Joel Smith signs on for 2022

[Constant Mongrel 571]

he cant kick for shiat

[Deemania since 56 6,165]

1 hour ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

Happy about this

https://mfcde.es/3m527EB

Hopefully, injury-free, he will add another dimension (and a valuable one) to the team. We just have to play him in the forward line to reap such benefits. 

[Redleg 37,698]

41 minutes ago, Pollyanna said:

 

There is no way he will play forward this week ahead of Weid, just no way.

If he did, I think Weid would be telling his manager to get him out of the place.

[Stiff Arm 4,412]

3 minutes ago, Redleg said:

If he did, I think Weid would be telling his manager to get him out of the place.

Maybe he already has, Redleg

Just saying...

[Hopeful Demon 1,262]

53 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I’m a believer but he needs to be playing forward.

Agree. I haven't written him off yet but he hasn't shown enough when he's been picked in the backline. He probably should've been given a chance to play forward last year when Tmac was struggling. I remember in one preseason game in 2019 he kicked 4 goals as a forward.

[Diamond_Jim 11,827]

one year more

I'm okay with that kind of list management. Second level back up.

Baker might leave in search of greener pastures.

Have no idea as to whether we will give M Brown another year but probably not.

Majak is also nice insurance until a decision is made on Bradtke.

Edited August 13, 2021 by Diamond_Jim

[cantstandyasam 700]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

He would prove all wrong including the selectors if they put him wher he should be played

IN THE FORWARD LINE!

Hope they try him there too

[Turner 1,482]

i thought the signing of turner in particular and also declase might spell an end for our sos and yet it has not. would still prefer a 32yo MBrown in the forward line to him and we have tomo to come back next season, strange strange decision for mine

[Dr. Gonzo 22,498]

I don't get it

[FarNorthernD 5,848]

Personally I’m glad the Club has given him another year. I want to see what he can do with all those athletic gifts if he can get a full pre-season without injuries. It’s not much of a sample but one of the Casey games I saw him play his kicking seemed much improved. 

[DubDee 20,762]

He must be relieved man. Clearly valued by the club to not wait til the end if season

[faultydet 7,593]

8 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I don't get it

It certainly takes the "the club knows better than us" to entirely new heights, doesn't it?

Terrible kick, perpetually injured and little awareness in a contest.

Very very strange indeed.

[rjay 23,927]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

He would prove all wrong including the selectors if they put him wher he should be played

IN THE FORWARD LINE!

 

1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I’m a believer but he needs to be playing forward.

 

1 hour ago, sydneydee said:

Agree with Hardtack and I hope to see Joel named and played in the forward line this weekend 

 

1 hour ago, Pollyanna said:

 

There is no way he will play forward this week ahead of Weid, just no way.

 

42 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Hopefully, injury-free, he will add another dimension (and a valuable one) to the team. We just have to play him in the forward line to reap such benefits. 

Just because he kicked some goals in a practice match doesn't make him a forward.

He's not a forwards a....hole

I'm with 'Polly',  no way...and if he does get a game this week it will be in the back half which is where he has been playing with Casey.

...and he won't want to stuff up with May and Lever running that show.

Edited August 13, 2021 by rjay

[titan_uranus 22,458]

18 minutes ago, rjay said:

Just because he kicked some goals in a practice match doesn't make him a forward.

He's not a forwards a....hole

I'm with 'Polly',  no way...and if he does get a game this week it will be in the back half which is where he has been playing with Casey.

...and he won't want to stuff up with May and Lever running that show.

That may be absolutely right, rjay, but the way he's played in the backline in previous years does not lend any confidence that he'd be capable of playing in our backline at AFL level.

It may be that in training this year he has developed a level of predictability and maturity in his play, so that he isn't always flying at every contest and peeling off his man at precisely the wrong moment. If that's the case, and he's capable of slotting into a defensive position if we have a player out, then that's all well and good.

But based on what he's shown at AFL level previously, I don't think it's unfair for some of us to suggest he might be better suited to the forward line.

