Farewell Luke Jackson

[Demons11 6,404]

On 7/25/2022 at 4:26 PM, sue said:

No need to be so narky D11.  There have been lots of posts saying he is gone where the poster implies they have inside knowledge or use the word official loosely.    It's unreasonable to say 'officially' until it is announced by the club or player. And it is reasonable to ask anyone posting the basis for their statement. If by 'offically' you mean you have a reliable inside source that tells you it has happened, you should simply say so.

Can we say official now 😉

[Colm 1,477]

1 minute ago, Mach5 said:

I think you’ll see us look to trade in a late first rounder, the plan being to then send that to WC for pick 2, satisfying the AFL’s requirement that they maintain a presence in the first round. 
 

Maybe pick 2 & 20 for pick ~17.

Then pick 20 to pies for Grundy (not what I want, moreso a prediction)

That’s unders for sure. AFL seem very open to giving WC exemption to pick Luke and not have a first round pick this year. 

[CRomey 33]

If he really has said that either club is fine then, it still sucks, but I have a lot of respect for it.

Really this is how all go-home cases should be if they do honestly just want to be near family imho.

Edited September 13, 2022 by CRomey

[layzie 28,752]

I can see a lot of older posts referenced for 'I told you so' or 'You were so stupid when you said that' factors now. 

[Demon Dynasty 15,471]

No Grundy FCS.  Have to assume he's damaged goods and can't play forward anyway.

Need a Tall KF play maker / contested mark inside 50 to replace BB whenever that's needed and support Macca/JVR foing forward

[Fanatique Demon 2,408]

Thanks for the contribution, Luke.
 

I’d have been happy for him to stay but I’m not heartbroken that he is going. We won’t miss his contribution in the short term, and who knows what he will contribute elsewhere in the long term? There are no guarantees that he will be a star. Remember Weid’s great final series in 2018?

Out of interest, I checked Luke’s standing in our B&F for 2020 and 2021. In the former year he came 19th, one position behind Charlie Spargo. In the next year he came 12th, one position ahead of Spargo. Yes, I know… different ages, different positions, etc. But still, it’s interesting. I can’t see Jackson improving on 12th this year. 

[Supreme_Demon 3,011]

Disappointed that Luke Jackson is leaving the Demons.

I guess the longer it dragged on the more likely it was going to happen.

I was hopeful he would stay...but the pull of family and big money won out.

At least he helped us break our 57 year Premiership drought. Nobody can ever take that away from him.

Glad he just said a WA Club as that gives the Demons more bargaining power.

I would expect either 2 first round picks or a first round pick and a good player in return. 

Let's now enjoy seeing Fremantle and West Coast fight it out to give the Melbourne Football Club the best trade deal for Luke Jackson.

 

[Dr. Gonzo 22,415]

Sad to see him go but can't hold it against him. Seems like a decent guy and he's an MFC premiership player which isn't a huge list in the scheme of things.

Hopefully he has genuinely said he wants to go to WA and not Freo so we can secure decent compo for him and not settle for two mid-1st round picks.

[TRIGON 4,718]

13 minutes ago, Action Jackson said:

I'm with you there....

Retraction Jackson?

[Lord Travis 10,167]

6 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

I think you’ll see us look to trade in a late first rounder, the plan being to then send that to WC for pick 2, satisfying the AFL’s requirement that they maintain a presence in the first round. 
 

Maybe pick 2 & 20 for pick ~17.

Then pick 20 to pies for Grundy (not what I want, moreso a prediction)

This scenario is very plausible so the AFL don't have to break their own rules to get a good trade done with West Coast. He's done us a favour nominating the state, not a specific club. This is how all trades should be done where go home is the reason. Free agency is when a player can nominate a specific club.

If the above scenario played out, I'd prefer we don't bring Grundy in and either take 20 to draft or use it on another type of player, similar to the Langdon deal. Would be good to draft Cadman as a KPF with pick 2, then trade in a classy player for the half forward flank to upgrade the Nibbler/Spargo type role players and make us more potent up forward.

[The Jackson FIX 2,293]

10 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

I think you’ll see us look to trade in a late first rounder, the plan being to then send that to WC for pick 2, satisfying the AFL’s requirement that they maintain a presence in the first round. 
 

Maybe pick 2 & 20 for pick ~17.

Then pick 20 to pies for Grundy (not what I want, moreso a prediction)

West Coast can trade out of 1st round with special permission. Read somewhere today that there is a belief that AFL would tick that off fairly quickly in the event of a Jackson trade given his age/achievements.

[layzie 28,752]

Not holding it against him, think it's a bold move and not guaranteed to bring him success or happiness but that's the risk of life. Will be forever grateful for his contribution, he's a loss no doubt about it. We really just need to get the best deal possible and keep moving forward. 

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

Been thinking.

Next year is a bumper crop and I wouldn't mind grabbing a future first rounder for next year.

