PREGAME: Rd 16 vs GWS

[titan_uranus 22,576]

1 hour ago, praha said:

Oliver has gone from "He is well ahead of schedule and ready to return" to "Oops actually no he has a blister" to "His hamstring is still cooked."

This has the makings of "He's having surgery and will miss the rest of the season" all over it.

Or you could just accept that the hospitalisation set him back a few weeks. 

It sucks but the hysteria around his injury has been off the charts. 

[Soidee 1,496]

On 6/22/2023 at 7:23 PM, Tom Dyson said:

Out: Petty, Spargo, Chandler, ANB  

In: Tomlinson, Woewodin, Harmes, Laurie 

Angus, Lingers, Kozzy all had bad games and have been off their best, lingers in particular for a while. 

So tired of us picking blokes on reputation over an actual performance given to the coaches, dropping Tomlinson has proved to be an absolute shocker as most of us thought it was. For Petty to stroll back in and serve that up was horrendous. 

We are still picking premiership players who have not played a good game for weeks.  Flashy cameos can't be rewarded every week.  Goodwin is stubborn and rewarding guys who are out of form. 

[beelzebub 22,244]

37 minutes ago, Soidee said:

We are still picking premiership players who have not played a good game for weeks.  Flashy cameos can't be rewarded every week.  Goodwin is stubborn and rewarding guys who are out of form. 

Time...and timely to evolve ??

 

[deejammin' 2,076]

In:

Bowey, Tomlinson

Out:

Hibbo(kidney, ouch) Jordan Spargo(sub)

 

Petty forward, Brayshaw rotating through the middle/wing, Tommo back to full back, never should’ve been dropped. JUST WIN FFS!!

[WERRIDEE 5,218]

B: Lever, May, McVee

HB: Salem, Petty, Rivers

C: Hunter, Petracca, Langdon

HF: Pickett, van Rooyen, Neal-Bullen

F: Fritsch, Brown, Melksham

FOLL: Gawn, Brayshaw, Viney

IC: Bowey, Grundy, Sparrow, Woewodin

SUB: Harmes

Petty was practicing in the backline so Tomlinson won't come in.

IN: Brown, Melksham, Bowey, Woewodin, Harmes as sub.

OUT: Jordon, Hibberd, Chandler, Smith, Spargo.

[Gawndy the Great 7,623]

58 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Or you could just accept that the hospitalisation set him back a few weeks. 

It sucks but the hysteria around his injury has been off the charts. 

By the way Richo talked about it, there were still some signals in his scan. I’m not sure what that means in terms of recovery, but if he is still sore , than I agree it maybe another couple. 

[Neitas bump 141]

It sounds like a central tendon injury. These can take much longer to rehab. 

Slow heavy load that progresses slowly to faster movements. It is very individual in healing time. With load progression measured by the medical team

The week in hospital would of made his hamstring worse because he was not able to load the tendon during this time. Tendons love appropriate load. No load actually makes them worse.

We are doing the right thing, we need Oliver in September and there is no point getting him back when he is not ready.

[Gawndy the Great 7,623]

20 minutes ago, Neitas bump said:

It sounds like a central tendon injury. These can take much longer to rehab. 

Slow heavy load that progresses slowly to faster movements. It is very individual in healing time. With load progression measured by the medical team

The week in hospital would of made his hamstring worse because he was not able to load the tendon during this time. Tendons love appropriate load. No load actually makes them worse.

We are doing the right thing, we need Oliver in September and there is no point getting him back when he is not ready.

Didn’t they say it was muscle belly not tendon though? What you say does make sense though.

[Bay Riffin 1,420]

On 6/24/2023 at 7:08 PM, —coach— said:

Was listening to ABC radio today and BBBs manager was on talking footy with the ABC commentary team. He was discussing Melbourne and he said he can’t understand why we aren’t playing BBB at the moment.

Maybe he should watch his client play. Up untill last weekend Brown has not warranted a promotion to the ones. 

[Neitas bump 141]

6 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Didn’t they say it was muscle belly not tendon though? What you say does make sense though.

Central tendons run through the belly of the muscle. 

"

The central tendons of the hamstrings run from the ischial tuberosity to different insertion sites medially (the semimembranosus and semitendinosus muscles) and laterally (the biceps femoris [BF] muscle) around the knee joint".

[Engorged Onion 9,392]

1 minute ago, Neitas bump said:

Central tendons run through the belly of the muscle. 

"

The central tendons of the hamstrings run from the ischial tuberosity to different insertion sites medially (the semimembranosus and semitendinosus muscles) and laterally (the biceps femoris [BF] muscle) around the knee joint".

[Neitas bump 141]

2 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

[beelzebub 22,244]

Biceps in legs....learn something every day 

[CHF 2,607]

I do hope that we get back to basics at the selection table this week.

