Training - Wednesday November 19, 2014

[Its Time for Another 4,223]

They have been doing that since Misso started I believe. They also detail how many hours sleep they had each night and a bit of other stuff.

This type of recording has very limited use. It's actually much better not to use it at all. Just ask Essendon. When it comes to drug injection regimes of over 15,000 injections it just doesn't seem to work. So it's much better not to keep records at all. That's what a Club with one of the biggest Football Dept spends does.

[Red and Bluebeard 2,084]

Grimes is smart.

Ok I am giving up carbs. Do bread and pasta count?

Bet you hope that bananas don't ...

[Deemotivated 550]

Does anyone know if this is the Paleo diet. I've heard great things about it.

Low carb high fat diet is slightly different to paleo.

[timD 994]

Just to show how professional it is now was speaking to a Demonland reader who said I should repeat these bits

Each morning the players text how they are feeling, ie sore, sick, injured, fine, etc etc, at the end of a training session they are asked to rate how they found it, on a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being easy, most today rated it an 8

Clubs were doing this decades ago. It is old. Doesn't mean it is bad. But it is nothing new at all. Daniel Harford spoke about doing these things at hawthorn and carlton, and Grant Thomas was roundly rubbished for introducing it at the Saints.

What is sad is that it's new to us. Like my mum being amazed at a smart phone.

[DeeSpencer 25,713]

Clubs were doing this decades ago. It is old. Doesn't mean it is bad. But it is nothing new at all. Daniel Harford spoke about doing these things at hawthorn and carlton, and Grant Thomas was roundly rubbished for introducing it at the Saints.

What is sad is that it's new to us. Like my mum being amazed at a smart phone.

It's not though. Dave Misson has been doing it for ages and probably the old fitness guys were doing some form of it.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

It's not though. Dave Misson has been doing it for ages and probably the old fitness guys were doing some form of it.

I remember hearing Melbourne doing this years ago, nothing new,.

[chook fowler 19,459]

Low carb high fat diet is slightly different to paleo.

Sort of like a Big Mac without the buns.

[Deemotivated 550]

Sort of like a Big Mac without the buns.

Hahahahaha Yep. Kind of.

[old dee 23,792]

Sort of like a Big Mac without the buns.

Not sure where that would leave one Mr. Grimes

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Drones are far more subtle than those black helicopters that are always following me around.

Are they in your head, too?

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Tappy not training?

What else is new?

[Arrow 1,257]

Tappy not training?

What else is new?

I understand they were expecting him there Monday and he no-showed, and than did the same again today. Wouldn't expect to see him at many from now on..

A lot of players seem quite burned out at the club.. I'm sure it's a mixture of both personal frustration at not being good enough and the environment of the MFC but the few anecdotes I've heard recently suggest we still do have a way to go on a welfare level. Byrnes might be a handy hire, and it does seem to explain some of the Clark scenario.. Regardless sorry for going off track the first part re Tapscott does apply!

[jumbo returns 6,741]

I understand they were expecting him there Monday and he no-showed, and than did the same again today. Wouldn't expect to see him at many from now on..

A lot of players seem quite burned out at the club.. I'm sure it's a mixture of both personal frustration at not being good enough and the environment of the MFC but the few anecdotes I've heard recently suggest we still do have a way to go on a welfare level. Byrnes might be a handy hire, and it does seem to explain some of the Clark scenario.. Regardless sorry for going off track the first part re Tapscott does apply!

Follow where you're coming from, but LT was another wasted pick, another VFL standard player on the list.

[Cards13 9,117]

I understand they were expecting him there Monday and he no-showed, and than did the same again today. Wouldn't expect to see him at many from now on..

A lot of players seem quite burned out at the club.. I'm sure it's a mixture of both personal frustration at not being good enough and the environment of the MFC but the few anecdotes I've heard recently suggest we still do have a way to go on a welfare level. Byrnes might be a handy hire, and it does seem to explain some of the Clark scenario.. Regardless sorry for going off track the first part re Tapscott does apply!

Saty going to be on to you...

When you say a lot of players are burned out at the club do you mean current of former players? If current maybe you need to let the powers that be know so they can asses these players and try to help them.

