POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 5

[Nasher 33,616]

1 minute ago, DominatrixTyson said:

Look, I agree. But to be harsh on him, he put himself in that position by diving at the ball with that hip and shoulder to the Tiger player. If that is how you initially got injured. He's a ruckmen, he does not need to dive in. We are an aggressive team, but that is just reckless given his limitations. 

I really struggle with that.  Doesn't need to dive in?  I expect all players in the side to dive in when the situation calls for it - ruckman, midfielder, forward pocket, everyone.  I doubt you'd have called it reckless if it had been Clarry - I can't see the difference.  He was the only player in position to impact that contest, so he did, and got hurt.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

4 minutes ago, Hell Bent said:

I'm as gutted as any of you but some of you are a disgrace!

2 men down for more than a half of footy on a wet night and you can't excuse them for running out of steam!

The whole structure was shot when Spencer went down.

Have a crack at the selection committee and fair enough too, but the players could not have given any more tonight!

Season over my arse, pull your heads in!

 

We have been making excuses for losing for a living for 53 years HB. Good teams find a way to finish, even under adversity.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,053]

We played the second half with half a bench. Ran out of steam and were overrun. I would have liked to see smarter football in the last,  but the reality is that they were cooked and Richmond ran them off their feet. 

[—coach— 3,496]

1 minute ago, DeeZee said:

We are a good contested ball side but butcher the ball way too many times.

In the end shot ourselves in a the foot yet again .

 Injuries don't help but dominating games for large periods and being unable to convert us our biggest worry.

Totally agree with this, we dominated them today for 2.5 quarters for little to show for it on the scoreboard.

[Bobby McKenzie 2,385]

20 minutes ago, GawnWithTheWind said:

I've loved this club for so long, but I can't do it anymore. Some clubs are just destined to suffer and we are that club.

Demons hey? You play far from that.

 

What a lot of crap! The boys tried their guts out all night and they did play like Demons. 

[BAMF 4,353]

4 minutes ago, Danelska said:

oh Jones over your 11 year career, you have been an outstanding player and perhaps within a better team, a genuine 'considered' super star amongst the media, can you please never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever [censored] up, as you are human.

Great player. Love him to bits and always will.

And yes. It was just one moment in the match, but it summed it up.

We were tired and out on our feet, but it shouldn't take any energy to give a word of encouragement and use your voice to position the troops at a stoppage.

Leadership has been a massive issue for over a decade now. I fear that Jones hasnt been able to learn from anyone over that time.

[chook fowler 19,459]

God it stinks following us.

[Dees2014 2,377]

2 minutes ago, Hell Bent said:

I'm as gutted as any of you but some of you are a disgrace!

2 men down for more than a half of footy on a wet night and you can't excuse them for running out of steam!

The whole structure was shot when Spencer went down.

Have a crack at the selection committee and fair enough too, but the players could not have given any more tonight!

Season over my arse, pull your heads in!

 

Yes, just the same as we played galently against Geelong. We were crueled by injury. I thought we fought it out very well tonight, and when we can get through a game normally we will be fine. The kicking seems to have improved (it would want to), but we will have a much better second half of the year than the first. And we will get max back for the last 8 games. The challenge is to keep in the game until then! It will be a challenge.

[KysaiahMessiah 725]

14 minutes ago, ding said:

lol my tips this year have been more accurate than anyone else on this site. Wrap yourself up in hope if you want, but if you want realistic forecasts then just follow me and learn.

The new self proclaimed demigod...plonker is very apt I would have thought

[defuture15 899]

Good to see Hibberd.

BOG in the first 3/4

[deelete my account 1,194]

8 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I really struggle with that.  Doesn't need to dive in?  I expect all players in the side to dive in when the situation calls for it - ruckman, midfielder, forward pocket, everyone.  I doubt you'd have called it reckless if it had been Clarry - I can't see the difference.  He was the only player in position to impact that contest, so he did, and got hurt.

A ruckman diving into a contest like a midfielder when he's realistically our sole ruckmen after losing Gawn, is just careless. He can play with some element of self preservation and still make just as much an impact, just don't dive down into an oncoming player, simple. I don't think it was a matter of bad luck that he got injured, he put his shoulder down into the impact of that contest. 

Edited April 24, 2017 by DominatrixTyson

[Bobby McKenzie 2,385]

4 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Riewoldt.

Gotta find the off switch when next we play.

 

We have on our last three meetings with the tigers.

[Redleg 40,925]

34 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Oh, Melbourne.

