Stewart Crameri to the Dees?

[hemingway 7,631]

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

Depth, list clogger? 

Here is a conservative list of who can play fwd and who kicked goals las year

Hogan, Weed, Tommy Mc, Hannan, Bugg, Tim Smith, Harmes, Garlett, ANB, Kent, Trac, Melksham, Gawn, Pedersen

We also have AVB coming back

That's 15 players on the list and we want to add a 29 yr old coming off a serious hip injury who has had 2 years out of the game

 

For me, the last para is the most relevant. 

Despite the possible upside (assuming he could achieve and maintain high fitness/match standards, which seems highly unlikely), the upside would be very short term and not represent the future.

Would assume that Gary Zimmerman and co have had a good hard look at him and made the assessment that he will not make it back to the big-time, certainly not at the expense of youth. 

So a big No from me, It would send the wrong message.  

[DeeZee 7,445]

I used to be uncertain but now I'm just not so sure.

[Master Deebater 492]

I'd like to see him as depth. But I'd hate to think that selecting him as a DFA would mean there's no spot (using a pick) for that skinny marking forward for Casey. Forgot his name but would be rapt if he got his chance - yeh Fritsh.

Also I'm keen to see what Tim Smith can provide with an injury free season.

I'd be happy to see him (Cameri) as a rookie selection.

[DeeSpencer 26,083]

2 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

So we chop Kent, who gets constantly criticised on here for his lack of forward pressure, to bring in Crameri who has same reputation?

Read my post above that one. I'd take Crameri to play on a wing, with his forward work a back up. Either way it would be if the footy department decides someone like Kent is worth paying out.

2 hours ago, monoccular said:

? pretty good, like a one year drug ban and a damaged reputation?  What would bad look like?

He was their leading goal kicker something like 4 years in a row and had come from a mature rookie to a settle senior player. Not like he escaped the drug ban anyway!

[Watts Jurrah Dunn? 735]

When fit, Crameri's a better player than Harmes and Bugg, who were regulars.  He'd also have Kent and vandenBerg covered.

Melksham and ANB's form was pretty solid.  

He'd probably compete with Hannan for a spot.  I like Hannan, and am hopeful with a full pre-season he can be involved in games for longer.  Hannan's also a heck of a lot quicker when it hits the deck.

I see the forward line as something like:

Petracca, McDonald, Melksham

Garlett, Hogan, Hannan

But you never have everyone available and form dips, so I'd be very happy to rookie Crameri.

 

[hemingway 7,631]

29 years old and 2 years on the injury list, no way. 

We should not take players with long-term injuries period. 

[Deeman 1,513]

The last player we took coming off a hip injury was one Jimmy Toumpas.

'nuff said.

[Nasher 33,617]

2 minutes ago, Deeman said:

The last player we took coming off a hip injury was one Jimmy Toumpas.

'nuff said.

Love these kind of posts. "(Completely irrelevant detail). 'nuff said."

[old dee 23,872]

1 hour ago, hemingway said:

29 years old and 2 years on the injury list, no way. 

We should not take players with long-term injuries period. 

I am not in love with the idea of adding him however I don't think it is accurate to say he has been injured for two years Ernest.

2016 he was cooling his heals with his druggie mates from Essendon then  injured at the start of 2017. Well that is my understanding.

The biggest problem is the judgement of the Dogs,  they don't think he is worth any sort of contract in 2018.

[maximum bob 462]

Why are we even considering this? A lot of old Melbourne thinking going on here.

[Whispering_Jack 30,677]

If Crameri joins the Demons then he won't be the only player with that surname to represent the club.

Ben Crameri joined the club in 1954 and worked his way up from the Thirds to the Seconds where he was a member of their 1956 premiership team booting eight goals in the Grand Final. Crameri earned a debut in the Firsts in Round 2, 1957 against Collingwood but played only one more that year before returning to the Seconds where he finished runner up in the Seconds Best and Fairest and equal second in the Gardiner Medal, despite only playing nine Seconds games for the year.

Crameri played only one game in 1958 after which he joined Moorabbin in the VFA. He later coached Northcote in that competition.

When Stuart Crameri joined the Bombers I enquired as to whether there was a connection between the two but I never found out.

[Axis of Bob 11,855]

52 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Love these kind of posts. "(Completely irrelevant detail). 'nuff said."

I wouldn't pick Dustin Martin because the last Melbourne player with the initials 'DM' was Dave McGlashan in 1982 ..... 'nuff said!

Edited October 26, 2017 by Axis of Bob

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

We were cruelled with injuries this year.

We don’t want to start 2018 with another.

Edited October 26, 2017 by Barney Rubble

[spirit of norm smith 16,589]

Would be a Casey top up and if fit, used as coverage for Hogan.  Full medical clearance needed before we started any discussions. A punt?

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,234]

IF his body passes the test AND he will play purely performance based AND we plan on lining up with a third tall lead up then its worth the risk v reward consideration. He would be contesting with Smith, Weid and AVB in that role so it isn't exactly bad to have another option that is proven at a goal and a half a game. 

[McQueen 17,867]

2 hours ago, maximum bob said:

Why are we even considering this? A lot of old Melbourne thinking going on here.

It’s being spoken about because Crameri himself has the audacity to publicly declare himself as a good fit for the Demons given we no longer have Watts.

[beelzebub 23,383]

Bizarre thread. Par for this board .

[McQueen 17,867]

1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

Bizarre thread. Par for this board .

Par for site at the moment. 

[Bitter but optimistic 22,249]

8 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Bizarre thread. Par for this board .

At this time of year "bizarre" is as good as bullshite bb.

[Demons11 7,059]

9 hours ago, DemonLad5 said:

4 list spots and 4 draft picks. Won't happen

Rookie spot 

[nosoupforme 3,085]

9 hours ago, DemonLad5 said:

4 list spots and 4 draft picks. Won't happen

Maybe as a rookie pick.

[nosoupforme 3,085]

4 hours ago, hemingway said:

29 years old and 2 years on the injury list, no way. 

We should not take players with long-term injuries period. 

If crameri is fit and does a good preseason and plays  JLT could force his way into the side during the season as a  forward perhaps earlier. He could be picked up in the rookie draft and that is if he passes the Medical tests.

[mo64 5,881]

Crameri on a base salary for 1 year makes sense. He would be legitimate depth, unlike Weid and Tim Smith, who haven't shown anything yet at AFL level.

Edited October 26, 2017 by mo64

[JJJ 1,313]

Avoid. 

Not the sort of bloke I'd want around our younger players. 

[Wells 11 5,422]

5 minutes ago, JJJ said:

Avoid. 

Not the sort of bloke I'd want around our younger players. 

should we keep Hibberd and Melksham away from the youngsters too?