Round 12 Non-MFC

[Deemented Are Go! 3,602]

Gresham and  McCartin or dear 

[Dee Zephyr 17,512]

Just now, Deemented Are Go! said:

Gresham and  McCartin or dear 

That was priceless! How on earth did they manage that?

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 5,805]

Welcome to Port Adelaide's newest opponent in china St. KFC havent they gone and shot themselves in the foot.

They have done with their pick, what we did from 2008-2013. 

[DemonWheels 970]

This Saints V Swans game is one of the worst I’ve seen in years. Everyone just going through the motions now that the Swans are up by too much.

Atmosphere is terrible for a Saturday night game - I get the feeling the Saints supporters are well aware that they’re in for a few years of pain. And it will be a tough week ahead for their club in the media.

[Undeeterred 2,864]

St Kilda have had EIGHT MORE inside 50s.

[brendan 3,382]

28 minutes ago, The Lobster Effect said:

I don't think Dew rejected the job but Sydney stood in his way as he was contracted at the time (there's a gentleman's agreement that clubs should let contracted assistants leave if they're going for other senior coaching jobs but Sydney argued it technically wasn't a senior coaching job due to the succession plan).

I think it had to do with his partner she couldn’t move to Melbourne 

[jumbo returns 6,488]

26 minutes ago, Undeeterred said:

St Kilda have had EIGHT MORE inside 50s.

The i50 stat is the most flawed of all stats

Ball comes in, balls bounces out, ball comes in, ball bounces out....

[Monocology 1,108]

RIP the 'anyone can beat anyone' days.

The hours seem like days waiting for Monday 11.30am.

Edited June 9, 2018 by Monocology

[darkhorse72 1,725]

6 minutes ago, Monocology said:

RIP the 'anyone can beat anyone' days.

The hours seem like days waiting for Monday 11.30am.

Big divide between clubs this year it seems, unlike last year.

Edited June 9, 2018 by Darkhorse72

[SaberFang 7,141]

2 hours ago, Darkhorse72 said:

Big divide between clubs this year it seems, unlike last year.

Yep, the gap between the worst teams and the capable teams has widened this year, in an unexpected way. The mediocre teams (St Kilda, Carlton, Gold Coast, Bulldogs) have become inexplicably worse, while the competent teams have levelled off (Geelong, Hawthorn, Sydney, Port Adelaide) or made steady improvement (Melbourne, West Coast, Richmond, Collingwood).

Edited June 9, 2018 by SaberFang

[The Third Eye 212]

13 hours ago, dees189227 said:

i just heard on the radio that gc did not take 1 mark in the forward 50. How does that happen.  These are professional well played athletes. 

That's gc with the million dollar man Lynch in their forward line?

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Gold Coast gave up pick 2 for Weller.

First step is firing whoever approved that.

In all seriousness, the common theme with all rubbish teams is poor list management. Jason Taylor’s influence at our club cannot be undersold.

[alpha33 277]

10 hours ago, ProDee said:

Want to hear something funny ?

The Saints have already started their "Autopsy thread" on BF and it's not even quater time.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/round-12-st-kilda-v-sydney.1196199/

There are some great threads up on Saintsational ATM, reminiscent of the dark days over here.

"Time to turn toxic"

"Has Richo lost the players?"

"Spineless Saints forfeit"

"The most hopeless st kilda team I have ever seen"

and what about this one in the middle of it all?

"Saintsational meet and greet????"

I was tempted to register and start a thread suggesting Mark Neeld was available as a replacement coach but I thought  I would end up feeling guilty about trolling a team while it's down.

[Whispering_Jack 27,992]

23 minutes ago, alpha33 said:

There are some great threads up on Saintsational ATM, reminiscent of the dark days over here.

"Time to turn toxic"

"Has Richo lost the players?"

"Spineless Saints forfeit"

"The most hopeless st kilda team I have ever seen"

and what about this one in the middle of it all?

"Saintsational meet and greet????"

I was tempted to register and start a thread suggesting Mark Neeld was available as a replacement coach but I thought  I would end up feeling guilty about trolling a team while it's down.

It's just as well that you resisted the temptation - my view is that it's bad karma to kick them when they're down, especially so soon after we've been there ourselves. I'm happy to savour our team's current vein of form and not have to worry about the woes of other clubs.

That said, the growing gap between the haves and the have nots remains a serious concern for all football followers. Apart from the damage being caused to the look of the competition by lopsided games, the uneven fixture could have an impact on the make up of the finals and the top four with Richmond and North being the beneficiaries of easy draws.

Last year, Essendon snuck into the 8 on the back of a soft run late in the season and look what happened in their elimination final? 

We have a fairly tough run towards the end of the season - it could make us or break us.

[brendan 3,382]

2 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Gold Coast gave up pick 2 for Weller.

First step is firing whoever approved that.

In all seriousness, the common theme with all rubbish teams is poor list management. Jason Taylor’s influence at our club cannot be undersold.

Should have used it on Brayshaw, freo must laugh everyday about that trade 

[Elwood 3184 1,268]

12 minutes ago, brendan said:

Should have used it on Brayshaw, freo must laugh everyday about that trade 

Gold Coast coach Stuart Dew says Lachie Weller trade a good move for Suns

So Weller has played just one game this year for the Suns.

What happened?

[ProperDee 1,698]

4 hours ago, The Third Eye said:

That's gc with the million dollar man Lynch in their forward line?

He should be ashamed of himself. Pathetic attitude and not a leaders a.hole.  Wouldn't have him at my club for free. 

