Jump to content

  • Podcast: Grand Final Preview      

  • Podcast: Gary Pert Interview & Grand Final Preview      

CHANGES: Rd 02 vs St. Kilda



Recommended Posts

This would be my ins based on gut feeling. 

In: Viney, Melksham

Out: Harmes Sparrow

We know Goody is a fan of Melksham, and being on a quick deck we could use Melkshams clean kicking skills. Melksham has only played the 1 VFL game so they may just go with the one change being Viney for Harmes.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 3/22/2021 at 3:53 PM, Mental Demons said:

If we are going to beat the Saints, we need to be quicker. I am not too sure how much we can do that. St Kilda are not a big team. Chandler for Jackson is an improvement. I think if we play Jackson we are no chance of beating the Saints.

Yep, Chandler would be good relieving in the ruck. ?

  • Like 1
  • Haha 1
  • Shocked 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites


Bummer about Harmes being out,

watch the replay first 30 seconds of the first quarter, he got a pass from the certre scrum side stepped or went past an opponent   heading for the edge of the square and goal,   AND a free kick goes to the dockers behind him.

I am not a Harmes fan but he got himself into some great positions,   simillar to Spargo getting into the stream of football.

 

Chandler needs to play somewhere,   If Harmes is out  then Viney comes in if he is fit enough    Do not think there will be many other changes    We won, rusty   but we won,  4 points in the bank.   Give those players another chance, But is not going to be a walk in the park.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

Did I just read that Brayshaw will be playing wing for the year? 

I cannot understand Goodwin. 

Last year Brayshaw played between the arcs for a large part of games..  He was the 'go-to' player in transition.  So if he plays on the wing I'm guessing his role will be as a link-up player controlling one side of the ground rather the Langdon type wing who is more a run-and-carry player because of his speed.

The structures and players will need to be well set up to help them play those roles to optimise our ball movement out of defence.

Despite not being 'fast', Brayshaw has very good footy IQ, has good vision and regardless of what some on here say is a good user of the ball.  If my hunch is right about how his wing role might evolve then it could be good move. 

Edited by Lucifer's Hero
  • Like 6
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

Did I just read that Brayshaw will be playing wing for the year? 

I cannot understand Goodwin. 

It worked pretty well on the weekend so lets wait and see...

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

in that case...

In: Viney, Melksham, Hibbo

Out: Sparrow, Jones, Harmes

Vandenberg injury sub 

What has Melksham done to deserve a recall ? Did he play a blinder last week ? 

His form in the last couple of seasons has been poor and I would have thought he should earn a recall particularly when others have done a full pre season and have greater match fitness. I'd love to think we are past the days of gifting players games on reputation
 

 

  • Like 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 minutes ago, rjay said:

Harmes now out injured for 6 weeks with broken wrist...Viney for Harmes

Disappointing news - despite the lack of love for James Harmes from some here at Demonland I think we are a better team with him in the side - played out of position most of last year which was not his choice

Edited by Sydee
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Latest Injury List:

image.png.d974e7d3fa506cdfde7a602e727ac99c.png

   

Some serious outs for the Saints.  They get Max King back but he is lacking match practice and would be having nightmares playing against May again.  If any of our Hibberd, Viney or Melksham return they will at least have some match practice.  Injuries will be no excuse for us should we lose this weekend as they are worse off than us.

Petracca and May won us the game last time we played them.  We need an all team effort this week.

We must bank these early wins against wounded opponents. 

   
     
Edit:  Just saw the news re Harmes' wrist.  Fortunately, I think we have plenty of coverage for him and his role.  If Viney is ready it is an easy swap this or next week.    
     
     
     
     

Apologies if mentioned earlier/somewhere else, what’s the latest with Ben Browns injury?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Last year Brayshaw played between the arcs for a large part of games..  He was the 'go-to' player in transition.  So if he plays on the wing I'm guessing his role will be as a link-up player controlling one side of the ground rather the Langdon type wing who is more a run-and-carry player because of his speed.

The structures and players will need to be well set up to help them play those roles to optimise our ball movement out of defence.

Despite not being 'fast', Brayshaw has very good footy IQ, has good vision and regardless of what some on here say is a good user of the ball.  If my hunch is right about how his wing role might evolve then it could be good move. 

 

11 minutes ago, rjay said:

It worked pretty well on the weekend so lets wait and see...

 

Disagree with both of you. 18 touches with 9 handballs and 9 kicks going at a touch over 60% with four turnovers. 

I watched him closely, and aside from a few good individual pieces of play, he was underwhelming. The bloke came third in a brownlow after playing his natural game ffs. Are we thinking about this?!? I am completely disillusioned with Goodwin. 

Against better sides, his lack of transition speed will be found out. His natural instinct is to see ball get ball so I've never understood Goodwin's propensity to play natural inside and contested ball winners on a wing with a role that goes completely against their natural game. We've always had issues with our mids being sucked into the contest. And part of that is due to playing natural ball winners in outside positions who find it hard to hold space. When has it worked over the last two years or three years? Tyson, Jones, Brayshaw, AVB.. 

