Trading pick 6

[furious d 447]

Have heard this rumoured and am curious to know peoples thoughts. Personally I'd do it. I know it's not ideal to wait another year for an early pick while we're in our window but it's potentially pick 1 next year, hard to see it not being top 3 at least.

If you chose depends who is available let us know who you want in the comments.

[Fat Tony 4,414]

We would want more than a future first for #6 but we should definitely consider any trade which gives a better long-term result. 

[Bitter but optimistic 21,278]

No way! I don't see any upside to this at all. 

There will be a good player available at six - take him.

Why take a punt that could go wrong?

[Colm 1,477]

I’d be in favour of doing it if we can also improve our remaining draft hand this year. Pick 23 and maybe 37 would have to be involved.  I can see WC finishing in the bottom two again next year even if they get Reid and Curtin. 

[BDA 20,149]

Take curtin and use him as leverage when Harley Reid wants to come back to Victoria 

[Mach5 4,482]

29 minutes ago, BDA said:

Take curtin and use him as leverage when Harley Reid wants to come back to Victoria 

I know that’s a tongue-in-cheek suggestion, but it’d be seriously long play with a lot of risk involved.

If we really think Curtin is likely to draw WC’s interest to return home post-draft, shouldn’t we be strongly considering selecting him for our own benefit regardless (which I don’t think we do)?
And the inherent risk is that his exposed form on our list would only deter WC from such a trade... and us stuck with him.

Edited November 5, 2023 by Mach5

[buck_nekkid 5,491]

Would need something else back, too.  Like their 2nd rounder so we can fill our roster.

[Roger Mellie 3,504]

Who doesn't love a good death ride?

 

[Clintosaurus 6,459]

No, I want Reid. If trading rights to drafted players was a thing and WC were happy with player available at 6 then it would likely happen, but not for mine under the current rules.

[Stiff Arm 4,412]

54 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

No way! I don't see any upside to this at all. 

There will be a good player available at six - take him.

Why take a punt that could go wrong?

Agreed. Taking a good player at 6 this year means that we get a year of development into him whilst we are still in the window for 2024. And we all know windows don't stay open forever

Keep 6.

If anything, I'd offer our F1st + 11 for 7 or 8 this year. Curtain and O'Sullivan would be a great haul

[McQueen 17,864]

No.
If we can’t manufacture the Reid trade then we use 6 and hopefully get Watson now. 
 

We need to do everything we can to build a high potency forward line now whilst we have the other pieces in place. 

I also don’t think the Eagles will be much chop next year but what if they do manage a mid table finish and we end up with egg on face?

[Deemania since 56 6,144]

1 hour ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

No way! I don't see any upside to this at all. 

There will be a good player available at six - take him.

Why take a punt that could go wrong?

A player available at pick 6 is not the leader of the draft pack. There is a reason for this, most likely. It is because that player is still on a learning curve, albeit a reliably skilled fella in comparison to a pack leader who is further advanced currently and who, perhaps, has less to learn/develop at the tender age of recruits. 

To my thinking, any one player coming into the Mighty Demons team(s) and procedures has a great many Club adjustments, systems, methods, personnel (etc) to still learn (ie: not yet a largely finished product) ready for the game plan, particularly if alternative plans are to be made available within a team that has traditionally been rather pedestrian in its on-field options in recent seasons. That No. 6 new player would realise these learnings and adjustments, and be more driven to achieve new demands than one who alternatively could assume changes as automatic, relying of past successes to 'get him through to the truly reliability stage' in the big time.

Some 'kids' develop great skills; other 'kids' do the same but overlapping this development with great parenting provides exceptional skills and enhanced readiness. 

[Demon Disciple 10,993]

Not really a fan of reading pick 6.

I would however contemplate trading pick 11 + future first in exchange for the Cats pick 8 + future second.

[Little Goffy 12,593]

14 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Not really a fan of reading pick 6.

I would however contemplate trading pick 11 + future first in exchange for the Cats pick 8 + future second.

