AFLX is coming (the X makes it sound cool)

[Satyriconhome 9,993]

You can do a knee at Goschs with nothing more than an innocuous bump, ask Trac,  so that point is mute

[Ethan Tremblay 28,470]

39 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

You can do a knee at Goschs with nothing more than an innocuous bump, ask Trac,  so that point is mute

Did Misso or Goody tell you that? 

[Diamond_Jim 11,941]

42 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

You can do a knee at Goschs with nothing more than an innocuous bump, ask Trac,  so that point is mute

the point is perhaps far from moot Saty. Training is a required activity and we accept injury risks. This is an activity of zero benefit to the MFC, so for a player to get injured while participating would be extremely upsetting.

[Little Goffy 12,727]

I really thought this was just a format for kids and casual players.

I still do.

[RalphiusMaximus 5,993]

So basically it's a chance to give some kids who will struggle to make seniors a run on the big grounds and play in front of cameras and maybe an audience.  I'd be pretty annoyed if we played any of our front-line mids in there.  It's not worth the risk, especially at the speed this is going to be played.  They're asking for injuries. 

[binman 38,829]

2 minutes ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

So basically it's a chance to give some kids who will struggle to make seniors a run on the big grounds and play in front of cameras and maybe an audience.  I'd be pretty annoyed if we played any of our front-line mids in there.  It's not worth the risk, especially at the speed this is going to be played.  They're asking for injuries. 

My understanding is it replaces one pre season game? If so it probably reduces the likelihood of a preseason injury in a game given AFLX only uses 10 players aside and i assume shorter. Worth a try - the pre season games are crap anyway

[Melb-A-Toast 257]

12 hours ago, brendan said:

Let’s be honest by next month we will be all itching for some footy so will come at the right time, however do not play any stars not worth the risk give the kids a crack at it 

Itching... is that an AFLXion?

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,501]

I accept that injuries can occur at any time and that the risk of injury is not a reason not to proceed with AFLX. But it's pointless for AFL's top line talent. That's why it should not proceed.

On the other hand, if the AFL truly believes there's an international market for a game that can be played on standard rectangular fields, then by all means, trial the concept. But use retired players or VFL players to prove the concept. 

[Guest]

Perhaps the AFL is going to dust off that Futureball concept they and Coca Cola tried to run 25 years ago? Only this time it will be under the banner of AFLX.

 

Edited January 16, 2018 by Colin B. Flaubert

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

2 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I accept that injuries can occur at any time and that the risk of injury is not a reason not to proceed with AFLX. But it's pointless for AFL's top line talent. That's why it should not proceed.

On the other hand, if the AFL truly believes there's an international market for a game that can be played on standard rectangular fields, then by all means, trial the concept. But use retired players or VFL players to prove the concept. 

 

Yep, it's all because of the rectangular fields. I'm no expert, but surely there a bunch of cricket ovals dotted around the world? Surely England, India and NZ would be more viable international targets given they have the existing infrastructure to play AFL as it is and not requiring the expense of a concept trial.

I'm pretty unexcited by the concept TBH. Even if it does get some traction internationally, it'll still be an "AFL-lite" product. The real thing will always be better. The only reason the AFL seems to want to ship an inferior product is field size.

[sue 8,463]

10 hours ago, binman said:

My understanding is it replaces one pre season game? If so it probably reduces the likelihood of a preseason injury in a game given AFLX only uses 10 players aside and i assume shorter. Worth a try - the pre season games are crap anyway

The difference is that a normal pre-season match is practice at doing what teams do during the regular season.  Therefore it is worth taking the risk of injuries, as it is in training.  But an injury doing something else which doesn't help the players prepare for the season causes much gnashing of teeth and tearing of hair, eg Petracca's off-season basketball.

[binman 38,829]

4 hours ago, sue said:

The difference is that a normal pre-season match is practice at doing what teams do during the regular season.  Therefore it is worth taking the risk of injuries, as it is in training.  But an injury doing something else which doesn't help the players prepare for the season causes much gnashing of teeth and tearing of hair, eg Petracca's off-season basketball.

Well they are still playing footy. Its not a new sport and unlike international rules uses footy not a round ball. Whilst they won't b able to practice all in game stragies (like full ground spread, leading patterns and their zones) there will be plenty of things thye can practice on a rectangular filed eg moving the ball through the corridor, quick hands to clear congestion, hitting targets, moving the ball quickly etc etc. All things that they do in training already , for example as someone has noted in this thread the 9 v 9 corridor drill they do.

So 100% it would help players prepare for the season.

[sue 8,463]

1 hour ago, binman said:

Well they are still playing footy. Its not a new sport and unlike international rules uses footy not a round ball. Whilst they won't b able to practice all in game stragies (like full ground spread, leading patterns and their zones) there will be plenty of things thye can practice on a rectangular filed eg moving the ball through the corridor, quick hands to clear congestion, hitting targets, moving the ball quickly etc etc. All things that they do in training already , for example as someone has noted in this thread the 9 v 9 corridor drill they do.

