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Langford makes some mistakes, but a few of them were in service of the game plan hitting up the corridor / 3 qtr kick - I'd rather see him make this mistake at this stage. He had a couple of very important defensive involvements when he was almost last man, and I watched him work up the ground to get involved in the play afterwards. Has quite a tank. He's not the prettiest player - Lindsay is an easier watch, but takes fewer risks. When Harvey he is involved we look a better team imo and he has an air of unpredictability to him.

He always does that. Hams it up - has a rep for it. Players have spoken about it in the past. Re. JVR - what people are missing is he often looked his best as 2nd banana with petty or brown or another taking kpd #1. He's not at the level to take the best defender - doesn't have the skills or the strength yet. He will look more like the JVR we know as a 2nd forward and will at some point come back into the team in this capacity.

Koz...

It's not hard to understand ...he plays for himself. Culture killer. The best clubs understand that a team is a mix of people and personalities as much as football or positional abilities. The pies are very strong and well run club and have a bold FD that act on what they are seeing. He's been OK at the Hawks in a team they were trying to inject personality into. Now they're getting serious he'll fall by the wayside.

The reason North looked amazing against us is that we apply absolutely zero pressure. No physicality, no desire from us since round 1. All Carlton had to do today was be a little harder...put a few goals on north and their very attacking mids drop their heads. They don't work two ways. We didn't even try to test them - we are so so so slow, lethargic, one dimensional and gassed that it genuinely provides energy to the other team

Oh?

Some of the guests he has on are reasonable but I find him completely melodramatic and frankly damaging to the club's brand. Reminds me a lot of the blues supporter podcasts/twitter accounts/channels. All incredibly dramatic, up and down, entitled, and damage the perception of their club. Not all publicity is good publicity. We all hate the filth but the perks of having a 90 IQ average supporter base is they are loyal to a fault. They cheer when they are losing, they back their people in when things are bad and don't drag the place down. I am aware of the slight hypocrisy in this post.

Rare to see so many of us in violent agreement. Says a lot.

I think it is time - but who are we left with? Chaplin? He's in charge of the fwd line.... Jones? Too new Bassett? Maybe but has a bit of a topsy turvy record with people. Richo and choco won't do it...the fact they are presiding over this mess says enough. It's going to get worse...much worse, before it gets better. Roos understood he had to make a list and cultural change. That now needs to happen again. We will lose many fan favourites. Goodwin our 'premiership coach's on paper only. Roos, Jackson, Viney, Mahoney the real legacy and the ones who actually turned the place around.

Burgess the secret weapon. Adelaide totally transformed, they remind me of us in 21

Those saying 'of course he won't stand aside, it's his job and his income'....that's literally what the best leaders do. Longmire did it..Roos did it. Plenty of other examples. Happens in large organisations all the time.....you think the CEOs on several mil and huge influence find it easy to walk away? Of course they dont....but most are very well resourced and connected anyway and certainly land on their feet. AFL coaches are the same.... The other piece though is the best leaders walk away on their own accord....only when they know it is the best thing for the organisation. That is - there are leaders who are ready to replace them and reshape things. I'm not sure Goodwin would have tremendous faith that a standin president, absent CEO, and new group of coaches would do any better or be more stabilising than he is. Richardson doesn't inspire confidence in anyone either.

What happened? All the earlier names you mentioned were long term lures by Mahoney and Todd Viney. All those since the flag are Tim Lamb.

Should have moved on to Yze when we had the chance.

Is this honestly new news to you? At what point during Oliver's adventures down the well, Petracca's brand-driven off season episode, Viney's drawn out contract negotiation or May's latest pub scuffle were you convinced our leaders were acting in the best interest of the team?

I perhaps wasn't as strong calling for Goodwin out in 22 but I flagged a lot of issues at the time too and got my head chopped off. Wasn't hard to see if you really looked.