Oh, now that is an excellent death ride. And actual 'off a cliff' death ride.

If our future first is 18, and their future second is from the bottom 4, the laughs would never end.

As for pick 6; if it is Curtin we're talking about, I'd hold him and think we got lucky with the draft flow. Would be a key figure in our 2028 premiership.

[Jeremy 599]

1 hour ago, Stiff Arm said:

Agreed. Taking a good player at 6 this year means that we get a year of development into him whilst we are still in the window for 2024. And we all know windows don't stay open forever

Keep 6.

If anything, I'd offer our F1st + 11 for 7 or 8 this year. Curtain and O'Sullivan would be a great haul

Curtin and O’Sullivan? No way we’ll take two key defenders. I don’t think we’ll even take two talls. One of 6 or 11 will should be a midfielder wether it be inside/outside. Would be shocked if one of Wilson Leake or Windsor isn’t a Demon. We went tall last draft with Jefferson and Adams

[adonski 9,151]

7 minutes ago, Jeremy said:

Curtin and O’Sullivan? No way we’ll take two key defenders. I don’t think we’ll even take two talls. One of 6 or 11 will should be a midfielder wether it be inside/outside. Would be shocked if one of Wilson Leake or Windsor isn’t a Demon. We went tall last draft with Jefferson and Adams

Lotta people seem to be forgetting we brought in KPF, KPD, Ruck (rookie), Ruck (rookie) last year

[samcantstandya 921]

35 minutes ago, adonski said:

Lotta people seem to be forgetting we brought in KPF, KPD, Ruck (rookie), Ruck (rookie) last year

Curtin can play midfield Cripps from Carlton is a similar height

[Redleg 37,635]

2 hours ago, BDA said:

Take curtin and use him as leverage when Harley Reid wants to come back to Victoria 

Been reading my posts?

[Dee Viney Intervention 1,483]

Not while our Premiership window is still slightly open. We need to get in players that will be difference maker now, not waste another year of Gawn, May, Viney etc. This years pick 6 will get us a very good player.

[Dwight Schrute 16,795]

Without a shadow of a doubt, the strong likelihood is that pick would be top 2 in 2024 draft and could well be pick 1. 

the likelihood West Coast somehow improve well enough for us to not get a better return than pick 6 is very low in my view

 

[Nascent 7,287]

Can't say I'm a fan. We've done exceptionally well to get pick 5 off freo this year, can't see it being  worth a gamble to improve our draft position by a few spots next year.

West Coast are no certainties to finish bottom two next year either in my view. A large reason for their horror two years has been their injury list obliterating their player availability. While the overall list isn't in a good state, you still have Allen and Darling fwd, McGovern and Barrass back, Sheed and Kelly in the midfield with some developing talent and mix of experience around that.

They won't challenge the top 8, but with a full list and a significant home ground advantage it wouldn't surprise to seem them score 4-8 wins and finish as high as 12th. 

Throw in a potential top 3 f/s in Levi Ashcroft and we're looking at a serious possibility of our pick being equal or worse than this year. And that's before we understand if there are any free agents that may leave low clubs for high compensation or NGA and f/s talent that may establish themselves as high end prospects (welsh for ade - Camporaele twins for Carlton, Marshall for bris).

The only way I see us being keen on this swap is if we don't rate the talent that's left at pick 6 (Curtin/caddy/leake) and we want to have multiple first rounders next year to trade for an established player which we may be engaged in conversations with now (JUH/King/McCluggage etc)

[Ethan Tremblay 28,423]

Gross. No. 

[adonski 9,151]

Gimme the box!

[Nascent 7,287]

7 minutes ago, adonski said:

Gimme the box!

 

Think someone posted this a while ago but could be very apt for this situation.

Edited November 5, 2023 by Nascent

[2021 130]

As fun as it would be to death ride WC, I don’t think there is any chance we would trade out pick 6. I think we would be more likely to trade up somehow, with this years picks, and potentially any future picks.