Judd on Jones

[Redbeard 497]

Juddy's column about Jonesy

 

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/chris-judd-column-to-age-well-melbournes-nathan-jones-must-learn-to-pay-a-different-price-20170501-gvwhsw.html

[Diamond_Jim 12,584]

Interesting comments

Makes a lot of sense but I am not sure that Nathan has the innate footy smarts of a Judd (few have) and therefore he relies on his body strength.

 

[Redleg 40,914]

12 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Interesting comments

Makes a lot of sense but I am not sure that Nathan has the innate footy smarts of a Judd (few have) and therefore he relies on his body strength.

 

Maybe, but as Judd says, he doesn't have to destroy his feet in the process.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,052]

What I find interesting in that article is not so much the content as the respect.  It's very clear that Judd has great respect for Jones as a leader.  Hopefully he's also right that Jones can play a slightly less physical game and prolong his career a little. 

[Adam The God 30,249]

I wonder if he feels some guilt?  He could well have been the one helping Jones hold up that midfield for years.

[Sir Why You Little 37,035]

1 hour ago, A F said:

I wonder if he feels some guilt?  He could well have been the one helping Jones hold up that midfield for years.

He is now on the Carlscum Board, so i doubt it. 

The feelings Judd had for the MFC have long been supressed

[old55 23,570]

That's a good article.

[Forest Demon 4,681]

Interesting Juddy has taken an interest. I can't comment on training, but on the field, I think Jonesy has rounded his game out a lot over the years e.g. I think he is a much better kick these days.

This means he has been able to slot back in at half back more comfortably, which can only be good for his longevity.

[CHF 2,738]

Judd has to realise that there are different strokes for different folks. One of the great things about Aussie Rules is that all different body types can play the game, and play it on their own terms. Jones is smart enough to know what he can and can't do. He is an MFC champion and I am immensely grateful that we have him at the club. 

[CBDees 3,167]

After reading that, I again worry when we are likely to see Brayshaw back and reaching his potential? No worries whatsoever in relation to Trac or Clarry! 

[Biffen 12,943]

Judd basically explaining that once he got to Carlton he was done. 

Jones is a tougher unit than Judd is my take.

I'll  leave the load manAgement to the coaching staff and let Judd mingle with the Carlton coterie or whatever his job is now .

All I can say is his wife is a great dancer,very sensual ,and quite affectionate.

She was quite smitten with the old Biffo but Chris had to turn up later and spoil the night .

I would prefer he kept his nose out of our business in the future.That goes for both Rebecca and Nathan.

 

[Webber 10,468]

Everything Judd says is true, but what he he fails to account for is (and I risk mozzing our skipper here) Jones basic indestructibility. He would appear to be one of those rare beasts in the AFL who are ridiculously durable. He will have to modify his loads no doubt, but I seriously doubt injuries will claim him like they did Judd. 

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[Bitter but optimistic 22,239]

6 hours ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

What I find interesting in that article is not so much the content as the respect.  It's very clear that Judd has great respect for Jones as a leader.  Hopefully he's also right that Jones can play a slightly less physical game and prolong his career a little. 

Yes his respect was clear - quite an accolade from one the game's greats.

[ucanchoose 1,816]

 I really like listening and reading Chris Judd....  

He's articulate, funny (dry) and easy to listen to and actually gives good insights.  A good read

[Skuit 10,031]

Maybe Nat has already changed his training regime with a transition in mind and an active focus on improving his kicking during the off-season? I also feel like Judd was taking a back-handed dig somehow but I can't quite pin-point it. 

[Robbie57 2,020]

It shows the enormous respect other footballers have for Jones I dont think there is any backhander there at all.

"..... the footballing world watched Jones toil for years in a midfield where he had little support, as he cracked in contest after contest, often against bigger bodies and often against the odds."

Other players may be called "Premiership player" but few have the qualities shown by Jones, he learnt from his early barging mistakes and went on to make the most of the skills he had been given. Whilst not "gifted" he has outperformed many who were blessed by the footy gods. He has been resilient and persistent.

His effort and commitment to the Dees is second to none.  

[deebug 1,754]

Wow, i never would expected Judd to take any interested in our club.

It does shows respect towards nugget not only as a footballer but also as a person, i hope our Jonesy will be able to hold that cup up high very soon.

Whilst on Jonesy, does any one know what he named his son?

[beelzebub 23,369]

1 minute ago, deebug said:

Wow, i never would expected Judd to take any interested in our club.

It does shows respect towards nugget not only as a footballer but also as a person, i hope our Jonesy will be able to hold that cup up high very soon.

Whilst on Jonesy, does any one know what he named his son?

He barracked for the Dees as a kid I'm told ( happily corrected if wrong )

[leave it to deever 17,511]

1 hour ago, deebug said:

Wow, i never would expected Judd to take any interested in our club.

It does shows respect towards nugget not only as a footballer but also as a person, i hope our Jonesy will be able to hold that cup up high very soon.

Whilst on Jonesy, does any one know what he named his son?

SOJ

[praha 11,240]

Maybe it's just me but he says a lot without saying much. I get his point but he takes a while to get there.

[hemingway 7,627]

6 minutes ago, praha said:

Maybe it's just me but he says a lot without saying much. I get his point but he takes a while to get there.

His point was that footballers and athletes have to adjust their training as they get older to avoid injury or burnout. This is true for all sports but particularly so in AFL. It's a point well made and should gel with those who have participated in any sport for any length of time at a highly competitive level.  Research has shown that athletes are at their peak for about 7 years before injury and wear and tear take their toll. It's not so much the age of the person but when they started competing and training at a high level. One of the problems of starting young is that the injuries come earlier. Many ex athletes with knee, hip and ankle problems such as arthritis will tell you that they wished they had done things differently when they were training. One of the reasons why cross training has become so important is to avoid the highly repetitive activities that result in injuries. 

[Sir Why You Little 37,035]

20 minutes ago, praha said:

Maybe it's just me but he says a lot without saying much. I get his point but he takes a while to get there.

exactly. Could have said all he wanted in one paragraph

No doubt had to fill a quota

He is smart but I always find Chris to be cold.

Maybe because he snubbed his nose at us when we really needed a marquee player.

And he chose Carlscum!!

[DeeSpencer 25,694]

Viney, Oliver maybe even Tyson do a lot of the heavy lifting at the coal face these days. Jones is splitting out to the wing a fair bit and in time will probably take Vince's half back spot.

So I'm not too worried about him adapting his on field role to protect his body.

I think Juddy has a point regarding the extra running but at the same time Jones is 29 which isn't all that old and I'd rather have him out there with Brayshaw and Petracca than not! If the fitness staff read this article I think they'll have a word to Jones about finding a gravel track or grass instead of the hard surface. 

[Chook 15,013]

16 hours ago, Redbeard said:

Juddy's column about Jonesy

 

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/chris-judd-column-to-age-well-melbournes-nathan-jones-must-learn-to-pay-a-different-price-20170501-gvwhsw.html

Very good article, and actually has quite a lot of relevance to people from all walks of life.

[Adzman 2,154]

Reading this just makes me want Jones to win a flag before his time is up. It's easy to forget how much he has given to this footy club, especially over some of our darkest years.

If the kids are learning from him, I expect they will have very good football careers!