I could be angry, but I can't help but be proud.  2 men down for most of the night, one of them our ruckman (again) and we just didn't have it in us.

We can argue about skills on a slippery night, and a whole host of the usual, but while the loss cuts deep I can't help but be proud.  We were totally out on our legs and they ran over the top of us.  There was almost nothing we could do.

Chin up boys and bounce back next week.

Agree. We were out on our feet before three quarter time and don't lose the game until the last 4 minutes. Sensational effort Dees.

All the Watts knockers can get stuffed. Guy is busting his guts for us.

The better side lost, end of story.

[Roger Mellie 4,025]

Richmond took their opportunities in the forward line - we didn't

Richmond's back 6 held up - ours didn't.

That's pretty much it.

You can still factor in the injuries and that Richmond are still [censored], but if we'd capitalised on our forward play, the Toigs should've been out of it by half time. Just like the last 3 weeks.

Get well very soon Jake

[brendan 3,437]

IMO 1 of the best games I have seen him play on 1 leg after 15 minutes and showed enormous heart just to compete and still do some amazing things, that mark on the wing against rance was brilliant 

[Soidee 1,496]

30 minutes ago, SFebey said:

Season over, thanks to suspensions and injuries. Compared to dogs last year, we have no depth and most of our list is still B & C graders. No leadership, Jones isn't a captains ahole, Viney should not be captain. Brace effort tonight but damage done in previous weeks. Our young guns are carrying our leaders.

Yes this leadership situation is a farce at our club.  We have not got it right since McDonald was skipper.  Jones is a tough mid, but don't tell me he is a leader in a crisis, because he is NOT. As for Viney, that is looking like an absolute shocker of a decision.  

Yes we lost and we had injuries, but our rubbish leadership in the last 3 weeks has been deplorable. Get the leadership right and we move forward, Im sick of leaderless rubbish at this club.

[TGR 1,367]

On one leg tonight.  Showed mental toughness to stay on and contribute.

 

I can understand the hype about Trac...unlike the Hogan hype.  See him sook and stop after the umpire missed his free?

[Radar Detector 1,347]

15 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Why do we always have more that go up than stay down? I see it time and time again. Too many go up and don't win the ball, or at least kill the contest, then their numbers get the ball out the back. It's just stupid football.

Our player's are as dumb as batsh!t and our coaches are even worse for not realising this and corrected for it.

I love him but Jayden Hunt is a massive culprit of this.

[Bobby McKenzie 2,385]

8 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Riewoldt.

Gotta find the off switch when next we play.

 

We did on the last three meetings with Richmond.

[beelzebub 23,376]

4 minutes ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

We have on our last three meetings with the tigers.

Run through the shlt. Its not Science !!

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Our decision making from marks is still so bad.

JKH took a mark, was being held and tried to play on while still being held.

Madness.

Edited April 24, 2017 by Clint Bizkit

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

17 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Have another drink, Dan.

He was injured early, stuck it out and still gave us something.  Took some fantastic contested marks in the third term and was still able to contribute.

Yet another silly, panic button thread after a loss.

You can be a patronising [censored] @Wiseblood - I'm not worried about the loss - the game speaks volumes of were we are headed under Goodwin in a positive sense.  It's the demo landers perspective of Petracca and how he should 'tear a new one ' each and every game  - he won't because team defence has changed. 

[Deestar9 1,619]

Don't ...just don't put sh#%t on any player ...down by 2 at half time ..petracca in one leg :.. Nat jones not much better...lost by 2 goals ...longest injury list in AFL....I am completely gutted ...anywhere near our best 22 available & we are 5 zip ..,.dont pick our 20 yr old plus players to pieces !!!!!!

[ding 5,126]

3 minutes ago, Travis16 said:

The new self proclaimed demigod...plonker is very apt I would have thought

yeah i guess you are yet another lurker who only pots posts they dont like but never has the guts to predict who will win yeah?

16 would have to be your age im guessing.

mfc has so many supporters who cant see the forest for the trees. We will probably play finals next year, but you can forget this season as we just dont have the cattle yet.Or the heart. Heart matters much more than talent.

 

 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

1 minute ago, Danelska said:

You can be a patronising [censored] @Wiseblood - I'm not worried about the loss - the game speaks volumes of were we are headed under Goodwin in a positive sense.  It's the demo landers perspective of Petracca and how he should 'tear a new one ' each and every game  - he won't because team defence has changed. 

Only when I have to be, Dan.