Deep Dive for Viney

[DEE fence 5,039]

 

So Webber et.al.(the medical folk)...

I am freaking out about the foot injury, shades of Trengove etc.

Would there be any value in oxygen therapy for this injury. We need him in finals, as i'm sure everyone agrees.

At the moment he is looking 4 to 6 and it is a huge disaster. Please tell me he will be up for the elimination final?

I am sure it is worth the cash.

 

[monoccular 17,573]

4 hours ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

 

So Webber et.al.(the medical folk)...

I am freaking out about the foot injury, shades of Trengove etc.

Would there be any value in oxygen therapy for this injury. We need him in finals, as i'm sure everyone agrees.

At the moment he is looking 4 to 6 and it is a huge disaster. Please tell me he will be up for the elimination final?

I am sure it is worth the cash.

 

We haven't been told just what injury he has (and I don't mind that by the way) 

If it is bony my understanding is that hyperbaric O2 wouldn't help much but it could were it soft tissue such as scar tissue.

Happy to be corrected though by anyone with greater knowledge 

[praha 11,240]

Isn't this current injury unrelated to his past one? And the reason they're being super conservative is so as to not inflame the other injury?

[Demons rising 52]

I suspected from when he first went out with an unrelated foot injury it was in all likelihood a stress reaction or stress fracture 

stress reaction is lower down the scale but still requires rest and non weight bearing 

I hope first final is possible at it will be four weeks but that is probably possible not likely 

hyperbaric is more for wounds leg ulcers where the evidence is of benefit 

any process requiring healing theoretically may benefit but I don't believe there is any evidence to support it 

[spirit of norm smith 16,581]

Yes he needs rest. Stress fracture type injury more likely. Not great if that is the case. 

[SFebes 4,884]

Why do I get the feeling this injury is very bad and the club is covering it up. Let's hope it's not a Clark/Trengove type

[DEE fence 5,039]

Certainly mixed reports on the benefit - the initial sites I read seemed more positive but I trust the mayo clinic

http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/hyperbaric-oxygen-therapy/basics/why-its-done/prc-20019167

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

18 minutes ago, SFebey said:

Why do I get the feeling this injury is very bad and the club is covering it up. Let's hope it's not a Clark/Trengove type

oh FFS sake....chill out...MFCSS at its finest. He has been upfront about it from the get go...he was weight bearing on a different part of his foot to compensate for his previous foot injury and has stress issues. its not navicular...chill

[rjay 25,070]

Whether a long term or short term injury, it's important he's not rushed back.

You could see he had lost power which meant he struggled to stick a tackle, couldn't break from the contest & was a liability.

Jack wants to play which is admirable but....

[poita 3,902]

23 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

oh FFS sake....chill out...MFCSS at its finest. He has been upfront about it from the get go...he was weight bearing on a different part of his foot to compensate for his previous foot injury and has stress issues. its not navicular...chill

Hence it is utter bulltish for the club to say that it is unrelated to the original foot injury. I know we desperately needed to beat Port Adelaide, but it was inevitable that there would be this sort of consequence from rushing Viney back too early. Now we've most likely lost him for the season. Just plain dumb from all concerned.

[leave it to deever 17,517]

Thankyou for the pre finals bye.

[Sir Why You Little 37,121]

I hope he hasn't come back too early...

[CityDee 738]

3 hours ago, SFebey said:

Why do I get the feeling this injury is very bad and the club is covering it up. Let's hope it's not a Clark/Trengove type

I hope not obviously but have the same concerns. 

[deebug 1,754]

I would hate to be the Dr and co that has to tell Jack to rest, he must be going crazy not be able to anything?

[dimmy 1,308]

3 hours ago, rjay said:

Whether a long term or short term injury, it's important he's not rushed back.

You could see he had lost power which meant he struggled to stick a tackle, couldn't break from the contest & was a liability.

Jack wants to play which is admirable but....

Explains his low possession /tackling (for him ) last few games. ( he did not get a kick last week )

Could we trade him for Seb Ross until the end of September. Then he could come back and if Seb liked us , he could stay. (Would take some negotiation)

[Lord Travis 10,763]

The bye week before the finals is a god send. It'll hopefully give Viney enough time to get fit enough to play finals. We need his intensity and ball winning ability out there. It'll also give others a chance to get over any niggles.

Hope he is right for finals!

[SFebes 4,884]

4 hours ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

oh FFS sake....chill out...MFCSS at its finest. He has been upfront about it from the get go...he was weight bearing on a different part of his foot to compensate for his previous foot injury and has stress issues. its not navicular...chill

Settle down princess, go take your meds. FFS bright back at ya

[bing181 9,328]

9 hours ago, poita said:

Hence it is utter bulltish for the club to say that it is unrelated to the original foot injury. I know we desperately needed to beat Port Adelaide, but it was inevitable that there would be this sort of consequence from rushing Viney back too early. Now we've most likely lost him for the season. Just plain dumb from all concerned.

A few things in life are inevitable, but this isn't one.

Hindsight Bias. 

[chook fowler 19,525]

I'm pretty sure reading that the Club stated that there was no fracture. I think he will play in the first final.

[In Harmes Way 7,823]

If he was done for the season, I'd trust the club to tell us that was the case. I believe he's got the classic 426 and the club are massaging this message taking account for the bye.

because nobody trusts Misso when he says 426 anymore.

[Adzman 2,154]

Jack Viney would play on one leg if it meant playing finals.

Pound for pound there isn't a tougher player in the comp.

He will be back this season.

[nedariks 22]

23 minutes ago, Adzman said:

Jack Viney would play on one leg if it meant playing finals.

Pound for pound there isn't a tougher player in the comp.

He will be back this season.

You don't think that's an issue?
I would rather not risk [censored] up his foot when he still has many seasons with the MFC

[Redleg 41,415]

We win today we play finals.

If Viney is fit he plays,  if not he doesn't.

If he doesn't, someone else does.  

It is what it is!

[binman 43,724]

12 minutes ago, Redleg said:

We win today we play finals.

If Viney is fit he plays,  if not he doesn't.

If he doesn't, someone else does.  

It is what it is!

Is that a haiku?

[Jibroni 5,009]

As tough as Jack is I dont want hime playing if there is any chance of a longer term injury ne: Trenners. Naturally and the medicos will make the right call when that time comes. Just want to win today first!