POSTGAME: Rd 06 vs Gold Coast

[DeeZee 6,733]

I was very impressed with how composed Viney was.

He gets maligned at times for his kicking, but he was clever last night.

[Kiss of Death 708]

I noticed a marked increase in the amount of protection awarded to the ball carrier/designated player around the contests and in general play.  This is an area of the game I’ve seen missing for some time, and I’m that guy you hear at the game regularly screaming out ‘Help your mate out FFS’ and ‘where’s the shepherd???’ when everybody handballs around in a circle to 1on1 contests. - That 1-2 seconds difference can make such a difference vs pure ChaosBall delivery up the ground. 
 

A few stood out once I started paying attention (Harmes, Hannan, Viney and Pickett).
 

I really hope the review points these out and focuses on them - from memory the subsequent disposals were either short kicks to free targets who could then take their time and frame up the next move, or handballs to advantage that pushed us deeper into attack towards players that had managed to distance theirselves from their direct opponents.

 

[low flying Robbo 979]

2 hours ago, Nasher said:

Absolutely! None more than this one, which still makes the hair on my neck stand up:

 

That is up there as one of my best football moments at the G... Watching the crowd rise as they realised what was about to happen was awesome

[loges 6,028]

Just a bit more on Hannan, he was a late starter, missed most of last year and has played less than 50 games. Reckon he is still maturing as a player.

[Redleg 37,612]

Disappointing, we win a game and I tape the 9 Sunday Footy show and just when it is time for our game wrap up, Andrews comes on for more bad news and there is then nothing about the Dees. Oh well, we will just have to win our next game.

[Demon Dynasty 15,460]

48 minutes ago, Kiss of Death said:

I noticed a marked increase in the amount of protection awarded to the ball carrier/designated player around the contests and in general play.  This is an area of the game I’ve seen missing for some time, and I’m that guy you hear at the game regularly screaming out ‘Help your mate out FFS’ and ‘where’s the shepherd???’ when everybody handballs around in a circle to 1on1 contests. - That 1-2 seconds difference can make such a difference vs pure ChaosBall delivery up the ground. 
 

A few stood out once I started paying attention (Harmes, Hannan, Viney and Pickett).
 

I really hope the review points these out and focuses on them - from memory the subsequent disposals were either short kicks to free targets who could then take their time and frame up the next move, or handballs to advantage that pushed us deeper into attack towards players that had managed to distance theirselves from their direct opponents.

 

One of my biggest bug bears in the modern game KoD.  I loved the Kozzy one where he went for the chasing player with purpose.  The actual shepherd wasn't that effective in the end but just putting a body between the chaser and ball carrier gave our bloke an extra yard or so to work and steady with that next disposal.

Little things that add up to make a slight impact and might well be the difference on the day.

[jnrmac 18,977]

22 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Maxy was great, BOG for me. Was everywhere and took the pack/contested marks we need from him. Great game.

Hey @jnrmac another win by more than a goal one week at a time

Small steps Dr but good to see, Even Oscar had a very good game.

Much more composure, better selection, held on to the ball more. A lot to like.

A question for you: Why does it take us to be pilloried by the rest of the competition/media for us to respond?

[Redleg 37,612]

Durwayne Russell has to be the worst and most annoying commentator on air. Every ordinary bit of play is “spectacular, awesome, magnificent, massive, unbelievable, superb” or any other over the top adjective he can think of. It is infuriating.

[3183 Dee 2,608]

1 hour ago, Kiss of Death said:

 

I noticed a marked increase in the amount of protection awarded to the ball carrier/designated player around the contests and in general play.

 

Yes! I noticed this too - in particular, two shepherds from Bennell, where he hand balled to a team mate and then shepherded the opposition player. There were a couple more instances too, around the contest. It has been conspicuous by its absence so far this year.

[pineapple dee 2,892]

 I haven't read all the preceding comments so I'm not sure if this has been mentioned but what I loved to see at crucial moments last night  and what gives me incredible pride is to see the game changing tackles and pressure acts from Hannan, from Vandenberg and from Viney. 

Commitment, tenacity and ferocity. They've  got their critics, these three but I love those guys for what they did in those moments.

[Mel Bourne 3,665]

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Disappointing, we win a game and I tape the 9 Sunday Footy show and just when it is time for our game wrap up, Andrews comes on for more bad news and there is then nothing about the Dees. Oh well, we will just have to win our next game.

I love that people are still taping shows. VHS? 

Edited July 12, 2020 by Mel Bourne

[picket fence 15,167]

4 hours ago, godees said:

Jetta wasn’t even on screen for Rankine’s first 2 goals. Lockhart was on him for the first. Wasn’t clear for the second, maybe Lever. 
He was on him for the third obviously, as well as his late missed point. The other late shot was from a poor free kick (from memory).

I think the Jetta criticism is a bit overblown. Far from his best game but he wasn’t our worst.

Ok I stand corrected Il,l review game and as as I have said Nev is a favourite!

[John Demonic 4,804]

39 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Durwayne Russell has to be the worst and most annoying commentator on air. Every ordinary bit of play is “spectacular, awesome, magnificent, massive, unbelievable, superb” or any other over the top adjective he can think of. It is infuriating.

This comment has CREAM DRIPPING OFF OF IT

[Kiss of Death 708]

48 minutes ago, 3183 Dee said:

Yes! I noticed this too - in particular, two shepherds from Bennell, where he hand balled to a team mate and then shepherded the opposition player. There were a couple more instances too, around the contest. It has been conspicuous by its absence so far this year.