Tom Phillips was there as a cheap option over the trade period. Look at how played for Hawthorn on the weekend. A natural wingman. 

Gus is not even a top runner at the club either so the extended quarters and fewer rotations are not going to help him. His ball use is iffy at best. 

I will wait a few more games when we play better oppo, but it's already concerning. We've seen this before and to what effect? 

  • Like 6
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I hope this now gives Brayshae the opportunity to spend more quality minutes as an inside midfielder.

I have a feeling that this year they will generally only run two pure inside mids at a time, and sometimes perhaps even only one. 

Meaning a mix of two (sometimes one) of Oliver, Viney,  Tracc and sometimes Sparrow. Which leaves no rotation for Gus i don't think. 

To augment this set up, as they have shown already in the two practice games and the Freo game, they will run players like Jordon, Kozzie, Sparrow, Harmes (when available), ANB and even players like Melksham and Jackson (who i'm sure will at some point play as mid whilst Max is still in the ruck) as mids.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

51 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

Did I just read that Brayshaw will be playing wing for the year? 

I cannot understand Goodwin. 

Who would you play on the wing? We have a lot of inside mids 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

Against better sides, his lack of transition speed will be found out. His natural instinct is to see ball get ball so I've never understood Goodwin's propensity to play natural inside and contested ball winners on a wing with a role that goes completely against their natural game. We've always had issues with our mids being sucked into the contest. And part of that is due to playing natural ball winners in outside positions who find it hard to hold space. When has it worked over the last two years or three years? Tyson, Jones, Brayshaw, AVB.. 

Agree with you it’s not ideal and we should’ve done more over summer (though less convinced on Phillips).

But I think Gus’ transition speed kills us more on ball than the wing. If he doesn’t get his hands on it at centre clearances opposition mids spring right past him. Remember we had 2 off the back of the square covering in 2018.

We could use Pickett at bounces then swap Gus in from half forward. 

But then we’re back to who’s playing on the wing? Can’t have Baker. Vanders is similar problems as Gus with the ball (only worse) but a better defensive player. Jordon maybe? Bowey maybe?

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Gus with a foot injury at training so might not be an issue 

 

3 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

As in, an injury today? Know it's early, but flare up of previous one or new one?

 

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

No way Gus will be risked, and fingers crossed its not something long term.

 

In  -      Viney,   Bedford

Out -    Harmes, Brayshaw

 

Bedford has been playing well at Casey and we need running power.  Saints seem like a perfect matchup for him.

Edited by Pickett2Jackson
Link to comment
Share on other sites

29 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

Tom Phillips was there as a cheap option over the trade period. Look at how played for Hawthorn on the weekend. A natural wingman. 

I'm on record as saying we should have gone after Phillips, in fact I think I was the first on here to mention the possibility.

For whatever reason, we didn't make that move.

...so, now Brayshaw is probably our best bet.

Certainly streets ahead of Baker.

Hopefully one the kids will stand up and demand a shot but until then it looks like Brayshaw is the man.

 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

22 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

Disagree with both of you. 18 touches with 9 handballs and 9 kicks going at a touch over 60% with four turnovers. 

I watched him closely, and aside from a few good individual pieces of play, he was underwhelming. The bloke came third in a brownlow after playing his natural game ffs. Are we thinking about this?!? I am completely disillusioned with Goodwin. 

Against better sides, his lack of transition speed will be found out. His natural instinct is to see ball get ball so I've never understood Goodwin's propensity to play natural inside and contested ball winners on a wing with a role that goes completely against their natural game. We've always had issues with our mids being sucked into the contest. And part of that is due to playing natural ball winners in outside positions who find it hard to hold space. When has it worked over the last two years or three years? Tyson, Jones, Brayshaw, AVB.. 

Tom Phillips was there as a cheap option over the trade period. Look at how played for Hawthorn on the weekend. A natural wingman. 

Gus is not even a top runner at the club either so the extended quarters and fewer rotations are not going to help him. His ball use is iffy at best. 

I will wait a few more games when we play better oppo, but it's already concerning. We've seen this before and to what effect? 

Pure speculation on my part but I can see different elements to our game plan being applied when we play thru the wings:. 

  • fast, attacking play (ala Tigers/Bulldogs) thru Langdon
  • 'controlled' football (ala Geelong/WCE) thru Brayshaw. 

But as I said earlier it requires good positioning/structures and players to be well versed in each style.

These make us less predictable to the opp but more predictable to team mates.  And we have more of a chance to to control the tempo of games which we haven't been good at in the past.   