The measure of anyone, particularly "leaders" is how they respond to adversity. Lynch needs to inspire his team mates by displaying strength of character and leading by example. He should be coming from the field totally spent from running, chasing, contesting and tackling regardless of the scoreboard. Instead he seems to be thinking of next years bank balance. 

Poor form Tom Lynch.

 

[brendan 3,382]

7 minutes ago, ProperDee said:

He should be ashamed of himself. Pathetic attitude and not a leaders a.hole.  Wouldn't have him at my club for free. 

The measure of anyone, particularly "leaders" is how they respond to adversity. Lynch needs to inspire his team mates by displaying strength of character and leading by example. He should be coming from the field totally spent from running, chasing, contesting and tackling regardless of the scoreboard. Instead he seems to be thinking of next years bank balance. 

Poor form Tom Lynch.

 

He has clearly checked out and should not be captain

[KLV 1,633]

10 minutes ago, ProperDee said:

He should be ashamed of himself. Pathetic attitude and not a leaders a.hole.  Wouldn't have him at my club for free. 

The measure of anyone, particularly "leaders" is how they respond to adversity. Lynch needs to inspire his team mates by displaying strength of character and leading by example. He should be coming from the field totally spent from running, chasing, contesting and tackling regardless of the scoreboard. Instead he seems to be thinking of next years bank balance. 

Poor form Tom Lynch.

 

Agree 100%

[Stretch Johnson 2,568]

16 minutes ago, ProperDee said:

He should be ashamed of himself. Pathetic attitude and not a leaders a.hole.  Wouldn't have him at my club for free. 

The measure of anyone, particularly "leaders" is how they respond to adversity. Lynch needs to inspire his team mates by displaying strength of character and leading by example. He should be coming from the field totally spent from running, chasing, contesting and tackling regardless of the scoreboard. Instead he seems to be thinking of next years bank balance. 

Poor form Tom Lynch.

 

With respect to Lynch I have seen him on several occasions over the last few years be the one on the ground  who seemed to care most at that club .

It is only human to get to the point where your give a [censored] metre starts to drop.  Not saying he is right,  only that he is human.

[Blistering 492]

17 minutes ago, ProperDee said:

He should be ashamed of himself. Pathetic attitude and not a leaders a.hole.  Wouldn't have him at my club for free. 

The measure of anyone, particularly "leaders" is how they respond to adversity. Lynch needs to inspire his team mates by displaying strength of character and leading by example. He should be coming from the field totally spent from running, chasing, contesting and tackling regardless of the scoreboard. Instead he seems to be thinking of next years bank balance. 

Poor form Tom Lynch.

 

Things could be worse for Gold Coast 17. They drafted Lynch at #11 in the 2010 national draft ahead of the next most favoured key tall who they left for Melbourne to pick at #12 - one Lucas Cook.

[Pink Freud 325]

4 hours ago, alpha33 said:

There are some great threads up on Saintsational ATM, reminiscent of the dark days over here.

"Time to turn toxic"

"Has Richo lost the players?"

"Spineless Saints forfeit"

"The most hopeless st kilda team I have ever seen"

and what about this one in the middle of it all?

"Saintsational meet and greet????"

I was tempted to register and start a thread suggesting Mark Neeld was available as a replacement coach but I thought  I would end up feeling guilty about trolling a team while it's down.

I went there before and someone started a thread titled "Positives" with the OP -

hahahahahahahaha

[Whispering_Jack 27,992]

21 minutes ago, Pink Freud said:

I went there before and someone started a thread titled "Positives" with the OP -

hahahahahahahaha

They still have some thoughtful posters who won’t allow themselves to be overwhelmed by the desperation of the moment. Like this post from We’re on Track

“I think we're on track.

 

Not the same track that the club spruiked in regards to 'top 4 by 2018' etc. etc., but on track in terms of improving naturally.

 

People have made two mistakes:

 

1) Believing the club's blueprint for success

 

2) Comparing our development to Melbourne's

 

Melbourne started building back in about 2010. They have added steadily since, and have only come good now. We didn't really get going with our rebuild until 2013. 

 

To be any good, you need good old guys, really good middle age guys, and some good kids. Putting it simply.

 

In my opinion, we can't expect to be any good, until the Stevens, Ross', Bruces, Carlisles, Hickeys, etc are our old guys. We have such a void in the 'good old guys' space that it renders us useless. We had Dempster, Gilbert, Roo and Joey - now we don't. When we had those guys, we had a huge void in the 'really good middle age guys' space, and no good kids at all.

 

The way we're building, in 2-3 years these guys will be an outstanding senior core - and Billings, Gresham, Acres, Dunstan, Long, Steele, Marshall, Webster, Goddard, McCartin and co. will be a really good core of middle aged dudes. Coffield, Hunter-Clark and anyone drafted since then (including a top 3 pick this year) will be a really good crop of youngsters.

 

We will be a very good side in 2 years. Forget this year, we're playing like a team with no good senior players and heaps of injuries. Which guess what? We are.

 

Next year we will improve, and the year after we'll be really good.

 

If we can add a ready made player or two on top of this, we will be a very, very good team in 2 years. Bookmark it!”

 

Hopefully, we at Melbourne have nothing but blue skies ahead but if not, the above is a better attitude to have than the naysayers who want the coach, players and committee sacked, hung, drawn and quartered immediately. 

[Redleg 37,617]

17 hours ago, Luther said:

Correct, but you obviously do know that I meant 'was married to a woman'.

?

[Redleg 37,617]

5 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Gold Coast gave up pick 2 for Weller.

First step is firing whoever approved that.

In all seriousness, the common theme with all rubbish teams is poor list management. Jason Taylor’s influence at our club cannot be undersold.

Hard to argue that List management/Recruiting isn’t the most important part of an AFL club.