Yze gets the Tigers Coaching Job

[58er 4,709]

5 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

this is basically incomprehensible

i think it's a whole-of-approach thing - blaming goodwin or stafford or yze in isolation isn't offering a solution

So what is your solution ? Who has to accept responsibility for the forward mess over the last 2 years?

Glen Bartlett ??? 

[dazzledavey36 46,596]

Really do hope he gets the Richmond coaching gig.

[Demonsterative 1,292]

10 minutes ago, 58er said:

So what is your solution ? Who has to accept responsibility for the forward mess over the last 2 years?

Glen Bartlett ??? 

Why not Glen? 
 

I blame Richmond for taking Oozes mind off his job. 
 

🤔

[whatwhat say what 17,068]

1 hour ago, 58er said:

So what is your solution ? Who has to accept responsibility for the forward mess over the last 2 years?

Glen Bartlett ??? 

what bartlett has to do with anything i have no idea but i presume you were being facetious / idiotic

my preferred solution would be that we need some fresh approaches particularly in the midfield and forward set-ups both from a coaching and personnel perspective

gawn, oliver, petracca are generational players, yet we still lose contested football and clearances, our next tier down is viney and brayshaw, after that it's sparrow and...not much, with landgon and hunter the mainstays on the wings

we need some fresh ideas and a different approach to the midfield mix, and that begins with the person responsible for getting the best of them to work cohesively together and to deliver the ball i50 with some modicum of enterprise and not the panic that we see settle in whenever we are placed under sustained pressure

in terms of forward structure, if stafford stays in the role he's going to be working with a completely different set-up in 2024 with petty likely to be the #1 tall forward in the set-up, assisted by a second senior year for jvr, the experience of fritsch and anb, and the pressure forwards in kozi and chandler

i would like to see some significant change in coaching support, as yze and stafford have been goodwin's primary assistants since the 2021 pre-season, while chaplin has been with the dees since the 2017 pre-season

i am all-in on getting harley reid if that's what tim lamb and jason taylor think is the best option for our future mid-forward combo player, which is ultimately what seems to be the key to winning premierships in modern football (bontempelli, neck tatts, petracca, dangerfield)

[Demons1858 1,607]

Part of the issue is Oliver bombs and lacks creativity and we become predictable ... when he was out this didn't happen as much

[JimmyGadson 3,345]

11 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

Part of the issue is Oliver bombs and lacks creativity and we become predictable ... when he was out this didn't happen as much

A habit that so many one eyed supporters miss in their gushing over him. 

It's the kind of habit that just kills us and just completely undoes all of that mesmerising contest work. 

Part of this habit is actually technique. If you watch him kick whilst on the run under little pressure, he kicks the ball across his body instead of hips facing leading player. This often results in a shallow and high trajectory kick that is almost always advantageous to defenders. It's really really bad and nobody talks about it. 

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7 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

A habit that so many one eyed supporters miss in their gushing over him. 

It's the kind of habit that just kills us and just completely undoes all of that mesmerising contest work. 

Part of this habit is actually technique. If you watch him kick whilst on the run under little pressure, he kicks the ball across his body instead of hips facing leading player. This often results in a shallow and high trajectory kick that is almost always advantageous to defenders. It's really really bad and nobody talks about it. 

You do Big Fella and you’re my go to for fun facts.

[Neil Crompton 3,953]

8 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

A habit that so many one eyed supporters miss in their gushing over him. 

It's the kind of habit that just kills us and just completely undoes all of that mesmerising contest work. 

Part of this habit is actually technique. If you watch him kick whilst on the run under little pressure, he kicks the ball across his body instead of hips facing leading player. This often results in a shallow and high trajectory kick that is almost always advantageous to defenders. It's really really bad and nobody talks about it. 

How about we trade him then Jimmy? We can't have someone who continuously "kills us". I'm sure we could con another team into taking such a defective player. 

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23 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

How about we trade him then Jimmy? We can't have someone who continuously "kills us". I'm sure we could con another team into taking such a defective player. 

Would you trade him for a Oscar Allen and pick 1?

[Its Time for Another 3,816]

11 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

A habit that so many one eyed supporters miss in their gushing over him. 

It's the kind of habit that just kills us and just completely undoes all of that mesmerising contest work. 

Part of this habit is actually technique. If you watch him kick whilst on the run under little pressure, he kicks the ball across his body instead of hips facing leading player. This often results in a shallow and high trajectory kick that is almost always advantageous to defenders. It's really really bad and nobody talks about it. 

The most frustrating thing about this is he has shown in the past that when he chooses to he is an excellent kick of low trajectory passes to leading players. Hope springs eternal. 

[Its Time for Another 3,816]

On 8/25/2023 at 9:51 AM, Gunna’s said:

If Yze is successful, what is everyone’s thoughts on Stuart Dew replacing him as the midfield line coach?