But as I said pure guess work on my part,

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    THE ICING ON THE QUAKE by Whispering Jack

    It’s not Christmas yet but if the Melbourne wins its last game of the 2021 season, then many of its fans will be celebrating early. There already are some parts of our town where the pending festivity is preordained. Houses are decked out with red and blue banners and streamers, some of which appeared as early as last Saturday week, on the morning after the Demons’ magnificent 83-point crushing of Geelong in their preliminary final at Optus Stadium. While it’s great to see the numbers of lo

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    CAT SKINNING by George On The Outer

    When they defeated the Geelong Cats in the 2021 AFL Preliminary Final on Friday night in Perth, Melbourne proved that there is more than one way to skin those cats.  They did it in the ruck and in the middle, they did it in the forward line, they did it in defence and around the ground, but importantly, each and every player a Demon guernsey spent his night at Optus Stadium skinning an opponent. Following the after-the-siren win against Geelong in Round 23, there was an expectation of

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    THE POINTY END by The Oracle

    The AFL’s two oldest clubs, Melbourne and Geelong, face off on Friday evening in a sudden death Preliminary Final. It’s a game that promises plenty in terms of fascination and intrigue as a result of the rivalry that’s been building between the teams over recent encounters that have been tight struggles which have gone to the wire with two of them decided by after-the-siren goals. The added touch of mystery attached to this week’s meeting comes by virtue of the fact that it’s going to take

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    THE VFL YEAR THAT NEVER WAS by KC from Casey

    The rising case numbers and the continuing lockdowns in Victoria and NSW spelled doom for the 2021 VFL season which went through a slow, painful demise before its recent official cancellation. After weeks of indecision, the AFL decided to pull the plug on the season with the 10-0 Bulldogs recognised as minor premier, but without a premiership cup and without awarding the J.J. Liston Medal for the best and fairest VFL player. It was somewhat fortuitous for the integrity of the competition t

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    TAMING THE LIONS by George On The Outer

    With nine finals debutants in the side, the Melbourne Football Club had a daunting assignment ahead of it in the First Qualifying Final — to overcome the competition’s highest scoring side, the Brisbane Lions. In the end, the Demons accomplished the task by putting the bite on their opponents on their way to taming the Lions and recording a 33 point win that propelled them into one the two Preliminary Finals of 2021.   It was one of those debutants, Luke Jackson, who put the bite in more

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    RETURN TO NEVERLAND by Whispering Jack

    The greatest Demon A HIGHWAY OF DEMONS by Whispering Jack CHAPTER SIXTEEN - RETURN TO NEVERLAND  I have a six year old grandson who recently took up the family tradition of following the Demons. He had his first taste of the game a few years ago when he went to the “G” with his parents to watch the 107-point massacre of Carlton and he went to another game in the following season which was also a W for the Dees. But his appetite for the club has grown exponentially this year and wh

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features 13

    METAMORPHOSIS by Whispering Jack

    I’ve always believed that when the home and away matches come to an end, the football season takes on a completely different shape and character. During the regular season, each team’s goals progress as the weeks pass and if you’re good enough to survive and make the grade, the situation changes. The comparison can be made with the life cycle of a butterfly going through stages from egg to larva to caterpillar, cocoon and in the end to a bright and colourful creature that emerges from darkness i

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    STEALING THE CATS’ CREAM by George On The Outer

    They were leading by 44 points well into the third quarter of a game to decide the minor premier, having kicked nine unanswered goals. The Cats were about to lap up their bowl of cream, dreaming of next week but the Demons led by Max Gawn had other ideas. In a stunning finish, they stole the game from under them to claim the plaudits as best team and top of ladder position. In a remarkable game, it all came down to Max having to kick the winning goal after the final siren, something which s

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    SKIN THE CATS by Whispering Jack

    The task ahead for the Demons as they wend their way down the Princes Freeway to Geelong on Saturday night will be to skin the Cats. For them to come away with the points from this game would mark an historic occasion for the club as it will finish on top of the ladder for the first time since its last premiership year, 1964. And it was in that year, that a trip to Corio Bay to meet the reigning premiers in Round 12, was one of the catalysts for Melbourne’s surge to the flag. It was a top o

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    REACH FOR THE STARS by George on the Outer

    It was a game of great significance for the Melbourne Football Club. A win would see them keep top spot on the ladder with one round remaining. To achieve top place in the Round for Reach when we are all inspired to “Be Like Jim” and reach for the stars was a great way of honouring one of our heroes. All the better given that it was done by way of an emphatic 41 point win against Adelaide! It is worth remembering that, but for the umpiring mistake in the previous encounter with the Crows, t

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    TICKETS PLEASE by The Oracle

    A lot of water has passed under Princes Bridge in the five years since Melbourne last met Adelaide on the MCG. The Crows were riding high at the time while the Demons were mid-table and scrambling for a win to stay in the race for the finals. The 30,000 fans who had tickets to the game were thoroughly entertained by a close, high scoring affair that ended in tears for fans of the home team. Not even an eight-goal second term could help them.   Times have changed.    In the fi

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    ELECTRIFYING by George On The Outer

    What more can they throw at the Demons of 2021? Covid restrictions, hubs, aircraft circling between airports before landing for games and now a match stopped for 30 minutes to give a flagging opponent its second wind? To date, none of those distractions has swayed the team from their winning objectives. The game against West Coast in Perth can be marked on their report card as another positive outcome after yet another test. There was much at stake for both sides.  Melbourne had t

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...