Conspiracy

[DubDee 20,364]

commentators hate a one sided thrashing so usually are biased to the under dog

enjoy it! means we are one of the best in the comp!

leave the pity commentary to the shizen clubs. 

[The heart beats true 16,025]

Just now, Dr. Gonzo said:

Honestly I can't believe the absolute muppets on other boards (BigFooty) and social media claiming the Suns were robbed by the umps last night. Watching the game I thought we were getting a raw deal and got a couple back at the end. Suns were unlucky with a couple but seriously they wouldn't have been close if the umps didn't gift them a bunch of goals in the 3rd.

I feel like I'm not one-eyed either, last week I thought we were looked after by the umps, North were pretty hard done by (not that it would have made a difference). I thought we were lucky not to get the whistle blown against us a couple of times in the final quarter last night but for the first 3 quarters we were pretty bloody stiff.

People are only because that was what the commentary was saying. There’s no talk of the incredibly soft free kicks King got in the third.

In the end they actually got a chance, and didn’t take it. So they weren’t robbed, they simply couldn’t execute.

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1 minute ago, The heart beats true said:

This drove me insane. It’s such an obvious distraction.

I thought by the way Ben was shaking hands with the MFC players after the game...

[Clintosaurus 6,411]

Fox have a narrative for every game, and oppo nuffies are too dumb to think for themselves.

Edited May 7, 2023 by Clintosaurus

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Unfortunately JVR will probably get suspended because MFC. His fist is nowhere near the head and actually makes contact with the fleshy part of his arm. Just a mistimed spoiling attempt. Won't save him though.

[Redleg 37,478]

38 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

 There’s no talk of the incredibly soft free kicks King got in the third.

 

Can you tell me what they were for. I have no idea, as they weren't replayed.

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3 hours ago, Redleg said:

How many times was the JVR spoil on  Ballard repeated?

Because he was getting carted off and there was a delay in play

[Willmoy1947 3,762]

Jvr lifted his arm to avoid the most of the contact

[BDA 19,978]

Bollard copped a knee earlier in the game. I think we could argue that was a contributing factor to bollard getting subbed out. And I think it’s legitimate to question why he was on the field at all after that incident. 

[BW511 2,236]

What about the down the field free kick in our goal square which caused the scuffle at 3/4 time? They didn’t show Ben King running from behind play to belt someone in the ribs. Just said cameras didn’t catch the incident.

 

Edited May 7, 2023 by BW511

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1 hour ago, The heart beats true said:

In the 3rd quarter the suns got 3 free kicks in front of goal, one to Ellis and 2 to King, all resulting in goals, and they didn’t show the replay of the incident once.

Theres a clear mandate by both broadcasters not to show free kicks being paid in front of goal. That they don’t think we are aware of it is embarrassing. There’s an average of 27 seconds to show a replay of an incident before a shot for goal. The only logical conclusion is that they are trying to protect the umpires.

Totally agree with all of this, especial the last sentence.  The AFL pull the strings on everything, so of course they run a tight ship with the broadcasters and commentary.   Didn't Tim and Sam Lane disappear from mainstream commentary because they didn't follow the AFL script?  

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2 hours ago, bush demon said:

The Hawks then narrowly got past us in a '63 final (Barassi suspended) and that premiership marked an unbroken and unparalelled run of premierships for every decade since.

Except that Geelong won it in 1963. I think Hawthorn’s first premiership was in 61. Yes, Barassi was suspended in 63. 

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3 minutes ago, Fanatique Demon said:

Except that Geelong won it in 1963. I think Hawthorn’s first premiership was in 61. Yes, Barassi was suspended in 63. 

Quite right. Rot set in after our 60 flag. Thence, Kennedy's commandos.

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At the end of the day people who gives a flying [censored] what commentators like Dunstall and dermie think. 

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2 minutes ago, bush demon said:

Yes, Barassi was suspended in 63. 

Off topic, I know…

For all the talk of how brutal players were back in the good old days, players who threw a punch were suspended for weeks. In Ron’s case (where there was no clear evidence of a punch on Roger Dean) he got 4 weeks. These days that might be two weeks, down to one with an early guilty plea. 

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3 minutes ago, dl4e said:

At the end of the day people who gives a flying [censored] what commentators like Dunstall and dermie think. 

It’s not so much the commentary, which is often inane, but rather the picking and choosing of what they show. 

