Post Match Discussion - Round 23

[leave it to deever 17,511]

Just now, Danelska said:

Whilst emotions are high... 

Who should we get rid of?

Max gawn

[P-man 13,366]

We probably will get brutalised but I'd still much rather make it than not. All good experience.

My longstanding concerns about McDonald being a liability in a finals type game were horribly realised today. Although the umps definitely don't like him much. And his whinging put them even more offside.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,860]

Disgusting performance.

But the irony is we're actually better off finishing 8th (should Adelaide help us out tomoz). Much rather play Port than Sydney. For some reason we play like men possessed at Adelaide Oval.

Ofcourse it will be a moot point if WC win by 3 goals +.

[Bitter but optimistic 22,242]

3 minutes ago, Nasher said:

We don't deserve finals any more or less than we did before this game. All the teams in the bottom end of the 8 and below are there because they've dropped games.

This result is gut wrenching and a total disaster, but let's be careful not to extrapolate that in to the season being a disaster. It hasn't been.

Disagree Gnasher. If an effort like today is the culmination of our season then it has been a disaster.

Same [censored] as the final two rounds last year.

We promise but we don't deliver.

[monoccular 17,432]

14 minutes ago, Chook said:

Bitterly disappointing. The equation is now this. Essendon lose, or West Coast lose/win by less than 4 goals and we're in.

Crazy to say that this team is still a pretty good chance to make the finals after today's display…but that's footy.

Save us the agony ?

11 minutes ago, gregdemon said:

shocker of a day   could have been much worse.  Brown said Eagles would have to win by around 25 pts against Adelaide to tip us out.

If we make it a weeks rest will be good   .  6 day break today  and IT   showed.    

hogan may be right by then

 

OMG you must be about the only optimist on this site.

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,508]

That loss hits pretty hard. As terribly as we played and as undeserved as it would have been, we still should have won it in the last.  

I think we'll still make the finals, but what should have been an exciting and celebratory two weeks, now feels a little flat and empty.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,235]

2 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

All we can do now is barrack for the Crows

Is there any point? 

[Return to Glory 8,443]

5 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

There is no way Eagles will lose at home.

Unlike us they want to play finals and crows can drop a game and still be on top.

12 wins is better than last year.

IM going to wait until we are 20 goals up in the last quarter of a gf b4 I get confident again.

Enjoy your retirement Bucks.

 

So you intend to live until 504

[Chook 15,013]

11 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Couldn't stick a tackle. Fumbles galore.

I think objectively we were okay for three quarters, but after the game was bloody nearly put out of reach.

Gosh that was a deflating performance.  I try very hard not to take losses to heart, but by golly I'm going to struggle not to feel filthy for the rest of the weekend.

Gee-willikers you must be disappointed. This is the closest I've ever seen you come to cursing!

[whatwhat say what 22,783]

That was utterly pathetic

[Nasher 33,616]

1 minute ago, Jaded said:

Not making finals this year or making it by 0.01% on the back of another team's failure is a failed season. 

11 years. Now make it 12. 

The club earmarked finals. The club pretty much failed. 

Would it be a raving success if we'd won by a point and parked ourself in 7th? You can't let one game define the colour of the whole season. Well, you can, free country! But I won't.

I hope nobody interprets this as ambivalence, disinterested or acceptance of a craphouse performance. It's not. I'm bloody spewing. Just being careful not to let my emotions drive me to false conclusions.

[brendan 3,437]

4 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

All we can do now is barrack for the Crows

I'm barracking for the eagles tommorow because [censored] Melbourne don't deserve finals 

[Nasher 33,616]

1 minute ago, Chook said:

Gee-willikers you must be disappointed. This is the closest I've ever seen you come to cursing!

It's forum leadership, that's all. I swear like a sailor in person.

[leave it to deever 17,511]

Just now, Return to Glory said:

So you intend to live until 504

Thanks RTG I really needed a laugh.

