Brisbane Pair Stand Down Amid Poor Form

[binman 38,745]

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I know many posters can't stand David King, but the footage he and his team provided on AFL360 last night was damning for Daniel Rich from a defensive stand point.

Can barely get out of a jog when the Lions don't have the ball.

Gunstan's form has been extremely underwhelming for a bloke of his ilk.

 

I don't like much of King's analysis (as i think i might have noted previously - i'll have to check), but he mixes some average analysis with some really good stuff.

In particular his use of video is terrific, as per the Rich example. I think that plays to his strengths, which  is knowing footy from a playing and/or coaching perspective and being able to articulate key issues (as opposed to analysis using data as a foundation).

That's his strength - and he has shown lots of genuinely really interesting footage and he uses it really well to make a point - often about set us, structures or pointedly individual player weaknesses or issues.

I love the down the ground footage, and how he uses it, and would love if that is what he focused on. 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,493]

3 minutes ago, binman said:

I don't like much of King's analysis (as i think i might have noted previously - i'll have to check), but he mixes some average analysis with some really good stuff.

In particular his use of video is terrific, as per the Rich example. I think that plays to his strengths, which  is knowing footy from a playing and/or coaching perspective and being able to articulate key issues (as opposed to analysis using data as a foundation).

That's his strength - and he has shown lots of genuinely really interesting footage and he uses it really well to make a point - often about set us, structures or pointedly individual player weaknesses or issues.

I love the down the ground footage, and how he uses it, and would love if that is what he focused on. 

Genuine question: Has David King ever coached?

[layzie 29,129]

6 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Genuine question: Has David King ever coached?

Think he was one of Dimma's or possibly even Plough's assistants at Richmond.

[Rab D Nesbitt 7,292]

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Fascinating and indicative of how things are changing in professional sports.

Was watching On the Couch and they were discussing coaches taking a 3-4 week break mid season just to relieve pressure.

Longer seasons bring with it more issues.

A small matter is the MFC bye. Physically it's a good rest but mentally it's not even a 7 day break.

Hi DJ. I was surprised to read this. I've always considered an AFL season to be pretty short. Same with NFL. In Europe, football coaches / managers oversee 10 month long seasons and they might get 4 weeks off between them. They are almost always just a few bad games away from being sacked. Man City just finished a season in which they played 60 games over 4 different competitions that included a lot of travelling to the continent in the Champions League and games every 3-4 days over those 10 months. 

[beelzebub 22,244]

I'll just get some Red, a cheese platter and watch  whatever unfolds. 

No idea what's playing out here.

Something's bound to fall through a crack and roll out into view.

A bit odd 🤷

 

[daisycutter 28,630]

16 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Hi DJ. I was surprised to read this. I've always considered an AFL season to be pretty short. Same with NFL. In Europe, football coaches / managers oversee 10 month long seasons and they might get 4 weeks off between them. They are almost always just a few bad games away from being sacked. Man City just finished a season in which they played 60 games over 4 different competitions that included a lot of travelling to the continent in the Champions League and games every 3-4 days over those 10 months. 

big difference, rab between a non-contact sport and a contact sport

[rpfc 27,570]

52 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Didn't Adem Yze 'drop' himself at one stage? 

Yes he did. After 226 consecutive games. The media created a narrative around him ‘counting his games’ and it being a distraction. Dumb all around

[Rab D Nesbitt 7,292]

3 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

big difference, rab between a non-contact sport and a contact sport

Yeah, but not for a coach daisycutter. 

[DubDee 20,950]

they pulled a Jack Watts!

[daisycutter 28,630]

2 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Yeah, but not for a coach daisycutter. 

true dat

[John Crow Batty 8,272]

Gunston 32 years old and Rich 33 years old. I say more of a case these guys reaching their use by date with age related form and injuries. Still an odd thing to do. I’d say it’s by arrangement with the coaches and selectors to avoid the indignity of once great players being dropped for the majority or entirety of the remaining season. 

 

Edited June 15, 2023 by John Crow Batty

[GCDee 3,046]

Sure drop yourself… but not play VFL either?? 
how do they expect to regain form without playing, something is really off here. 

[Engorged Onion 9,392]

Did Jack Watts drop himself - and get lambasted? Or do I recall that incorrectly?

Edited June 15, 2023 by Engorged Onion

[jumbo returns 6,504]

32 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Did Jack Watts drop himself - and get lambasted? Or do I recall that incorrectly?

It's Jack Watts!

All of the above :)

[DubDee 20,950]

58 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Did Jack Watts drop himself - and get lambasted? Or do I recall that incorrectly?

yep he was playing poorly but not getting dropped so he put his hand up to get some form back. 

[Freddy Fuschia 666]

4 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

gunston in particular doesn't look like he can get out of a jog at the moment

I reckon you could say much the same about half the Carlton side at the moment.

[Demonland 65,836]

3 hours ago, binman said:

In particular his use of video is terrific, as per the Rich example.

I'm willing to bet the house he is not the one selecting which footage to talk about.

[jnrmac 19,128]

4 hours ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Says a lot about the club if the players are dropping themselves

Jack Watts dropped himself

[buck_nekkid 5,511]

Two strikes???

[Roger Mellie 3,536]

Rich and Gunston are listed as 'Managed' tonight with the release of the teams. FFS if they have dropped themselves, they're omitted. Is this to make them feel better about it or is it as Buck suggests above - a six week 'management' program?

[Jaded No More 58,490]

1 hour ago, buck_nekkid said:

Two strikes???

In the same week? Seems odd

[Demonstone 19,376]

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,027]

Wonder what the effect, if any, is on their earnings.

[Wizard of Koz 955]

10 hours ago, Demonland said:

I'm willing to bet the house he is not the one selecting which footage to talk about.

Regarding David King, I am disturbed by his limited vocabulary. It is disheartening to see him repeatedly employ phrases like "bashed em up" without any regard for the gravity of such acts. This constant repetition not only demonstrates laziness on his part but also shows a lack of empathy for families who have tragically lost loved ones due to senseless violence.

This neanderthal-like behaviour with him seemingly reviling in the act of describing someone being brutally assaulted is a sad indictment on him.

Edited June 15, 2023 by Wizard of Koz
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[deanox 8,692]

10 hours ago, Roger Mellie said:

Rich and Gunston are listed as 'Managed' tonight with the release of the teams. FFS if they have dropped themselves, they're omitted. Is this to make them feel better about it or is it as Buck suggests above - a six week 'management' program?

My guess is it's to do with match payments.

While contracts will vary, players that are omitted are unlikely to get match payments, while in many cases players who are injured (and therefore unable to play) can continue to receive match payments.