POSTGAME: Rd 03 vs Essendon

[Cards13 9,117]

3 minutes ago, binman said:

That's probably a bit unfair on the statisticians. 

They no doubt do lots more than just provide data to the fitness and coaching teams.

For example, they have to find a way to measure and record team specific kpis set by the coaches (eg role specific data) and build and maintain the data system 

Important role.

I hope you face palmed that blokes comment!

[WalkingCivilWar 31,447]

I tested positive for covid today. Bright side: I would’ve had it Friday night and I was sitting at the match surrounded predominantly by Essendon supporters. 😆

[binman 38,019]

1 hour ago, Cards13 said:

I hope you face palmed that blokes comment!

I know. 

I put him on ignore instead.

[#11-TonyAnderson 696]

Fantastic weekend, Dees win all three, and Collingwood and Essendon lost - doesn't get any better!

[Cards13 9,117]

19 minutes ago, binman said:

I know. 

I put him on ignore instead.

About time too, whatever you do, don’t listen to his podcast!!

Edited April 3, 2022 by Cards13

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Gee its good to look at that ladder and see Bummers deadset bottom on zero wins !!

Happy happy joy joy !

Cant wait to play the Boos later......bring it.

Edited April 3, 2022 by Wadda We Sing

[Lord Nev 13,511]

@picket fence

 

[Longsufferingnomore 1,463]

3 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I tested positive for covid today. Bright side: I would’ve had it Friday night and I was sitting at the match surrounded predominantly by Essendon supporters. 😆

Your generosity shows no bounds😈

Hope it is only mild!

[DeeZone 7,711]

16 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I tested positive for covid today. Bright side: I would’ve had it Friday night and I was sitting at the match surrounded predominantly by Essendon supporters. 😆

How are you faring WCW?

[The Mighty Demons 832]

 

[Fat Tony 4,403]

I watched the replay last night and I think we played pretty well and much better than has been . We were excellent in the first quarter and would have been further in front had we not failed to convert from set shot. The Bombers scoring shots were from lucky wobbly kicks inside 50 or 50m penalties.

The second half was a bit more concerning only because of the centre clearance. As much of a weapon the centre clearance was for us in the finals last year, we were not a great over the course of the season last year. I would like us to be a bit more conservative in there.

I still think the only way we lose at the moment (when our pressure is high) is if we kick poorly for goal and/or we get badly beaten in the centre clearance. Both these things happened on Friday and we still won by 29 points.

[58er 5,608]

On 4/3/2022 at 6:29 AM, Dees2014 said:

I reckon BBB and Weid will both play key forwards in future and Tmac will start on the bench and be the swingman for key positions forward and back and Wing. Great position to be in and gives us ultimate flexibility. 
 

interesting to note that in an interview recently Tmac reminded everyone about his credentials as a key back. Whether this was securing his position or not, it means that he is happy playing both forward and back and provides us with considerable gameday flexibility. 

Weid playing forward  and Back is a long way to him playing 5 mins warm up at the start of a game. That old  chestnut has been laid to rest in 2018 and never to be repeated. I am more of a winger than Tommy and Angus has to stamp his "Wingers Club" ticket and that won't happen thank goodness.

Jordon did quite well when winging  it on Friday night. 

Flexibility  yes but mr T everywhere no thanks. 

[58er 5,608]

Just now, 58er said:

Weid playing forward  and Back is a long way to him playing 5 mins warm up at the start of a game. That old  chestnut has been laid to rest in 2018 and never to be repeated. I am more of a winger than Tommy and Angus has to stamp his "Wingers Club" ticket and that won't happen thank goodness.

Jordon did quite well when winging  it on Friday night. 

Flexibility  yes but mr T everywhere no thanks. 

Sorry meant Tmac not Weid  in post above. 

[titan_uranus 22,351]

27 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

I watched the replay last night and I think we played pretty well and much better than has been . We were excellent in the first quarter and would have been further in front had we not failed to convert from set shot. The Bombers scoring shots were from lucky wobbly kicks inside 50 or 50m penalties.

The second half was a bit more concerning only because of the centre clearance. As much of a weapon the centre clearance was for us in the finals last year, we were not a great over the course of the season last year. I would like us to be a bit more conservative in there.

I still think the only way we lose at the moment (when our pressure is high) is if we kick poorly for goal and/or we get badly beaten in the centre clearance. Both these things happened on Friday and we still won by 29 points.

Agree, but would add that until we get the defensive reinforcements back, we're at risk in any game where we get badly beaten in any clearance, and/or if we turn it over at half-forward.

Last year we could cover for either/both of those with our backline. I'm not confident that with Hunt, Smith and Tomlinson playing together, we'd be able to continue to cover turnovers or quick clearances against.

[Dante 2,562]

On 4/2/2022 at 1:10 AM, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

I’m going against the grain here, I know, but I thought Weid was good in patches, but still makes some fundamental errors. Kick inside 50 in the last quarter when he had three options to choose from and stuck it down an essendon players throat. Kicked the tough ones and missed ones directly in front . I do agree he deserves to continue in the team for now and TMac can have a spell, but he must eradicate these ‘panic moments’ and ‘pressure lapses’. It’s all in his head. The only way he clears this up though, a full 6 week block playing with the same blokes.  