Zane Duursma is a player I'd die for, younger brother of Xavier who has been dominating games as an under-ager.

He's likely to go top 5 though so we'd have to work some magic next year. 

I just get the feeling that's the draft we should hit hard given the talent available in those first 10 picks.

We could really set ourselves up.

 

[dazzledavey36 48,772]

I hope Luke and his family are fully aware just how absolutely brutal the WA supporter base and media can be.

There is some genuine frustration and anger already from Freo supporters with the players that are being pushed out to fit this guy in alone.

It's going to take a while for Freo/WC supporters to warm up to him because of the high expectations they'll have on purely from how much draft capital they've had to give up.

[KLV 1,631]

Yeah I agree if he’s willing to go to either wa club, then it makes the go home factor more palatable 

[Mel Bourne 3,665]

4 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

 

Interesting.

How do you feel about Lever ? I'm sure you loved that he came to us.

And what do you know about Luke's situation. Nothing I imagine. 

Supporters get way too caught up in emotionality about an individual they know nothing about.

“How do you feel about Lever ? I'm sure you loved that he came to us.”

And I’m sure Adelaide fans didn’t. The discussion here is not about how Freo/WCE supporters feel about getting Luke Jackson. 

“And what do you know about Luke's situation. Nothing I imagine.”

Is that really a prerequisite for feeling disappointed? Are we expected to know the personal goings-on of all players before being allowed to feel let-down? 

We pay our memberships, and the kids are paid untold amounts of money themselves, so we can skip the whole “getting to know you” process, and treat this for what is - mass entertainment.

“Supporters get way too caught up in emotionality about an individual they know nothing about.”

No, they do know about him. They know that he’s a guy we drafted three years ago, who we elevated to the heights of AFL glory and who collected a Rising Star for himself along the way, and now he wants to go home where he’ll get paid more than what we can afford, and that’s all they need to know in order to form an opinion about him. This is footy, not Oprah  

It’s perfectly acceptable to be ticked-off that this guy is leaving, for the exact same reasons we were so jubilant that Trac and Clarry signed on for life. Club loyalty is a quality which has become more and more unique to our game, and I for one see this decision - after merely three years - undeserving of any kind of admiration.

Across the 215 pages (god help us) on this topic, there’s been a lot this “you don’t know his situation” lecturing towards people who dare suggest they’re unhappy about this. It’s not like anybody is planning to actually harass Luke Jackson or give him a piece of their mind beyond this forum. If I ever met the guy I’d express my gratitude for the ‘21 cup and happily leave it at that. But you’ve got to allow people express their frustration, disappointment and even anger (within reason) if the only reason not to is because “there might be something you don’t know”. 

 

 

[John Demonic 4,804]

meh

[Demon Dynasty 15,471]

8 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

Retraction Jackson?

Wacked by Jack?

[layzie 28,752]

At least he didn't ask for a trade full stop. Wouldn't be too happy if he suddenly opened the door to all clubs after a whole year of hearing WA go home factor. Though it could have started a bidding war I guess. 

[Nascent 7,283]

Information in this article update is consistent with what @Demon3has been stating re our compensation request.

 

UPDATE: Demons ruck requests trade to WA club - https://www.afl.com.au/news/842339

 

"But now the Demons will be locked in trade talks. If he chooses Fremantle the reigning premiers would be expected to target two first-round picks for Jackson, including a top-10 pick this year."

"The Dockers hold pick 13 in this year's draft, but could look to move up the draft board using other selections, with the club bracing for trade requests from Rory Lobb, Blake Acres and Darcy Tucker, with Griffin Logue also considering a move to Victoria."

"West Coast holds picks No.2, 20 and 26 this year but as AFL.com.au reported in May, would need AFL approval to trade its first pick under League rules. The AFL would be expected to tick that off given Jackson’s age and experience."

 

[KysaiahMessiah 725]

31 minutes ago, Dogga said:

Can I change my name? 😒

Hope I’m not next :(

[dazzledavey36 48,772]

43 minutes ago, BDA said:

You said he was staying DD. You sounded so sure. What happened?

And was happy to smash anyone on here who said otherwise.

Typical, and stock standard DD.

[Gawndy the Great 7,394]

3 hours ago, Redleg said:

Maybe not now, but deals create outcomes.

As an example GWS have 3 and 21 and will get plenty more via Taranto and Hopper.

They may do a deal for 2 with 3 and another pick for example.

GWS will only do that to snare Cadman from right under our nose. Does sound like an MFC thing to do.

[titan_uranus 22,365]

I'm disappointed, but neither surprised nor angry.

Let's just get the best possible haul for him and move on.

[Mr Steve 3,820]

I'm disappointed that Luke is leaving but people have to understand - If Luke was not a good footballer the club would have no problem Trading him out or de-listing him. Good luck Luke.