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With the extra day off and saints playing in the wet I think dees will run all over the saints. When is the last time we started a year 2 and 0

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Wtf? Jetta was actually good today. He won a number of critical one on ones.

JOnes and Jetta will not and should not be dropped. Jetta won a lot of 1:1s today and was very solid down Back

For what? 2 goals 1, 2nd most score involvements, 6 marks, his pressure and contest work was all improved if not decent, nailed a couple of tackles. All against a very strong Freo backline. The breeze

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57 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Further to your comment Werridee, I notice Vanders has been singled out as one of our best players in the last 2 VFL practice games - so I would imagine he is busting down the door to be selected.

In his presser Goodwin made a comment which suggested that AVB Hibbo & Melksham not in the mix this week

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21 minutes ago, Garbo said:

With the extra day off and saints playing in the wet I think dees will run all over the saints. When is the last time we started a year 2 and 0

In 2017. We beat St Kilda at Marvel and then Carlton at the MCG. A most impressive start under Goodwin.

Then lost the next 3.

I think St Kilda are made of the right stuff this year and a bit of adversity such as backing up from the wet weather on a 6 day break won't bother them.

 

 

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Be interesting to see how we go without Harmes butchering the ball with every possession.

Oh wait it will just be someone else butchering the ball with every possession.

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1 hour ago, Garbo said:

With the extra day off and saints playing in the wet I think dees will run all over the saints. When is the last time we started a year 2 and 0

2017, which is also the last time we won in roud one at all.

Prior to that you have to go back to 2005.

Record in first two rounds between 2006-2016 (inclusive) = 2 wins, 1 draw, 17 losses.

Coincidentally, St Kilda featured in 2017 pair of wins as well as ending the 3-game winning run to start 2015 when I believe it was Brent Guerra drove Cameron Bruce's shoulder into the ground at the first bounce with a late spear tackle that would get you about 14 weeks suspension now and was clearly done on coaches instructions. Hard to believe but Bruce was the absolute in-form player of the AFL at the start of 2005, and we were the in-form team. 53 goals in three games.  Mind blowing

Oh, I'm fired up for the game now.

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1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

In 2017. We beat St Kilda at Marvel and then Carlton at the MCG. A most impressive start under Goodwin.

Then lost the next 3.

I think St Kilda are made of the right stuff this year and a bit of adversity such as backing up from the wet weather on a 6 day break won't bother them.

Damn I remember that, I remembered thinking to myself “we beat the Saints then we make finals”. Sadly we were still Melbourne, losing to the Roos twice in tight games and Fremantle at home. 

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12 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

2017, which is also the last time we won in roud one at all.

Prior to that you have to go back to 2005.

Record in first two rounds between 2006-2016 (inclusive) = 2 wins, 1 draw, 17 losses.

Coincidentally, St Kilda featured in 2017 pair of wins as well as ending the 3-game winning run to start 2015 when I believe it was Brent Guerra drove Cameron Bruce's shoulder into the ground at the first bounce with a late spear tackle that would get you about 14 weeks suspension now and was clearly done on coaches instructions. Hard to believe but Bruce was the absolute in-form player of the AFL at the start of 2005, and we were the in-form team. 53 goals in three games.  Mind blowing

Oh, I'm fired up for the game now.

Lmao since 2000 i knew it was bad 1st rounds but that is crazy! Sell us hope this year Demons! 

Have the feeling we going to come out blazing on a fast circuit and big crowd...Melbourne by 4 goals.  St Kilda have plenty of weaknesses, should be a cracker! Kossie to have an absolutely blinder, delighting fans and media alike!

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3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yes and no Jacko.

The reason why Jones is playing is because no one at VFL is exactly banging down the door to replace him. You don't want players playing just for the sake that they're younger and need games. I'd rather our players earning their spot instead of being gifted just for the sake of it.

I would like to think the likes of Laurie, Bedford, Bowey can really play some significant football down at Casey to the point where they overtake Jones in the senior side.

Dazzle this line of sensibility has no place in a Demonland forum!  I would ask that you refrain from any further posts along similar lines.

I for one am used to seeing 8 to 10 rookies running out most weeks of most seasons, further increasing our chances of losing and continuing to break losing records as we maintain our decades long push for a place outside the eight (more often than not!).

Last week we only fielded 6 rookies.  The Dockers instead fielded 9.  .

And then we had the audacity to field 10 experienced players who had 100 games or more under their belt vs the Dockers 4.  Deesgraceful selection form on our part.

Nothing wrong with remaining mediocre and irrelevant is there!?  How anyone would anyone want to improve our chances of winning by doing otherwise is just baffling.

All power to blooding as many green  youngsters as possible every year i say.

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3 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

In 2017. We beat St Kilda at Marvel and then Carlton at the MCG. A most impressive start under Goodwin.

Then lost the next 3.

I think St Kilda are made of the right stuff this year and a bit of adversity such as backing up from the wet weather on a 6 day break won't bother them.

 

 

We were sitting front row or 2 at the saints game that year. It was such a great, happy start to the season. We called big Max over as the team ran around high five-ing the crowd after the game, and took a photo of him giving my Mum a cuddle. I’d post it but it might out me 😎

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4 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

2017, which is also the last time we won in roud one at all.

Prior to that you have to go back to 2005.

Record in first two rounds between 2006-2016 (inclusive) = 2 wins, 1 draw, 17 losses.