Apologies to my man Bennell - I definitely noticed those ones too! I knew i left somebody out..

[pinkshark 935]

9 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

O Mac seemed pretty upfront in an interview pre game. Many thought he was a tad unlucky after his R1 omission, he stated they wanted him to work on a few things before he came back in the side. Last night was a great example of an inclusion being justified. 

Everyone sees plays throughout the game that stand out to their eye, in the second quarter O Mac hit a contest hard on the outer wing to cause a spoil, picked up the crumb and burst through a couple of tacklers and put us forward. A few moments later he made himself an outlet option out of the back 50 with a kick to advantage that led to a goal. A few clean marks also. Renewed confidence was wonderful to see from a guy that’s been bashed from pillar to post and not just from here. Like the team, it needs to be backed up next week but you have to start somewhere. 

 

Couldn't believe it was him. Nearly fell off the couch.  But I loved it too.  Looked like a man all game.  Looks like he has had enough of taking criticism, realises he is actually a big mother [censored] and has had enough of not being a lock.  Bloody hope so.

[Vagg 2,422]

53 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

I love that people are still taping shows. VHS? 

VHS?  Who can afford that modern, new-fangled stuff??  Definitely still reel to reel here!  (Why mess with perfection??!)  LOL

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

19 minutes ago, Vagg said:

VHS?  Who can afford that modern, new-fangled stuff??  Definitely still reel to reel here!  (Why mess with perfection??!)  LOL

Analog all the way

[spirit of norm smith 12,919]

11 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

That one where we caught the GC red handed in a perfect tackle with plenty of prior 10m in front of our goals infuriated me, in much the same way as the unpaid Dusty dropping the ball last week.

Reeked of gutless umpiring, yet it would have been paid every day of the week against us, particularly for one of their love child sides like Hawthorn, Richmond etc.

Agree. Umpires were horrible 

[Winners at last 4,729]

58 minutes ago, GoGetRossLyon said:

Analog all the way

Beta surely?

[Clayton van Oliver 1,682]

Oscar doing a Jack Viney impression, shrugging off a couple of sun and bounding up the wing...bloody loved it.

Edited July 12, 2020 by AmDamDemon

[Pates 9,537]

3 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

One of my biggest bug bears in the modern game KoD.  I loved the Kozzy one where he went for the chasing player with purpose.  The actual shepherd wasn't that effective in the end but just putting a body between the chaser and ball carrier gave our bloke an extra yard or so to work and steady with that next disposal.

Little things that add up to make a slight impact and might well be the difference on the day.

Harley did that as well, he hand balled to a player and immediately made the block in the player that was pursuing him. Too often the hand balls our players make appear to be more about passing responsibility rather than the team “thing” to do. 

If I had to guess (without being an expert) I feel like the 1-2 overlap is being more coached rather than the handball > shepherd. 

Just on Kozzie, how good was it to see a Melbourne player have the intelligence to tap forward to Fritta rather than take possession? Definitely something we need to employing more of. 

[Demon Dynasty 15,460]

6 hours ago, Pates said:

Harley did that as well, he hand balled to a player and immediately made the block in the player that was pursuing him. Too often the hand balls our players make appear to be more about passing responsibility rather than the team “thing” to do. 

If I had to guess (without being an expert) I feel like the 1-2 overlap is being more coached rather than the handball > shepherd. 

Just on Kozzie, how good was it to see a Melbourne player have the intelligence to tap forward to Fritta rather than take possession? Definitely something we need to employing more of. 

Bring on the shepherd & the overlap Pates.  More bouncing as well.  Many are losing that art a little too.

Also the hook turn and fake/baulk.  

There are meat and potato players / forwards.  There's some very good players / forwards.

Watching Bennell & Kozzy (add a few seasons experience) you know you're watching the real deal.

[Engorged Onion 9,277]

10 hours ago, pinkshark said:

Couldn't believe it was him. Nearly fell off the couch.  But I loved it too.  Looked like a man all game.  Looks like he has had enough of taking criticism, realises he is actually a big mother [censored] and has had enough of not being a lock.  Bloody hope so.

I'm having a few issues with the afl website... anyway, can anyone post a link to OMAC doing this? Or at least give the time on the video when it occurred?

[Nasher 33,047]

33 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

I'm having a few issues with the afl website... anyway, can anyone post a link to OMAC doing this? Or at least give the time on the video when it occurred?

I can’t post a video but if you can get the AFL vid working it’s around the 11 minute mark of the 2nd quarter. Score result at the end of the play is a behind to vandenBerg.

[sue 8,433]

9 hours ago, Pates said:

Harley did that as well, he hand balled to a player and immediately made the block in the player that was pursuing him. Too often the hand balls our players make appear to be more about passing responsibility rather than the team “thing” to do. 

If I had to guess (without being an expert) I feel like the 1-2 overlap is being more coached rather than the handball > shepherd. 

Just on Kozzie, how good was it to see a Melbourne player have the intelligence to tap forward to Fritta rather than take possession? Definitely something we need to employing more of. 

It's clear that players from all teams are moving to position to receive the ball after they handball to another player A, rather than providing a block to ensure the player A has time and space to dispose of it effectively.  Leads to a lot of circular handballing and turnovers.  But it must work or coaches wouldn't have players doing it.   I'd have inexpertly thought it leads to players not bothering to block even when there would be no chance of them geting the ball back.