Farewell Jack Watts

[jumbo returns 6,486]

21 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

Well that attempt at humour fell flat. 

Apologies....it wasn't a serious dig

Sorry SJ - crappy day

No hard feelings

Cheers

[Jack son 5 162]

7 minutes ago, the rolling fog said:

Mahoney pretty much confirmed that we're also paying part of Watts' salary 

Surely not true?

[Delusional demon 82 1,196]

Paid overs for Lever and cop unders for watts... hell , we’ll even paying some of his salary 

MFC best club to negotiate with since 1897

[FireInTheBennelly 4,024]

6 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

Mahoney just said it’s a possibility that we will PAY some of his salary. 

FMD THAT IS PATHETIC. 

 The MFC is absolutely useless. 

Wouldn't that be a yes or a no type situation? Trade is done, yet we don't know if we're paying some of his salary or not?

[DemonLad5 1,637]

38 minutes ago, ignition. said:

 

 

[chook fowler 18,217]

High risk strategy but you don't win premierships by playing it safe. I admire Jacks loyalty but it is hollow if not backed up by effort, application and commitment.

[Satyriconhome 9,982]

On 16/10/2017 at 3:51 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

32 years in the media Fault

i think stories are being with held

just a hunch

it’s too cold and calculated

The Russians?

[rolling fog 1,146]

2 minutes ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Wouldn't that be a yes or a no type situation? Trade is done, yet we don't know if we're paying some of his salary or not?

Mahoney said it's still to be worked out between MFC and Paul Connors

Read: we're paying part of his salary

[sue 8,418]

1 minute ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Wouldn't that be a yes or a no type situation? Trade is done, yet we don't know if we're paying some of his salary or not?

Of course.  So either Mahoney was just too embarrassed to say we were paying or there is something else in the wings, eg. we will pay some if Port gives us something else but  it's not yet agreed. God knows what they could give us.

[McQueen 17,862]

1 hour ago, Mazer Rackham said:

 

It's not just about Watts. He's the lightning rod. But there's more at play.

Goodwin is making a statement. And it is not "if we can only get rid of Watts, we'll be a finals winning side".

You can bet your behind that this is not the only aspect of his stand.

This is only part of it. He will having quiet words to Gawn, Bugg, Kent, probably Jesse in the pre season when 2017 is behind him, and others. Assuming they don't get the message anyway.

It's about setting standards that cannot be dodged or done in a half @rsed fashion.

If he got rid of Kent, would everyone get the message? Maybe, maybe not.

But he's gotten rid of Watts. Is anyone in any doubt at all of his determination to succeed?

Go Goody.

Go Demons.

Imagine how good it’d be if the entire playing group had as much desire to win a premiership like the coach has?

[DemonOX 8,530]

5 minutes ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Wouldn't that be a yes or a no type situation? Trade is done, yet we don't know if we're paying some of his salary or not?

He was skirting the issue when asked by the ox. 

[64" 97]

That is a [censored] deal if we are paying out some of his salary and pick 31.

[daisycutter 28,486]

Just now, DemonOX said:

He was skirting the issue when asked by the ox. 

yep. port offered him <500k. mfc and connors to meet to see if difference paid in lump or instalments

btw 500k = 416k pre cba. avg post cba contract said to be in low 300s.

[Beetle 4,280]

24 minutes ago, DemonDaniel said:

I just broke the news to my little fella, he's gone all quiet reflecting on his favourite player, 'carn' Wattsy!' he'd call out in his loudest voice every week. Really lamenting the fact I just got a number 4 pressed into his footy jumper  Xmas present now. 

Easy fix mate, just stick a poster of Peter Giles on his wall and within a couple of weeks you'll be right.

[Maldonboy38 5,849]

Thanks Jack, for everything you gave over your 9 years.  Sorry we stuffed up your development, and sorry we made such a media circus of you in your early years. Your best was breath-taking.  Vision, beautiful kick, brought others into the game. 

I think you will be mostly missed around the Club. From all reports, your people skills and club-heart made a lot of people want to be around you. 

But is was time to go. The desperation we needed you to show only peeked out at certain times and became a major frustration for coaches, supporters and team mates. You did learn to tackle, but never developed the pack mark that you were recruited for. But our delivery into forward 50 now looks very thin without you here. 

I hope you have success at PA, but not too much. 

