively young coach, and all coaches face challenges, he did this year and im sure he will have learnt a lot, Richo will be a great addition to teh club. The Recruiters have identified areas where we could be better and gone and got players, Jury is out on Jackson for me, but i will embrace it, i love teh selection of Pickett, its a need we have. 

Im now prepared to let the last 12 months go and throw my full support behind the club. The past is behind us and the future in front of us. Go Dees.

[Big Carl 333]

2 hours ago, poita said:

"We just weren't prepared for what the game was going to demand". 

That is inexcusable on so many levels.

Remind me again why he is the senior coach...

[Satyriconhome 9,986]

4 minutes ago, Big Carl said:

Remind me again why he is the senior coach...

Because he has a contract

Did you get to the interview stage in the selection process?

[dazzledavey36 48,913]

53 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Think you've taken that the wrong way mate. Can see how that could happen when it's just in text form though.

 

Poita taking it the wrong way?

Sure not.....

[Big Carl 333]

21 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Because he has a contract

Did you get to the interview stage in the selection process?

What a response!

[Gator 16,893]

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

I assume he is trying to say - we couldn’t prepare for what the season was going to demand due to many factors out of our control

Thank you.

For the dopes (and they are numerous) - Goodwin was referencing the operations and the fact that the entire midfield group had delayed/badly interrupted preseasons where they could barely do contesteted work before January (some February).

[Clintosaurus 6,534]

31 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Because he has a contract

Did you get to the interview stage in the selection process?

This is a magnificent post. A solid burn.

4 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Thank you.

For the dopes (and they are numerous) - Goodwin was referencing the operations and the fact that the entire midfield group had delayed/badly interrupted preseasons where they could barely do contesteted work before January (some February).

Exactly. Something the Eeyore brigade would not consider before potting everyone in the club, and other supporters.

[Demon17 4,606]

1 hour ago, Demon3 said:

I was pretty disappointed with the club this year like everyone, the coaches, the players the admin, it was just a very poor year full of amateur mistakes, wrong messaging, underwhelming leadership and quite frankly a rather sickening response to a poor exit coming off a good year.

So i applaud the changes, the desire to make amends and the fact we have not sat on our hands and just expected we will bounce back. Goodwin is a relatively young coach, and all coaches face challenges, he did this year and im sure he will have learnt a lot, Richo will be a great addition to teh club. The Recruiters have identified areas where we could be better and gone and got players, Jury is out on Jackson for me, but i will embrace it, i love teh selection of Pickett, its a need we have. 

Im now prepared to let the last 12 months go and throw my full support behind the club. The past is behind us and the future in front of us. Go Dees.

Great Post D3.

The summary of impacts of injuries etc after 2018 on 2019 at the recent forum was also illuminating and puts the 2019 in some sort of context. Josh Mahoney's stat of only 2 starting 22 player, (Gawn and Lewis completed 80% plus of preseason), whilst 10 best starting 22 completed 30% or less spoke volumes IMO.

nevertheless no excuses now for 2020 with whats going on at present training and recruiting - wise.

Likewise - Go Dees

[Engorged Onion 9,389]

3 hours ago, poita said:

"We just weren't prepared for what the game was going to demand". 

That is inexcusable on so many levels.

He didn't mean it from a 'how we prepared as a club perspective, we were blindsided due to strategy/tactics etc' - it was a reference to the context of where the playing group was at from a rehab perspective.

*apologies, my rage, didn't see that 48 other posters had written essentially the same thing...

Edited November 28, 2019 by Engorged Onion

[Engorged Onion 9,389]

3 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

The fact he supports the players challenging score reviews says a lot.

Que? What do you read from that statement @Clint Bizkit?

[Older demon 2,171]

My interest is his thinking of Jackson as a midfielder. There was lots os speculation when the Dogs went early with Bontempelli a 193 cm mid. It was a calculated risk which has paid off handsomely. From the limited highlights Jackson may well go the same way. Seriously athletic and hunts the ball.