Phil Scully offered GWS gig in November 2010!

[Demon Disciple 12,068]

Nah i want a gun player myself. This whole $cully saga was a waste of time. No wonder Vlad refused to mention the word Tanking. He knew what was unfolding.

Yeah, but the chances of that happening with picks around the early-late teens is very slim. Thank christ character never came into the calculation of compensation, as we would've been lucky to get a pick within the top 100.

[Sir Why You Little 36,985]

Yeah, but the chances of that happening with picks around the early-late teens is very slim. Thank christ character never came into the calculation of compensation, as we would've been lucky to get a pick within the top 100.

Exactly why our compensation picks are nowhere near enough for what we went through. We should have GW$'s first pick.

[Whispering_Jack 29,805]

No surprise here except for the fact that the GWS offer was made in November 2010 and not October 2010 which was when the AFL's window allowing contact with uncontracted players was still open. The AFL has already connected Phil Scully's employment at GWS with son Tom's playing contract.

The fact that the offer was made outside the allowable window suggests to me that GWS breached the AFL's rules. Contact could be made in October - this offer was made in November. 

The AFL claims that integrity plays an important role in how it and it's member clubs operate. It should at least investigate this latest revelation and, if GWS breached its rules, apply appropriate sanctions.

In 2002, the AFL investigated Carlton for committing salary cap breaches on the eve of the national draft and imposed heavy sanctions which included removal of the club's high draft picks. Earlier, in the wake of the breach of salary cap rules by Melbourne, the AFL awarded Fremantle an early first round selection supposedly to compensate the Dockers for losing Jeff White.

I think an appropriate sanction here would be to strip GWS of one of its top three draft picks and award it to Melbourne to compensate it for the obvious subterfuge and lies that went on in the 12 months after the GWS approach was first made to the Scully camp. 

Of course it's not likely to happen because, as I've indicated many times, the AFL is heavily conflicted on this issue.

[Disco Demons 92]

Talk about Father-son deals!

Wasn't Scully Snr working for Sydney this year?

GWS should lose some early draft picks for this!

[Diablo Deemon 220]

There is absolutely no moral integrity in what occurred in anything that occurred.

No revelation would surprise me except that his mum hasn't signed on as well.

MFC is the winner out of this. Integrity intact, acted in good faith, supported its player, offered a sensible reasonable contract for what he deserved.

It's a sad, pathetic sordid tale.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

I wonder what Holmes is doing with himself nowadays;is he still in the AFL system?

Back on the subject, I wonder how many other documents will be leaked?

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

I think an appropriate sanction here would be to strip GWS of one of its top three draft picks and award it to Melbourne to compensate it for the obvious subterfuge and lies that went on in the 12 months after the GWS approach was first made to the Scully camp..

I completely agree with this, however as you said, the AFL is majorly conflicted. There is no way they would take away a top 3 pick from a franchise they are trying to get off the ground. Unfortunate but true, it seems as though GWS can get away with almost anything.

[Dockett 32 1,239]

It's on in earnest now. November is outside the October window if as acknowledged the father was part of the deal all along. Possible corruption at the highest level of the AFL could be very nasty for its leaders. The official digging has now begun.

A for the two concession draft picks what an insult and these must surely be reviewed.

[Satan 2,870]

The sound from the AFL will be deafening

[daisycutter 29,604]

Puts a whole new meaning on the word 'courageous'

[DeeZee 7,363]

TOM SCULLY is a LIAR!!...Im very happy now , that we dont have this scumbag with us anymore...total Kaniving scrupulous Dog!!

[Chelly 810]

Wasn't it just a few days ago that $cully "admitted turmoil within the Melbourne camp played a role in his decision to leave the Demons"?

But the turmoil happened in July/August 2011 which was long after the GWS approaches were made.

Does $cully have a crystal ball?

[Lutz 76]

Don't really see how this is irrefutable proof of Scully having agreed to anything as early as Nov 2010 - only that GWS were trying to entice him that early...

And that he lied through his teeth through 2011.

[bing181 9,194]

The fact that the offer was made outside the allowable window suggests to me that GWS breached the AFL's rules. Contact could be made in October - this offer was made in November.