Coincidentally, St Kilda featured in 2017 pair of wins as well as ending the 3-game winning run to start 2015 when I believe it was Brent Guerra drove Cameron Bruce's shoulder into the ground at the first bounce with a late spear tackle that would get you about 14 weeks suspension now and was clearly done on coaches instructions. Hard to believe but Bruce was the absolute in-form player of the AFL at the start of 2005, and we were the in-form team. 53 goals in three games.  Mind blowing

Oh, I'm fired up for the game now.

I remember our 2005 start well. From memory Bruce had 9 brownlow votes after 3 games and was the hottest player in the comp. He never came bk to the same level after that spear tackle and I’m not sure we quite found the same spark as a team after that loss either. 

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8 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I think St Kilda are made of the right stuff this year and a bit of adversity such as backing up from the wet weather on a 6 day break won't bother them.

It can't help them. I imagine they won't have that extra time to work on deficiencies and their muscle could feel the burn.

Possibly made a bit more difficult since it is the start of the season. If mid year I may agree.

We had better get our act together. They look like a team that will punish turnovers. A real test for our backline.

King is a difficult match up. Will need lots of body contact so he can't get a run at it.

Viney should make a difference to the mids, he has a unique connection with Gawn. Hoping he plays smart as well as tough. At least he will help at the stoppage contests and hopefully win some clearances with Oliver and Sparrow (if selected). 

Picket is getting closer, a little bit more experience and he will take those marks and be less fumbly.

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11 hours ago, Wells 11 said:

I remember our 2005 start well. From memory Bruce had 9 brownlow votes after 3 games and was the hottest player in the comp. He never came bk to the same level after that spear tackle and I’m not sure we quite found the same spark as a team after that loss either. 

Since '64 MFC have never had a season where we have done it easily. Eevn in the relative glory days (87-2004?) we would always require a late season surge to make up for an earlier slump.

Have often wondered what it must be like to barrack for a team where your greatest concern is whether you will finish 1,2 or 3.

I supsect I will continue wondering

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I think it’ll only be Viney for Harmes. 
I wouldn’t mind bringing in another small forward. Likely Chandler. Possibly Bedford. Not sure that’ll happen unless they make Jones 23rd player. 
I thought Jones was ok last week and doesn’t deserve to be dropped. But I can see him playing 23rd man at times. 

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18 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Since '64 MFC have never had a season where we have done it easily. Eevn in the relative glory days (87-2004?) we would always require a late season surge to make up for an earlier slump.

Have often wondered what it must be like to barrack for a team where your greatest concern is whether you will finish 1,2 or 3.

I supsect I will continue wondering

Have often thought our crap facilities since we left the g were partly responsible fr a slight % less fitness and cohesion and therefore slumps. slumps costing possible  premierships in those years when we were genuinely a good side. I’m not at all convinced we are one this year btw. 

you might have to predate 64 as a “ doing it easy year” though.  we had to beat the hawks in a tight final game to reach the finals that year, which we did with about 60 secs to go. But i could live with doing it tough like that!! 

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How much better does our midfield look with Langdon, Kozzie and Jordon in it?

We were so one dimensional and now there's a bit of spunk in there.   It might take them some time to click however.

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Quite a few comments querying how we're going to be able to cover St Kilda's pace and small forwards.

We didn't have much trouble covering them the last time we played, which was just 7 months ago.

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1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

Quite a few comments querying how we're going to be able to cover St Kilda's pace and small forwards.

We didn't have much trouble covering them the last time we played, which was just 7 months ago.

Higgins is a major addition to their fwd line that didn’t play last year (and Gresham)

Has been impressive in the practice matches and round 1.

I think they have the best small forward department in the league.

Higgins, Butler, Lonie, Gresham and Billings is a sensational combination.

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On 3/25/2021 at 1:02 PM, HBDee said:

Out: 10 of Oliver's unnecessary handballs.

In: 10 of Oliver's quality kicks.

Out: Harmes trying to break tackles and getting caught.

In: Viney trying to break tackles and getting caught.

 

Viney was 2nd in breaking tackles last season with a long way to third. Dusty being No 1. He breaks more than he gets caught.

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4 minutes ago, Grimes Times said:

Viney was 2nd in breaking tackles last season with a long way to third. Dusty being No 1. He breaks more than he gets caught.

Out of curiosity mate, whereabouts did you find that stat? Love finding left field ones like that!

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51 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Higgins is a major addition to their fwd line that didn’t play last year (and Gresham)

Has been impressive in the practice matches and round 1.

I think they have the best small forward department in the league.

Higgins, Butler, Lonie, Gresham and Billings is a sensational combination.

If our talls can intercept mark like last week it’ll be telling. Limit their crumbs

however if multiple talls go up for the same ball and/or King can bring it to ground we are in trouble 

I reckon we lose if our mids play like they did last week. 

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2 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Quite a few comments querying how we're going to be able to cover St Kilda's pace and small forwards.

We didn't have much trouble covering them the last time we played, which was just 7 months ago.

That's true but the game is faster now and less contested

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39 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Out of curiosity mate, whereabouts did you find that stat? Love finding left field ones like that!

dont have a link, but in The Age / re: Dustin Martin (today's)

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15 minutes ago, one_demon said:

That's true but the game is faster now and less contested

I'm curious. When I read this I expected the last word to be "congested", not "contested". Both are correct, but with the 't' and 'g' so close on the keyboard, I'm just wondering which word you intended?

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