My team for the Alice match below.

B:     Bowey         May         Lever

HB:   Salem         Petty/Tomlinson        McVee

C:     Langdon     Viney       Hunter

HF:   ANB            Petty/Brown    Pickett

F:      Fritsch      Van Rooyen        Grundy

R:      Gawn      Petracca       Sparrow

Int:    Rivers       Laurie      Jordon     Brayshaw

Sub:  Melksham

 

[Brownie 5,367]

54 minutes ago, Bay Riffin said:

Maybe he should watch his client play. Up untill last weekend Brown has not warranted a promotion to the ones. 

I missed Casey's last match against the cats but I've watched the same general level of dysfunction in delivery and lead ups in our f50.

Not sure BBB will make a huge difference anyway.

Hope I'm proven wrong

[DubDee 20,950]

27 minutes ago, CHF said:

I do hope that we get back to basics at the selection table this week.

My team for the Alice match below.

B:     Bowey         May         Lever

HB:   Salem         Petty/Tomlinson        McVee

C:     Langdon     Viney       Hunter

HF:   ANB            Petty/Brown    Pickett

F:      Fritsch      Van Rooyen        Grundy

R:      Gawn      Petracca       Sparrow

Int:    Rivers       Laurie      Jordon     Brayshaw

Sub:  Melksham

 

so one of Tomo/Brown plus Laurie and bowie in for who?

[COOLX 142]

We don't seem to have enough quality mids, once we lose for example Oliver we seem to struggle , We did beat the pies and yes they were due for a loss. T.Mac was out for a long time last year and we suffered dearly. Tomlinson could via Casey be tried forward along with Turner. This year again we have no T.Mac however Petty may end up a good replacement. Schache could also be tried as a "swingman" in the reserves. We should try to turn Rivers into a midfielder earlier. Dropping an in form player in Tomlinson does not make sense , in fact it is dumb coaching and this not the first time Goody and co. have done. We also has an inability to play wet weather football. Too many problems to overcome.

[Dingo 825]

Rain on the way to Alice - could be a very wet game.

[Demonsone 1,617]

On 6/23/2023 at 12:23 PM, Flower Magic said:

 

[CHF 2,607]

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

so one of Tomo/Brown plus Laurie and bowie in for who?

Brown in for Smith

Bowey in for Hibberd

Laurie in for Chandler

Jordon in for Spargo

and

Melksham in as sub

[goodwindees 2,119]

On 6/24/2023 at 10:04 AM, Flower Magic said:

Please explain the difference between starting a new player on the interchange bench as opposed to the sub. And why would there be "reluctance"?

A player named on the interchange is a fully participating player. He is usually in the game within the first 6 minutes and usually all interchange players get as many minutes on ground across the entire game as players who just happened to start the game on the field. 
The enormous difference between an interchange player and a Sub, is that a Sub might never get to participate in the game and simply sit on the rear bench all game, eg, James Jordan in the Premiership team. 
What an incredible anti climax it would be to name a first gamer as a Sub, and he never get to take the tracksuit off. 

[Beetle 4,317]

1 hour ago, COOLX said:

We don't seem to have enough quality mids, once we lose for example Oliver we seem to struggle ,

Our first pick this year (Dockers first rounder) needs to be a quality inside bull for this reason. 
 

Give me mids for our first three picks please. But at least one has to be an inside ball winning beast. 

[whatwhat say what 19,234]

7 minutes ago, Beetle said:

Our first pick this year (Dockers first rounder) needs to be a quality inside bull for this reason. 
 

Give me mids for our first three picks please. But at least one has to be an inside ball winning beast. 

give me an inside / outside gun

reid would be ideal

[buck_nekkid 5,512]

Last year,as I recall, Paddy O’Dangerfield was injured, then kept out of the competition for a few weeks doing a mini preseason to get in him in outstanding form for the later rounds.  This seems to be where Clarry is headed - hitting fitness and speed targets (assume KMs as well) to then come back in Cherry Ripe.  If it was round 20, I reckon he would be coming back in at 80% and play into the finals.  We are doing OK (I think top 4 isn’t too bad, is it?) so knowing we can build Oliver into his very best form and fitness is really a luxury.  Her has no chance at any individual honours being out for so long, so what is a few extra weeks to him???

[layzie 29,139]

12 hours ago, Neitas bump said:

It sounds like a central tendon injury. These can take much longer to rehab. 

Slow heavy load that progresses slowly to faster movements. It is very individual in healing time. With load progression measured by the medical team

The week in hospital would of made his hamstring worse because he was not able to load the tendon during this time. Tendons love appropriate load. No load actually makes them worse.

We are doing the right thing, we need Oliver in September and there is no point getting him back when he is not ready.

This guy gets it and is onto something!

What did you say your name was again? 🙂