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Thanks for your take Mo but 0.7 goals per game, eg. 1 goal in 7 games out of 10 makes it close to a goal a game in my mind. 

If you don't agree that's ok with me. Thanks for sharing your mathematical philosohies and I am glad I made you laugh. 

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Billings reminds me of Jack Watts - talent to burn, smooth mover but sometimes lacking in intensity.

If he comes cheap then I’d take him.  He has many of the attributes that our list is lacking.

 

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Not sure we need him. Too many small forwards already and he’s not in our midfield needs. Lots of wing types with Lingers, Hunter, Woey jnr and Howes already.  Plus look at add two young classy mids in Mckercher/Sanders and Wilson/Windsor.  Billings likely consume salary cap $$$s. Best offer is a future 4th rounder and Saints min 1/3rd of his wage for next 2 years on contract.  BTW I remain in the “no” vote for Billings. 
 

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7 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Not sure we need him. Too many small forwards already and he’s not in our midfield needs. Lots of wing types with Lingers, Hunter, Woey jnr and Howes already.  Plus look at add two young classy mids in Mckercher/Sanders and Wilson/Windsor.  Billings likely consume salary cap $$$s. Best offer is a future 4th rounder and Saints min 1/3rd of his wage for next 2 years on contract.  BTW I remain in the “no” vote for Billings. 
 

Not sure we even have a list spot and I would agree a no from me. I would rather give more game time to Woey and try Howes and even AMW.

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21 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Billings reminds me of Jack Watts - talent to burn, smooth mover but sometimes lacking in intensity.

If he comes cheap then I’d take him.  He has many of the attributes that our list is lacking.

 

When he finally did move, it really looked for a very short period like Wattsy could've finally put it all together at Port before injuries struck. 

Would love to draft an 18 year old Jack Watts (or Jack Billings for that matter) into our current development set up.

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It's probably already been posted, but this is a good article on Jack - why he hasn't been chased harder during the trade period, and also does a deep drive into his performance to date.

https://www.zerohanger.com/why-arent-clubs-chasing-jack-billings-stkilda-saints-afl-trade-period-144137/

In the article, it's mentioned that he's clearly talented, but seems to have regressed and has definitely failed to live up to the hype.  Lots of the chat here reminded me of one of our most famous 'never-met-potential' Jacks. 

BUT - it is also mentioned that he has been a little unlucky with injuries, 3 coaches and a lack of certainty about club direction, where he plays. So he would benefit from clearer positioning/role and some luck with injuries etc.

He's on approx $500k, contracted for the next 2 years.

I guess the question is do we need another small/medium half forward??? Who goes out? 

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I know this occurred back in 2017 but how many other current players aside from Billings have joined the 30 + possession/ 5 goal club in a game? He also scored 162 dream team points which is absurd.

I'm not advocating that he joins us on the back of one game 6 years ago against a poor Carlton, but it speaks volumes of the talent that is there.

If we get him, hopefully he'll provide a solid Lachie Hunter style 20+ games. We couldn't realistically ask for more.

  

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13 minutes ago, Red But Mostly Blue said:

It's probably already been posted, but this is a good article on Jack - why he hasn't been chased harder during the trade period, and also does a deep drive into his performance to date.

https://www.zerohanger.com/why-arent-clubs-chasing-jack-billings-stkilda-saints-afl-trade-period-144137/

In the article, it's mentioned that he's clearly talented, but seems to have regressed and has definitely failed to live up to the hype.  Lots of the chat here reminded me of one of our most famous 'never-met-potential' Jacks. 

BUT - it is also mentioned that he has been a little unlucky with injuries, 3 coaches and a lack of certainty about club direction, where he plays. So he would benefit from clearer positioning/role and some luck with injuries etc.

He's on approx $500k, contracted for the next 2 years.

I guess the question is do we need another small/medium half forward??? Who goes out? 

Chandler, plus the other player I'm loathe to mention coz everyone will come after me!

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5 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I know this occurred back in 2017 but how many other current players aside from Billings have joined the 30 + possession/ 5 goal club in a game? He also scored 162 dream team points which is absurd.

I'm not advocating that he joins us on the back of one game 6 years ago against a poor Carlton, but it speaks volumes of the talent that is there.

If we get him, hopefully he'll provide a solid Lachie Hunter style 20+ games. We couldn't realistically ask for more.

  

Fair enough but we need competitive beasts. I’ve spent 50 years of my footy Demon viewing past watching Melbourne footballers with talent. Jack Watts was just another one although the unfair weight of expectation on his thin shoulders did not help. We need elite players that have pace, skills and tackle like there are no tomorrows. Just use Collingwood as the template.

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59 minutes ago, BW511 said:

At the very least, he offers something a little different

So would I but I'm 100% sure I wouldn't get a kick and would be subbed off before quarter time due to lack of fitness 

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I'm a Yes because I've been vocal on our need for depth with AFL experience. I think he'd provide good cover around the midfield, wings or half forward. Similiar to the Hunter pickup but probably with more upside/time on his hands? 

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Moneyball option as depth. Has skill but has struggled to get on park and probably down on confidence.

If reports are true that he has 2 years left on 500K a year and Saints are willing to cover part of contract then he could be a low cost depth option as mid/half forward type.  

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1 hour ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Billings reminds me of Jack Watts - talent to burn, smooth mover but sometimes lacking in intensity.

If he comes cheap then I’d take him.  He has many of the attributes that our list is lacking.

 

There would be a certain level of irony in trading in a player with similar attributes to Wattsy.

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