So 100% it would help players prepare for the season.

100%?? You must be joking.  While I'm happy to concede AFLX is more relevant preparation than playing ice-hockey, soccer and even farnarkaling, since it will have elements of what happens in a footy match, by the nature of the field size etc it is far less relevant than a practice match, JLT or internal, or simulations in training which are under control of the coach to learn a game plan.    So I'd say much less than 100%.   And so the injury risk does not warrant the preparation for the season that AFLX offer.

 

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,349]

The lid will be well and truly off around here if we manage to get the 4 points...

[FireInTheBennelly 4,026]

I thought the season was too full to run any sort of state of origin match, yet somehow we can sneak this in?

Smells like Dill ignoring the results of his own surveys to me.

[rjay 23,970]

3 hours ago, binman said:

So 100% it would help players prepare for the season.

So 'binman', if the FD had their way do you really think AFLX would be part of the mix?

I think the problem here is it takes players away from best practice preparation for the season ahead.

[binman 38,829]

2 minutes ago, rjay said:

So 'binman', if the FD had their way do you really think AFLX would be part of the mix?

I think the problem here is it takes players away from best practice preparation for the season ahead.

'Rjay' If the fd had their way they wouldn't play any pre season games. They are pretty useless in terms of preparation as clubs don't go hard and usually clubs only field  a near full strength once if at all (the swans never) leading to mismatches and one sided blow outs. Meaningless.

In that context aflx will be no worse and the fd might even prefer because it replaces one of the pre season games (i think) and given tbey only use 10 players not 23 and the games will be shorter statistically there is less likely to be injuries

[old dee 22,951]

How many teams will play eight second rate players with a couple of best 22?

I suspect 3-4, Sydney and Giants look idea candidates because the AFL will say nothing to them but will get up the likes of us, Saints and North if we try it.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

We have enough problems keeping our players on the track during a normal season.....we will just get injuries. What do you want to win a flag or AFLX.....

[bing181 8,200]

16 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

On the other hand, if the AFL truly believes there's an international market for a game that can be played on standard rectangular fields, then by all means, trial the concept.

I live in Paris, and have taken to watching the local French AFL. Here, it's played with 11 (I think) players on a rectangular rugby pitch, though they round out the corners. When I first heard about it I thought it would be a bit mickey mouse but in fact, it's enjoyable to watch and is recognisably footy as we know it. I thought perhaps that scoring would be too easy, but it's not the case - on the other hand, with more skilful players, not sure, the standard here isn't particularly high. The league in France is coming on in leaps and bounds, and anything the AFL can do to develop and publicise this more accessible format will help, as it will in most places outside of Australia.

Just to say, the only place you find cricket-pitch type pitches in continental Europe are athletic tracks, so hankering after a traditional oval is a waste of time. Having said that, where it's played in Paris, out on the playing fields near the Chateau de Vincennes, there IS a cricket pitch, which is very popular with the local Pakistani community.

[Skuit 9,312]

5 hours ago, bing181 said:

I live in Paris, and have taken to watching the local French AFL. Here, it's played with 11 (I think) players on a rectangular rugby pitch, though they round out the corners.

I saw a French girl's club-team play in Amsterdam last year and was both confused and impressed. The euphonious le Francais and footy make for an odd on-field match. Especially of the feminine variety. But they're a surprisingly feisty lot when it comes to sport.

[WERRIDEE 5,238]

Go for pace in this comp.

TEAM

HARMES, SPARGO, HIBBERD, KENT, FROST, MAYNARD, HUNT, BAKER, GARLETT, JOHNSTONE

[bandicoot 1,395]

On 16/01/2018 at 4:01 PM, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Neither did I, but 20/20 as a cricketing product did have a few years of development, popularity and success before it was launched here.  20/20 also came as a response to a specific need or gap in the market.  People who didn't have an entire day to spend at the cricket could see a condensed match.  It also focused the action on a shorter, intense period of time.  I don't see the correlation to the AFL as the matches are already a similar length to 20/20 cricket and the game is constantly moving with consistent scoring.  30 goals in a match by world sporting standards is a huge amount of action! 

If companies don’t continue innovating then they go out of business. The need for afl X is expansion to new markets i.e nsw and qld 

There aren’t enough ovals to play afl in these states. The alternative is a smaller rectangular ground. In addition is comes hand in hand with people shortened attention span. 

[daisycutter 28,639]

2 hours ago, bandicoot said:

If companies don’t continue innovating then they go out of business. The need for afl X is expansion to new markets i.e nsw and qld 

There aren’t enough ovals to play afl in these states. The alternative is a smaller rectangular ground. In addition is comes hand in hand with people shortened attention span. 

a game for goldfishes and cocker spaniels?

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

On 1/18/2018 at 7:10 AM, Skuit said:

I saw a French girl's club-team play in Amsterdam last year and was both confused and impressed. The euphonious le Francais and footy make for an odd on-field match. Especially of the feminine variety. But they're a surprisingly feisty lot when it comes to sport.

Now that is, "livin the dream."