Weid kicked 4 goals 3 points had 11 possessions and 7 marks

Curnow and McKay kicked 5 goals 1 point between them  and had 11 marks between them

Most on here have written Weid off, and he has now shown that he can play at this level. I understand that it a small sample but he has shown what he is capable of.

Let's hope he backs this up next week, he could turn out to be a very good player for us.

 

[Demon Jack 6,278]

Watched the replay yesterday and I thought Fritsch had a better game than I first gave him credit for. Not a big night on the stats sheet, but he did a couple of really good team things that set up some shots at goal. 

- Paddled the ball to Langdon who kicked it to Weideman for his first shot of the match (behind)

- Laid a strong tackle in the first quarter which rewarded him with a set shot (behind)

- Stepped through a tackle and kicked the ball neatly to Sparrow in the second (goal)

 

Edited April 4, 2022 by Demon Jack

[FlashInThePan 1,893]

7 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

Watched the replay yesterday and I thought Fritsch had a better game than I first gave him credit for. Not a big night on the stats sheet, but he did a couple of really good team things that set up some shots at goal. 

I watched the replay yesterday also and it looked quite different in places to what I saw at the ground. For one, you could not see clearly how massively they were flooding our forward line in the first half. 

[Demon Jack 6,278]

1 hour ago, The Mighty Demons said:

 

Thanks for these edits TMD.

Just a thought, it might be worth chucking these in a separate thread, as I feel they can get lost in these post game ones.

Great stuff!

[Diamond_Jim 11,747]

7 minutes ago, FlashInThePan said:

I watched the replay yesterday also and it looked quite different in places to what I saw at the ground. For one, you could not see clearly how massively they were flooding our forward line in the first half. 

Strongly expect this to be the tactic most adopted against us.

The way to beat it is simple. Kick goals and then the other side has to take risks playing catch up. Harder than it sounds but our goalkicking allowed Essendon and GCS to stay in the game

[Lucifers Hero 37,008]

If op flood our backline and tag our stars those tactics will backfire and they will struggle to kick a winning score. 

They may hope to get a few cheap 'out the back' goals but our defence is very good at stopping those forays. 

The tactic that worked best against us last year was fast attacking football.

[Fat Tony 4,403]

1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

Agree, but would add that until we get the defensive reinforcements back, we're at risk in any game where we get badly beaten in any clearance, and/or if we turn it over at half-forward.

Last year we could cover for either/both of those with our backline. I'm not confident that with Hunt, Smith and Tomlinson playing together, we'd be able to continue to cover turnovers or quick clearances against.

We will obviously be better with Lever and Petty back (and Salem), but I don't see turnovers at half forward as an issue. We are always so well set up behind the ball and usually play the boundary line. The whole game plan is about minimising the chance for them to score if we turn it over.

The general clearance is also different than the centre bounce because we can set up with an extra behind the ball. Opposition clubs will usually give us this as they can't match Petracca and Oliver. We will often lose clearances badly because we are outnumbered but not suffer on the scoreboard.

[buck_nekkid 5,482]

Our setup behind the ball was really good most of the night.

major concern is max in the ruck- seems to get picked clean by oppo teams too regularly.

i can see Jordon out, brayers back to the wing, lever in. This will allow the backline to be rewarded and space made for lever.

Tagging Trac when he was a bit off might look like a gold strategy, but when he is on I don’t think it’s effective.  McGrath went to Oliver later and took a bath.

May beaten by Peter , but fast entry caused by midfield and half forward lack of pressure.  He did some nice things in between.

great to see Weids stick marks and lead strongly.  Will be hard to displace after that effort.

 

[Pates 9,536]

1 hour ago, buck_nekkid said:

Our setup behind the ball was really good most of the night.

Apart from the third quarter I’d agree with you, the worry was that when we lost our structure there really seemed to be a few headless chook moments. Thankfully May brought them all in and steadied the ship, but the Stringer mark inside 50 was something we haven’t seen for a long time. 

I think that’s the best thing about this team though, when the oppo has the run on and even takes the lead there isn’t panic or blaming. Each line comes together and knows what they need to do to reset. 

[Deemania since 56 6,135]

2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Strongly expect this to be the tactic most adopted against us.

The way to beat it is simple. Kick goals and then the other side has to take risks playing catch up. Harder than it sounds but our goalkicking allowed Essendon and GCS to stay in the game

In that first qtr against Essendrug, we had golden moments to score goals, it should have been all over. Chocko has to go out and refresh a few 'free wheelers' on how to kick goals.

[mauriesy 6,790]

1 hour ago, buck_nekkid said:

Tagging Trac when he was a bit off might look like a gold strategy, but when he is on I don’t think it’s effective.  McGrath went to Oliver later and took a bath.

Petracca seemed to spend more time forward in this match. It dragged McGrath away from the contest. If tagging Petracca takes one of their best midfielders out of play, I'm not sure it was a winning tactic on Essendon's behalf.