The AFL claims that integrity plays an important role in how it and it's member clubs operate. It should at least investigate this latest revelation and, if GWS breached its rules, apply appropriate sanctions.

Tom was in China for at least part of October - maybe that's the real reason he returned?

Also, presumably this goes (much) further, as surely Tom's agent would have been involved in the whole deceit.

The whole episode is about as bad and as tacky as it gets. All that's missing is brown paper bags stuffed full of money.

[DirtyDees DDC 176]

So the guy they were really after was Phil!! Now i get it. GWS offered Tom $6m to come to the club, so they could hire his dad as a recruiter.

I hope Phil has 2 good knees.

[bing181 9,194]

Don't really see how this is irrefutable proof of Scully having agreed to anything as early as Nov 2010

Really? It's the smoking gun:

"This position is to commence from 1 November 2011 and will cease 31 October 2017. We look forward to you becoming part of the club."

Why would they have offered that to Tom's father, if it wasn't as a sweetner for the deal with Tom himself?

Also, be interested to know how many other AFL scouts are on $100K+ a year!

[demon-4-life 467]

Hope $cully enjoys "being out of the spotlight"

[old dee 23,781]

I was prepared to believe young TS all through last season

However the events of the last couple of months seem to suggest to me that the Scully family had a plan from draft day 2009.

He would go to the highest bidder at the end of 2011.

That just happened to be GWS.

If GWS had not existed then it would have been whoever had the biggest cheque book.

The sad part for the MFC is we got dudded and wasted a no.1 pick.

There is no other way to describe it.

I feel wounded, my faith in my fellow humans has been shaken.

Edited November 14, 2011 by old dee

[Kiss of Death 747]

Serious question, how did this guy get through psychological testing? He was supposed to be this honest hard working gut runner with incredible work ethic at draft time...

Did we draft him from Mos Eisley FC or something?

[rpfc 28,263]

He's more and more looking like a kid following his unscrupulous father.

I wonder when he will wake up one day and realise his life has been railroaded by Gubby Allan and the personal desires and ambition of his father.

I pity the kid more and more...

Edited November 14, 2011 by rpfc

[Tony Tea 2,806]

The $cully camp put off contract negotiations with Melbourne in August 2010, so it is reasonable to assume - in fact you would be naive to assume otherwise - that GWS approached $cully's people before then.

Or, to look at it from another perspective, $cully was considering leaving Melbourne a bare 10 months after joining the club at the end of 2009.

$cully's entertainment of a GWS offer last August (with the Fill $cully sweetener tossed in last November) lessens the impact of any talk about disenchantment with Melbourne over the China trip post-season 2010, club turmoil in 2011, or any other of the spurious reasons that supposedly contributed to his decision to defect to GWS, which are essentially just garnish to excuse his treason.

[Pipefitter 2,150]

Well that confirms what we already knew. How would we expect the kid to have any sort of integrity when that snake is his father. Ah god. Bring on Melb vs GWS.

[sue 9,096]

Looks like some disgruntled ex-(or current) GWS staff are leaking so I wouldn't be surprised if irrefutable evidence of $kulduggery emerges. (Yes, I agree it looks clear already, but there is nothing like documentary evidence.)

What really riles me and would make me engage in some healthy cathartic booing is $cully's recent 'courageous' and chaos at Melbourne statements. What a nerve.

Edited November 14, 2011 by sue

[jnrmac 20,055]

I wonder what Holmes is doing with himself nowadays;is he still in the AFL system?

Back on the subject, I wonder how many other documents will be leaked?

Nice segue

[Deeoldfart 8,005]

.......................................... The blatant and apparent contempt he had for my club is downright insulting. Seriously, who the f%$k does he think he is? It just disgusts me. ......................

What DD said.

This is the first time I've been moved to utter a word on here about this whole saga, but I now feel compelled to state my views. The contempt that $cully showed towards my / our club, and his total lack of respect for the many good people who unflinchingly supported him, shows just what a lowlight of an individual he really is. We are well rid of him ......... such an individual could never, ever be a team player.