Little Goffy

Amazing. I'd love to hear your evidence for this. Actually, no, just go away. Does Demonland do bans for sheer wrongness?

Garlett, Frost, Baker, Bedford and Hunt. Pick any five players on our current list and make the switch, would we really be anything more than incrementally improved? Overall our team is faster than it was four years ago and in particular we've added considerable speed in recent drafts in every position. The anti-club Gish Gallop coming from some directions is getting more than annoying.

Yeah, we need to accept that Trac isn't going to be playing again this season. Even non-contact athletics would be pushing it for making a sufficient recovery to be both effective and safe. Entering a collision sport again within just a few months would be incuring a risk that is simply out of scale with anything we could hope to gain this season vs his football future, and anything football offers in general as far as Trac & family at a human level.

'Frustrated supporters' need to grow the f' up and get a grip on their emotions if they want to be taken seriously by their community. Finding emotional stability can be tough but that's just how it is so they need to learn to deal with it or find something else to do. One of my pet hates is when people act like jerks and then insist that it is normal so everyone else isn't allowed to complain. It sits right next to 'If I didn't do it, someone else would' in my list of people to drop in the ocean. Also Guillermo del Toro for describing the early Avengers movies as 'cultural genocide' just because Pacific Rim flopped when competing against them. Yeah, it's a long list, but also a big ocean.

"Get 'em while they're concussed", that's what my mum always said. But seriously, it takes effort not to get ahead of myself on this kid. We've got a deadly weapon in our hands here. Will be a major part of our 2028 premiership.

Trade cost and salary cost far too high, and he is a player to solve a 'now' problem with key defenders, while we have a 'soonish' problem with key defenders which he won't help with much. This draft is loaded with key talls at both ends of the ground from about pick 15 to 35. It would be madness to essentially remove ourselves from that harvest for the sake of a 29yr old.

Seems like there are two unusual phases in the draft. The sheer volume and variety of gun mids at the very start of the draft is impressive, but what has caught my eye is the swarm of key position players starting from late in the first round and continuing into the 30s. My overall thinking at the moment is to hold onto our first pick to monitor for a slider of interest, but if no specific player we want makes it then we should be seriously looking at the early second round instead. It'll be a live trading festival for us again, made more complicated by wanting to ensure we can burn our later picks to pay for Yze. Speaking of whom, he got a respectable write-up on RookieMeCentral the other day but it doesn't help any of us figure out his draft position. Still looks like he will go pretty late. #15 Noah Yze Defender/Midfielder | 190cm | 12/04/2006 Stats: 23 disposals, 4 tackles, 6 inside 50s A prospect of intrigue to Melbourne fans as a father-son this year, Yze produced arguably his best game to date. The versatile 190cm prospect started in defence and was then thrown into midfield as a good size matchup for the likes of Josh Smillie and Oliver Greeves. His strength was evident when tackling, while also absorbing contact well and looking quite comfortable in the clinches. Overall, he performed solidly in both roles and held his own against handy opposition.

So, I was under embargo from sharing this but I have a source at the club who informed me that at the monday training session Gawn was asked by his teammates about his injury and replied, "Look to my coming at first light on the fifth day. At dawn, look to the east."

According to the obviously AI generated promo video, Katy Perry is the "Telstra pre-game entertainment."

'Being told by Dan'. FFS keep it in your pants.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the AFL HQ executives are old enough that their kids were teens ten years ago. Cultural cringe has already been used in this thread. It is interesting to see how it has evolved from 'nothing we do could ever compare to the sophistication of Europe' to 'nothing we do could ever compare to the tacky over-the-top flashiness of America'. Honestly sometimes they give the impression of not knowing Australia exists.

Fair points but I think the argument still holds. Brown was expected to be the player he was, injury and all. He only played half the season in his first (and premiership) year with us and when he did play with us his role was managed. I guess I'd describe it as the club being willing to take on some risk, rather than thinking 'We hope this will all change for the better'. Garlett at Melbourne delivered exactly what he delivered at Carlton. We got him ridonkulusly cheap because he was on the outer in his final season at Carlton for a variety of reasons. Melksham has always been underrated. I was still friends with Essendon supporters back when he was a Bomber and it really was amusing the way he became the whipping boy for everything that was actually wrong with the whole team. I'd say he and Hibberd were both recruited for what they already were, so that our team actually had something resembling an AFL-level best 22, without any fantasies. In contrast, I feel like we were imagining that Fullarton (and Shache) would be able to provide a contested target / ruck back up for no more reason than they were tall, that Billings would find form that he simply hadn't for about four seasons and only ever did find in occasional bursts at the best of times, and that McAdam would not only overcome his injury struggles (fair enough - see Brown) but also fill a new role as a marking target just because he has been able to take some good contested marks when the circumstances fit - he wasn't lining up on Weitering or Andrews each week, that's for sure. Anyway, I feel like I should finish up by saying that my opinion here isn't as harsh as it might sound. There's a lot of screaming and hyperbole and 'anti-fan' energy around here lately which I don't want to be a part of. Crucially, back in the 'pre-premiership' time, our list had so many flaws that just about any competent AFL-level player could find a role in the team. Now it is much more difficult and any player we bring in has to fit into the precise gaps, otherwise they'll get jammed up Grundy style. Finding a capable forward-who-can-ruck, or a ruck who is ready to cover at AFL level but also doesn't mind churning at VFL level, is probably the hardest task in football recruiting, especially when we don't have vast buckets of cash to throw around.

Without wanting to make this too much into a political thread, this is what you get when you let governments de-fund regulators. Hell, it applies to everything from ICAC to the child protection agencies.

I'm reminded of a regular lament of Carlton-supporting family members. Their perspective on why the club continued to stall for perhaps five years after it should have been solidly competitive was that the club at every level was 'hoping' for the right result. 'We hope McKay will kick straight today, because then we win', 'We hope all our stars will get a clean preseason together, because then we'll dominate, and of particular relevance here; 'We hope that the mass of second-hand players we've recruited will give us quality depth'. In our recent trade recruiting I'm seeing a lot of 'We hope this player will suddenly turn their career around'. We hope Schache can provide a physical presence for the first time in his career. We hope Billings will return to the form he briefly showed for two seasons five years ago. We hope Grundy and/or Gawn will be able to transform their game style to accommodate a second top-end ruck. We hope McAdam will go injury free, regain fitness and hopefully provide an undersized marking target which will hopefully mitigate our shortage of key forwards. We Hope Fullarton will discover a delayed-onset maturity and instinct to compete and use his 200cm effectively. It is very different from the known quantity expectations of May, Lever, Hibberd, Langdon, Melksham, Brown and even the less dramatic cases of Hunter, Tomlinson and Garlett. All of these players were traded for with the expectations of 'they will be who they are, and we will fit them into our system and that will get the result we want.' It doesn't mean they all worked, but every trade was a realistic fit for a need.