[Whispering_Jack 30,173]

On the matter of the new diet, I heard somewhere that Port Adelaide has been doing much the same thing for the last two seasons. If that's the case, then I hope we can replicate the same results on the field over the next couple of seasons.

[buck_nekkid 5,866]

Thanks for answering the diet question, Saty, it confirms what I had heard. Interesting that some love it and others think it is bananas...

I have heard that Port Adelaide led the way, and loved the results. What seems different now is the acceptability from a physiological point of view, rather than it being a 'diet' fad.

Changing topic, Tapscott as a double no show does not look good for his future with us. Maybe someone else has whispered in his ear...

[beelzebub 23,377]

Doesnt sound that dissimilar to the Dukan diet

[daisycutter 29,616]

On the matter of the new diet, I heard somewhere that Port Adelaide has been doing much the same thing for the last two seasons. If that's the case, then I hope we can replicate the same results on the field over the next couple of seasons.

yes, but just as long as we don't inject this new diet with needles

[Roger Mellie 4,032]

Google 'Ketogenic Diet' and you'll get all the info you need

[Pates 9,660]

Whilst I'm not the biggest Neeld fan. I know for a fact Neeld had these im place aswell.

Neeld was a poor manager of men, and clearly not the brilliant coach everyone had him pegged for, but there is zero doubt in my mind he raised the standard of training in his time at Melbourne. 99% of the people on here hate the bloke, but that is something we should be thankful for.

Great to hear the boys have returned in good nick, Toumpas will be my one to watch in 2015 (aside from Hulk Hogan of course!). Really want him to do well.

[Demon trucker 1,800]

I remember hearing Melbourne doing this years ago, nothing new,.

As king Solomon said there is nothing new under the sun.

[rjay 24,929]

Thanks for answering the diet question, Saty, it confirms what I had heard. Interesting that some love it and others think it is bananas...

I have heard that Port Adelaide led the way, and loved the results. What seems different now is the acceptability from a physiological point of view, rather than it being a 'diet' fad.

Changing topic, Tapscott as a double no show does not look good for his future with us. Maybe someone else has whispered in his ear...

I think it still has a way to go before being totally accepted, there are still many sceptics in the science and medical fraternity.

It definitely looks to give good results in performance and weight loss but the long term effects are not known.

Remember the previous diets athletes have been on were supposedly well researched and proven, now they have been turned on their heads. The diets that is...

Edited November 19, 2014 by rjay

[jackaub 1,402]

Bet you hope that bananas don't ...

I hope Grimes lack of strength in the contest is not a result of his dietary regime If so "change your diet or take up another sport"

[chookrat 4,250]

Yeah its a great diet but as you say its a bit hard to maintain. I've found I have to prepare meals days in advance or even cook and freeze foods.

Abundant energy, eating less and no hunger cravings. Weight loss is steady.

One dietitian told me it was ridiculous and another pushed me to it. PTs at my gym swear by it.

Let me guess. The dietitian who said it was ridiculous pulled out a food pyramid sponsored by Sanotarium.

[chookrat 4,250]

I understand they were expecting him there Monday and he no-showed, and than did the same again today. Wouldn't expect to see him at many from now on..

A lot of players seem quite burned out at the club.. I'm sure it's a mixture of both personal frustration at not being good enough and the environment of the MFC but the few anecdotes I've heard recently suggest we still do have a way to go on a welfare level. Byrnes might be a handy hire, and it does seem to explain some of the Clark scenario.. Regardless sorry for going off track the first part re Tapscott does apply!

This is understandable given we are on our third rebuild and despite improving last year we won only 4 games and finished the year poorly, not to mention the instability at Casey and issues with the coach. The positive news is that these areas are being addressed, e.g. Bringing in some fresh experienced players, valuing clubman types to develop culture and player welfare, e.g. Byrnes, Cross, Goodwin, Miller, and strengthening our Casey alignment by appointing Plapp.

Ultimately we need to start winning games but what is heartening is that our Club isnt shying away from the problems and is acting competently and deliberately to address them. The rest is up to the playing group.