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1. Dunstall is a banana bender by birth

2. Are Dunstall and Berm on the AFL payroll in any capacity?

Edited May 7, 2023 by Queanbeyan Demon
Typo

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35 minutes ago, Fanatique Demon said:

For all the talk of how brutal players were back in the good old days, players who threw a punch were suspended for weeks. In Ron’s case (where there was no clear evidence of a punch on Roger Dean) he got 4 weeks. These days that might be two weeks, down to one with an early guilty plea. 

Melbourne FC unsuccessfully applied to have footage shown to the Tribunal which showed that Barassi didn't even make contact to the head and that Dean was staging.   

[Sydney_Demon 1,175]

Just watched the Round So Far on the AFL website. Riley Beveridge makes an outrageous comment that JVR doesn't have his eyes on the ball and that theAFL would be looking to refer this straight to the tribunal. It was a clumsy spoiling attempt and clearly he was trying to spoil the ball:

https://www.afl.com.au/video/920710/trsf-exclusive-vision-sheds-light-on-dees-free-kane-responds-to-dimma?videoId=920710&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1683383083001

And then they highlight the Ben King push that led to a Melbourne goal kick from thre square. Blurry vision from 100m away but they were very happy to make the call it wasn't deserving of a free kick!  

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4 minutes ago, Sydney_Demon said:

Just watched the Round So Far on the AFL website. Riley Beveridge makes an outrageous comment that JVR doesn't have his eyes on the ball and that theAFL would be looking to refer this straight to the tribunal. It was a clumsy spoiling attempt and clearly he was trying to spoil the ball:

https://www.afl.com.au/video/920710/trsf-exclusive-vision-sheds-light-on-dees-free-kane-responds-to-dimma?videoId=920710&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1683383083001

And then they highlight the Ben King push that led to a Melbourne goal kick from thre square. Blurry vision from 100m away but they were very happy to make the call it wasn't deserving of a free kick!  

The only vision of this I have seen is from behind JVR so how do they know he wasn't watching the ball 

[BW511 2,236]

Even with the replays, it looked like a general play type incident that warrants a free kick and a few choice words, nothing more.

I think he will get 3 because of the stretcher but I am not convinced it even warranted one.

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1 hour ago, Deebymistake said:

Totally agree with all of this, especial the last sentence.  The AFL pull the strings on everything, so of course they run a tight ship with the broadcasters and commentary.   Didn't Tim and Sam Lane disappear from mainstream commentary because they didn't follow the AFL script?  

I heard repeatedly during the week that Grundy had received the most "for" free kicks in the opening 7 games. The media went on ad nauseam about it.

I should have known what the response from AFL House would be; 7 "against" none "for."

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4 hours ago, Redleg said:

Everyone loves a conspiracy theory.

With Dunstall and Derwayne openly barracking for the Suns, it was interesting that every time they said there should have been a Suns free or an incorrect free was paid to the Dees, the incident was replayed a couple of times and dissected by the commentators.

However, contentious frees and goals paid to the Suns were totally ignored and no replay to show the incident/decision was seen.

I had absolutely no idea why several frees and resultant goal decisions were paid to the Suns.

How does this happen repeatedly in a game that is so heavily televised with multiple cameras?

How many times was the JVR spoil on  Ballard repeated?

It seemed to be extremely selective vision and replays.

Just a bit of fun for post game discussion, easier of course when you win.

 

We love a good conspiracy theory on this program Mr Leg.

The JVR moment was way over the top. Would have liked to see the touch ball early in the game again considering one umpire called it.

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41 minutes ago, Sydney_Demon said:

Just watched the Round So Far on the AFL website. Riley Beveridge makes an outrageous comment that JVR doesn't have his eyes on the ball and that theAFL would be looking to refer this straight to the tribunal. It was a clumsy spoiling attempt and clearly he was trying to spoil the ball:

https://www.afl.com.au/video/920710/trsf-exclusive-vision-sheds-light-on-dees-free-kane-responds-to-dimma?videoId=920710&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1683383083001

And then they highlight the Ben King push that led to a Melbourne goal kick from thre square. Blurry vision from 100m away but they were very happy to make the call it wasn't deserving of a free kick!  

And Jay Clark urging a. jVR suspension as well.

since when is it the media’s role to talk up this stuff? How about letting the (albeit flakey) MRP do its job.

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39 minutes ago, BW511 said:

Even with the replays, it looked like a general play type incident that warrants a free kick and a few choice words, nothing more.

I think he will get 3 because of the stretcher but I am not convinced it even warranted one.

Why did he grab the back of his head immediately, rather than where the actual contact was????