[Winter Dan 425]

He looked good in the few VFL games I saw him this year on the telly.

 

[Demon Disciple 11,026]

2 hours ago, Ethan Trembley said:

An athlete but not an AFL footballer. Hope he proves me wrong but I doubt it. 

Agree ET. Not quite sure what the FD continue to see in him.

Unless they plan on utilising him up forward (which they should’ve done from the beginning), he is a liability down back.

[rjay 23,927]

13 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

That may be absolutely right, rjay, but the way he's played in the backline in previous years does not lend any confidence that he'd be capable of playing in our backline at AFL level.

It may be that in training this year he has developed a level of predictability and maturity in his play, so that he isn't always flying at every contest and peeling off his man at precisely the wrong moment. If that's the case, and he's capable of slotting into a defensive position if we have a player out, then that's all well and good.

But based on what he's shown at AFL level previously, I don't think it's unfair for some of us to suggest he might be better suited to the forward line.

Yep, I get where you are coming from but I don't think you can select a player forward because he's a liability in defence.

Surely we're well done with  that.

What would that say to Weid???

Smith has had the same problems forward in the past...flying at every contest, spoiling teammates etc.

I will add another problem for him as a defender, his disposal and decision making has been poor and he's not a smart enough footballer to play a lockdown role that Hibberd at least can do.

 

 

 

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,297]

Depth

I think it spells the end for Weid

[Winners at last 4,742]

 

[Earl Hood 5,789]

Interesting player Joel. We all agree he is an athlete first, footballer second. He seems a likely forward like his dad but he has struggled there. He has been turned into a key back playing for Casey and the odd game in the ones but with injuries has been on the fringe and many see him as a risky defender in the Frost mode. He is 190 cm, watching him at training I know he can run and cover territory, he has good hands at ground level and can take an high mark. Then Alan Richardson last year, talks about Joel having absolute elite endurance ability, second to none in the AFL. So when I read that, my thoughts were why haven’t we tried this guy on the wing or a run with, negating mid role to maximise his athletic skills. We know his disposal isn’t great but neither was Langdon’s when he came to us and he has worked hard to become competent in that area. And haven’t Geelong turned a guy like Blicavs, a former steeplechaser, a pure athlete, into an asset on the wing? Anyway just some thoughts on how to use this guy to maximise his talents now that he has been resigned for another year. 

[demon3165 1,944]

Would have him on the list before Viney.

[titan_uranus 22,458]

2 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Would have him on the list before Viney.

This is seriously a poor comment.

[binman 38,479]

Smith will make it.

[demon3165 1,944]

2 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

This is seriously a poor comment.

Why, Viney is just a rugby player cannot kick, not a big mark and no football awareness, so no not a lot of upside for me.

[faultydet 7,593]

5 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Interesting player Joel. We all agree he is an athlete first, footballer second. He seems a likely forward like his dad but he has struggled there. He has been turned into a key back playing for Casey and the odd game in the ones but with injuries has been on the fringe and many see him as a risky defender in the Frost mode. He is 190 cm, watching him at training I know he can run and cover territory, he has good hands at ground level and can take an high mark. Then Alan Richardson last year, talks about Joel having absolute elite endurance ability, second to none in the AFL. So when I read that, my thoughts were why haven’t we tried this guy on the wing or a run with, negating mid role to maximise his athletic skills. We know his disposal isn’t great but neither was Langdon’s when he came to us and he has worked hard to become competent in that area. And haven’t Geelong turned a guy like Blicavs, a former steeplechaser, a pure athlete, into an asset on the wing? Anyway just some thoughts on how to use this guy to maximise his talents now that he has been resigned for another year. 

Not the worst suggestion.

Surely the coaching staff is considering different roles for Joel considering he has not made headway playing essentially the same role every week he gets on the park.

As the VFL is seemingly always cancelled, it would take injuries to our senior wingmen for him to find a spot to even try your approach and we all know Joel himself is the one more likely to get injured.