[At the break of Gawn 4,460]

Adelaide will win. Don't worry

[watchtheeyes 1,420]

If we make finals, we deserve finals. This whole 'we don't deserve to be in finals' is crap.

Are we ready for finals? No way..

[The Swimming Dee 1,904]

1 minute ago, brendan said:

I'm barracking for the eagles tommorow because [censored] Melbourne don't deserve finals 

Jog off then mate

[leucopogon 1,519]

Eagles will win, sure as the sunset.

[watchtheeyes 1,420]

So how many points do coast need to win by?

[Pates 9,660]

Going to respond to a reply from @Rodney (Balls) Grinter

   16 minutes ago,  Pates said: 

I'd say TMac's had a mostly good year but he did two things today that could be crucial for costing us finals. That VFA level kick out, and choosing to pass it off when he had a kick from 48m out. 

He's a dumb footballer, simple as that. 

What a load of BS.

Was Tom Mc Donald solely responsable for our whole first Qtr?  That's where the game was lost.

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I agree first quarter was of course where the game was lost. But the game was in the balance at the end, we had the opportunity to come back from it or at the very least mitigate the %. He's a leader, hell he was temporary captain, he had the chance to take a kick from 48-50m out directly in front and chose to kick it to a 3 on one. 

 

This was not long after he butchered a kick out that went straight to Cox, who he proceeded to get stuck into. How about worrying about your own game Tom?

 

Perhaps unfair to say "he cost us blah, blah, blah" but FMD dead he was disgraceful with those 2 efforts (plus embarrassingly getting into Cox). 

Edited August 26, 2017 by Pates

[Wiseblood 24,637]

1 minute ago, brendan said:

I'm barracking for the eagles tommorow because [censored] Melbourne don't deserve finals 

Overly emotional post of the year.  Well done.

1 minute ago, watchtheeyes said:

If we make finals, we deserve finals. This whole 'we don't deserve to be in finals' is crap.

Are we ready for finals? No way..

This.  The experience, if we still make it, will be invaluable no matter who we play.

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,842]

17 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Quick look at the stats suggests you are not wrong there, GC.

It also looks as though we had more than our share of the ball AND more inside 50s, yet we couldn't put a score on the board as well as the Pies did.  Did Hogan's injury hurt, or not really change a thing?

Eating my words a bit here, this was a game we could have and should have won...but didn't.  BUT for all their bragging rights today, we are still 'currently' in finals.  Collingwood have fallen way short over the journey.  West Coast still need to win and win reasonably well tomorrow against the Crows to knock us out.

[Monocology 1,109]

I've gotten used to our sleepwalker first halves but the horrendous skill level was something else today. Holding the door open for Esyringe & West Coke.

[waynewussell 5,768]

Time to name names... who wasn't up to it?

2 ordinary

10 didn't contribute

11 ordinary

12 struggled

19 outplayed

25 uninspiring

28 pretender

43 didn't contribute

 

[RalphiusMaximus 6,076]

8 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

The umpiring was reprehensible. Baffling call after baffling call. How was that a free against Pedersen after he got a clean handball away?? Ridiculous

5 frees to 0 in the first quarter to help the Pies build that match-winning lead.  Some absolutely baffling non-calls that could have helped us get back into it.  That being said, we were pathetic in the first and deserved to be well down. 

21 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

For those who watched the game - what was the problem today?  Did we look nervous early and couldn't claw our way back in?  Or did the Pies simply want it more?

It's our forward 50 entries.  You can talk about the poor first quarter or the fact that Collingwood tackled more and we hardly tackled at all, but ultimately we had every opportunity to win this even with the [censored]-poor first quarter, the umpiring and the lack of effort.  Where we lost this game is exactly the same place we've lost most of our games.  We get into a good attacking position, then butcher the forward 50 entry and stand there scratching our collective head as the opposition run the ball back down the ground.  Chaplin has been a liability all season and I can't see any evidence that he's learning from his failures.