Pick 31 sounds about right, and if we have to pay a bit of salary, I don't really care.

[Cheap Seats 3,300]

1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

yep. port offered him <500k. mfc and connors to meet to see if difference paid in lump or instalments

btw 500k = 416k pre cba. avg post cba contract said to be in low 300s.

Wow, so port only offered half his salary.

Pick 31 is overs by the sound of that.

[Cards13 9,117]

1 hour ago, The Stigga said:

I don't think Geelong were interested at all.

 

They just pushed up his trade value, thanks Cats!!

[Jibroni 4,043]

Cant believe he is gone. I know Jack hasnt been perfect but for Pick 31?  At his best he is easily in our Top 10.

My questions to Goody would be:

1. Why have you been unable to get the best out of him in the first place?

2. What was wrong with his form prior to his mid season injury?

I wish you all the best Jack. The last nine years have probably been hell for you and hope Port recognise what you are capable of. PS: If you need a guide to getting around Adelaide dont hesitate to ask

 

Edited October 17, 2017 by Jibroni

[Sargent Shultz 259]

Watts all the fuss about? Pick 31 is a ripper. From 2004 to 2013 here is the stellar line up of pick 31's:

Jarrad Moore 68 games no longer playing

Trent West 70 games no longer playing

Clayton Collard 1 game no longer playing

John Mcarthy 39 games no longer playing

Jordan Roughead 126 games still playing

Jason Tuff 4o games no longer playing

Ariel Steinberg 10 games no longer playing 

Jackson Mcarit 54 games no longer playing

Kamdyn Mcintosh 53 games still playing

Malcolm Karpanny 7 games no longer playing

Conclusion: Jack Watts may have had his flawed, but really do you really want to trade him for a Clayton Collard?

But then again......

[Mach5 4,482]

This is out of hand - can everybody just stop posting already??!

I've only read up to page 53 and I'll never catch up at this rate...

Pretty content with this trade. Wasn't for it initially, but I simply can't understand those that are dead against it. He's given us very little over the journey and it doesn't look like changing much.

The only thing I can think of, is that some are worried that he'll go to Port and turn it around, proving beyond doubt that we aren't up to developing talent. This will not be the case.

He'll probably only play 6 games for Port and go the way of Sylvia.

[dazzledavey36 48,711]

All the best Jack.. thank ypu for fronting up with a smile during the dark days when the world was against you.

I still feel very disappointed about this.

[pinkshark 935]

Jack Watts sent packing!  for Pick 31.  F me!

At the start of the year I said to a mate that the worst thing that can happen this year is that Collingwood will knock us out of the eight in the final round  and both Howe and Dunn will be playing.  The next worse thing I said would be that Watts (because Goodwin and he wont work)would be dealt at seasons end.  So all in all, the end of my footy season has been gut wrenching.  

This will [censored] me for many years.  In the same way it would [censored] me if I lost a good watch.  Or accidently run over my trusty, loyal, resilient dog.  The only medicine that will heal will be a premiership before Port Power.  So get cracking all you coaching staff and FD gurus who don't see Jack Watts as an important asset to a footy team, make me believe.  

Come on Melbourne!  

 

 

 

 

[Lord Travis 10,163]

Hang on, we took unders in pick 31 AND we're still paying part of his salary? MFC have unarguably [censored] this up. What a let down, but at the same time I'm not surprised at all having followed this lowly club for decades of failure now

[Ned 156]

Sad day for me. Feel  like we  let down Grimes, Trengove and Watts badly. For  all his flaws, I just wanted to see Melbourne and Jack finally succeed and I felt sure it would happen. Good luck to him at  Port. 

[McQueen 17,862]

1 minute ago, Mach5 said:

This is out of hand - can everybody just stop posting already??!

I've only read up to page 53 and I'll never catch up at this rate...

Pretty content with this trade. Wasn't for it initially, but I simply can't understand those that are dead against it. He's given us very little over the journey and it doesn't look like changing much.

The only thing I can think of, is that some are worried that he'll go to Port and turn it around, proving beyond doubt that we aren't up to developing talent. This will not be the case.

He'll probably only play 6 games for Port and go the way of Sylvia.

Good post right up until the last sentence.

I think he’ll apply himself adequately for Port and play most games. Impact-wise, about the same as MFC.