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GRAND FINAL: Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs


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The past 8 @AFL Grand Finals (and 11 of the last 13) have been won by the side that polled fewer Brownlow votes earlier that week

Brownlow votes polled in 2021

96 - MELB

85 - WBD

 

flip a coin you might get the same result ?

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7 hours ago, Demon Marty said:

 

The past 8 @AFL Grand Finals (and 11 of the last 13) have been won by the side that polled fewer Brownlow votes earlier that week

Brownlow votes polled in 2021

96 - MELB

85 - WBD

 

flip a coin you might get the same result ?

This is just a random stat that has no meaning. It’s like the roulette wheel landing on black 5 times a row, and people drawing the conclusion it’ll definitely land on black again.

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2 hours ago, 3183 Dee said:

My MFCSS has kicked in now:I can’t help but think that we may come out a little flat after the extended break - may be a week too much for us? 

They will not come out flat.  They are too well prepared this year.  They are fit, strong and hungry.  They feel us, the fans.  They're locked in.  They wont be [censored] flat in this grand final.  I was struck by the business like, quiet focus, and professional nature of Melbourne in the rooms before and after the geelong prelim game, even the Brisbane game as well.  I've so much faith in the Melbourne way right now.  

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Dogs have a really big decision to make around the ruck. English will get monstered in the middle, Martin can't go with Gawn or Jackson around the ground, are they actually going to get enough out of Martin in the side? Gawn is on a whole different planet to Lycett. 

i've been taking a good look at the Dogs recent form as well, and what i've noticed is in the past 6 weeks, the dogs are kicking very few, bread and butter goals. certainly not enough to score 100 points which they'll need to to win, they've scored 100 points twice, once against Port Adelaide who didn't show up, and had to just attack to try and make something out of the game. and once against a very tired Crows side. 

on the other hand, our scoring is comfortably the best it's been all year, and we're winning it out of the middle a lot more, so we've improved to the point a melbourne game looks a bit different but we haven't actually lost our strength 

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12 hours ago, Chook said:

Used to be $2 in the mid-2000s I'm sure.

That was expensive for me back then. Can't imagine how young kids from poor families could afford a footy record these days.

Season by season, watching the price of a relatively useless 'Football Record' rise to more than a can of beer or a hot dog/pie has turned me off ever buying one again. I know my team, I know the jumper numbers, I commit to memory the week by week selections.  The 'Record is a thing of the past, just like free Showbags and samples.

 

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33 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

Dogs have a really big decision to make around the ruck. English will get monstered in the middle, Martin can't go with Gawn or Jackson around the ground, are they actually going to get enough out of Martin in the side? Gawn is on a whole different planet to Lycett. 

i've been taking a good look at the Dogs recent form as well, and what i've noticed is in the past 6 weeks, the dogs are kicking very few, bread and butter goals. certainly not enough to score 100 points which they'll need to to win, they've scored 100 points twice, once against Port Adelaide who didn't show up, and had to just attack to try and make something out of the game. and once against a very tired Crows side. 

on the other hand, our scoring is comfortably the best it's been all year, and we're winning it out of the middle a lot more, so we've improved to the point a melbourne game looks a bit different but we haven't actually lost our strength 

There is a remote chance that most of us could be wrong - ie: the Dogs are primed to 'go' against us.

Common sense tells us all that what you state (above) is correct - we are primed to 'slaughter' the Dogs.

I'd reckon we will finish the game (and the Dogs) with a lead of around six goals.

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I haven’t felt pumped or nervous until I woke up this morning. It’s officially grand final week. It feels real now. My doggie supporting friends have been telling me it’s theirs for sure. I’m starting to see some arrogance from dogs fans and that’s surprises me as I’ve never seen them in that way.

LETS BRING THIS CUP HOME! 

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1 minute ago, Deemania since 56 said:

There is a remote chance that most of us could be wrong - ie: the Dogs are primed to 'go' against us.

Common sense tells us all that what you state (above) is correct - we are primed to 'slaughter' the Dogs.

I'd reckon we will finish the game (and the Dogs) with a lead of around six goals.

I don't think we will "Slaughter" the dogs, i think it's going to be a competitive match for sure, 

I just think over 4 quarters we should have more run in our legs, and i actually think we look more potent offensively than they do, and our backline is much more capable of stopping their forwards than the other way around. 

It feels as though for the Dogs to win, they'd have to be playing at their absolute best and we'd have to be a touch off. 

round 19 they kicked 6 goals i believe it was from stoppages, they only scored another 7 goals in total for the game, you could bet your house we wouldn't allow that to happen again in a grand final, and even with us being that defensively off, they arguably only won due to our inaccuracy. this time around they also won't have Josh Bruce, which makes our backline an even bigger headache for them. 

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11 hours ago, Demonland said:

Look away @Jaded

 

Meaningless stats! Maybe a more useful one I found from 2019, is all the previous 10 premiers ranked in top 5 of each of the stats below.  I suspect it continued with Richmond in 2019 and 2020. I can't find 2021 F50 ground ball gets or points scored from forward half, but I am sure we would easily be top 5 for both, and probably #1 or #2.

Score differential from turnover Demons #2  Dogs #1 (by 0.3 of a point, probably inflated with a few of the dogs mauling's of other teams early in the year)

Opp scores per inside 50 Demons #1 (best ever) Dogs #11 <<<<<<--------

Post clearance contested possession Demons #1 Dogs #4

Forward 50 groundballs 

Points scored from forward half (turnovers + stoppages) 

The Dogs are ranked #18 (last) in defensive one on ones lost (at 31%).  Rounds 12-23 they were so bad that #18 was a no contest (36% lost). That is a huge stat for us to exploit.  The weather in Tasmania, Brisbane without Hipwood, McStay and Daniher (even though he was on the ground), and Port just not turning up have meant no-one in the media is talking about their biggest weakness.

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14 hours ago, Jaded said:

$15!!!! 
I remember buying these with loose change from the train ticket. 
Is this made of gold paper or something?

You could hang around Woolies carpark and try to make $15 from left over coins in the trolley bays.....

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7 hours ago, 3183 Dee said:

My MFCSS has kicked in now:I can’t help but think that we may come out a little flat after the extended break - may be a week too much for us? 

If it assists, we had an extended break after the 2020 season, then we won 9 in a row at the start of this season (at least that’s what I am telling myself) 

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