Don't know why no one responded. He was incredibly highly regarded at the Swans. Back when I was coaching juniors I attended a coaches session put on by the Swans and the stuff he did was transformative. They credited him with developing a whole philosophy they had adopted and then he developed training exercises to execute it. It was very simple, clear and easy enough to teach to juniors.

I will say though that I love the idea of Ratten as midfield coach although he seems to have made it clear he is stepping away from footy for a while. I thought the best our midfield ever operated was when he was the midfield coach, even though that was quite a few years ago now.  

 

[Demonsone 1,455]

Interviewed on 3aw.

Can’t play audio does anyone know what he said??

Edited September 18 by Grapeviney

[whatwhat say what 17,068]

On 9/13/2023 at 12:19 PM, Its Time for Another said:

Don't know why no one responded. He was incredibly highly regarded at the Swans. Back when I was coaching juniors I attended a coaches session put on by the Swans and the stuff he did was transformative. They credited him with developing a whole philosophy they had adopted and then he developed training exercises to execute it. It was very simple, clear and easy enough to teach to juniors.

I will say though that I love the idea of Ratten as midfield coach although he seems to have made it clear he is stepping away from footy for a while. I thought the best our midfield ever operated was when he was the midfield coach, even though that was quite a few years ago now.  

 

would happily have dew if yze gets the tigs job

[beelzebub 21,847]

54 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

would happily have dew if yze gets the tigs job

as would I....but is it a peculair scenarion then.... Dew was set to get the top job until nobbled by Colless...

[demon3165 1,574]

2 hours ago, Demonsone said:

Interviewed on 3aw.

Can’t play audio does anyone know what he said??

You have to wait till there is  a break at 1/4, 1/2 or 3/4 time.

[BaliDemon 397]

I get that you’ve got to grasp opportunities when they present but I reckon Ooze would be smarter to bide his time a bit longer and opt out of the Richmond job. Their prospects over the next 3-5 years are the least enticing of all sides outside the current top eight imo, but they’re yet to fully face that reality. Like Ross Lyon when he ditched the Saints after their golden run in the 2000’s and Clarko when he left the Hawks, Richmond have overplayed their hand and have a list set to nosedive. The next Tigers coach will come under a heap of pressure with 24 months and will likely just ‘fill the seat’ until they hit full on bottom out phase. 
 

Keep your powder dry Ooze. Something better will come along. 

[Demons1858 1,607]

Senior AFL coaching opportunities are very rare. He has applied and if he gets offered the job will rightly go to the tigers who are well managed, resourced and back their staff in. The current list isn't great but that's about making sure expectations are aligned 

Edited September 18 by Demons1858

[Dr. Gonzo 21,767]

On 8/25/2023 at 9:51 AM, Gunna’s said:

If Yze is successful, what is everyone’s thoughts on Stuart Dew replacing him as the midfield line coach?

100% he should be our target

[Kent 2,313]

On 9/13/2023 at 1:01 AM, JimmyGadson said:

A habit that so many one eyed supporters miss in their gushing over him. 

It's the kind of habit that just kills us and just completely undoes all of that mesmerising contest work. 

Part of this habit is actually technique. If you watch him kick whilst on the run under little pressure, he kicks the ball across his body instead of hips facing leading player. This often results in a shallow and high trajectory kick that is almost always advantageous to defenders. It's really really bad and nobody talks about it. 

one of the worst Kicks in the league but he is a Demons superstar

[Wells 11 4,356]

Yze has been great for us and last year I was fearful of him leaving. This year I feel we almost need the change...and thats not putting any blame on him either. It just feels like we cant just go around again after 2 years of straight set exits. Fresh voices and ideas needed. 

[JimmyGadson 3,345]

Hope he gets it.

For both our sake and his.

We're at a point where we need an injection of new coaches with ideas that will challenge Goody's and breathe some new life and motivation into the group.

If we hit next year like we have the last two, we may as well give it away.

It's clear that our 'system' will only take us so far. Our 21' finals run was pure momentum but that entire home and away season was full of the same issues that we still see in this side today.

 

[Ferghus31 39]

If Adam gets the Tigers gig i would replace him with Trent Cotchin and Daisy Pearce make them responsible for Midfield and onballers  get Stewart Dew as Forward Coach make  Mark Stinnear our Assistant coach i am very impressed with him he has an amazing ability to read the game unlike Goodwin he listens to others .

Finally lure Phil Davis for backline all of these replace all other Coaches except Williams

[Swooper1987 2,628]

It's a shame Jordan Lewis is so entrenched in the media. He'd be an excellent coach.

[Brownie 4,713]

20 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

would happily have dew if yze gets the tigs job

I'd bring in Dew and Stinnear

[Superunknown 3,144]

29 minutes ago, Brownie said:

I'd bring in Dew and Stinnear

What Brownie said.