PREGAME: Rd 06 vs Richmond

[McQueen 17,864]

You watch the Tigers take to Garlett with a real physical approach to put him off his game asap.

I just hope our other forwards fly the flag tomorrow night and repay it in spades.

Season's shot. Let's put some real hurt on.

[titan_uranus 22,775]

More classic Demonland.

People complain about the performance of the side, so we make changes and then people complain about uninspiring changes.

For mine, I'm happy to see some fresh and faster legs in Garlett, Lockhart and Stretch. T Smith for Preuss is a downgrade, unfortunately, and I'm not a fan of bringing ANB back this soon, but it's not like we're loaded with other options.

5 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

One thing that might help us is that Rich haven't worked out how to play effectively with two tall forwards.  The two big losses were with Lynch and Riewoldt in.  When Riewoldt went out they rediscovered their 'DNA' ie playing to one tall fwd. 

Re Smith he was doing ok until this game last year when Rance jumped late (supposedly) for a mark and rammed his knee into Smith's back fracturing his ribs and puncturing his lung.  Shame Rance isn't playing but Smith can seek revenge by playing a top game for us.

I think that game with Tim Smith's injury was the year prior, not last year?

I'm also not sure whether the Lynch/Riewoldt thing is as bad as it has looked but fingers crossed it messes up this weekend!

4 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Can’t wait for the Hibberd on Tom Lynch match up. 

Frost will surely play on Lynch?

Still, leaves Hibberd to play on Riewoldt. No one else in the side to do it I don't think...except TMac.

[frankie_d 1,410]

14 minutes ago, McQueen said:

You watch the Tigers take to Garlett with a real physical approach to put him off his game asap.

I just hope our other forwards fly the flag tomorrow night and repay it in spades.

Season's shot. Let's put some real hurt on.

I hope they do. Gawn was left to be worked over by Port Adelaide - we were weak. It took 3 years of Roos to eliminate the "soft" tag - it's coming back, I reckon. The midfield are hard around the ball, but the team doesn't fly the flag.

[jnrmac 19,324]

1 hour ago, My name is legion said:

So why do we glorify that in “Anzac Day” war remembrance?

We honour those that we lost and those that fought and returned, not glorify war.

[jnrmac 19,324]

I thought Garlett had played his last game after poor efforts last year and a terrible showing at Casey prior to a week ago.

I am glad he got a chance to redeem himself and show us all what he is capable of. On his day he is electric. Needs to get rid of the timidness and attack everything. I wish him well. If ever we needed some magic its about now..

[Mel Bourne 3,879]

1 hour ago, rjay said:

I just hope we try something different tomorrow.

Tommy Mac back to Lynch.

Fritsch forward.

Viney forward/Salem in the middle.

Hunt back or to a wing...

Melk to HB, best field kick we have.

Lewis forward, use his so called experience to sort out that mess...

Brayshaw & Trac interchanging through the middle.

Weid the only really tall forward giving Max the odd chop out.

Be unpredictable, at the moment we are just so predictable...

Unfortunately, I'm not sure we're that inventive.

If we try something we could give it a shake

...the Tiges are men down and have been playing above themselves.

The Rance/Kotch loss has to take effect at some stage, with luck it will be this game.

Our luck hasn't been so good so it will probably be next week.

Absolutely put Jayden Hunt on the wing. I have a feeling he’ll come into his own this season (despite everything around him crumbling a little bit). 

[58er 5,670]

On 4/22/2019 at 3:30 PM, samcantstandya said:

I can't bring myself 2 go I will vomit when I cough  up the dosh 2 watch us play like crud. I would rather bash my head against a brick wall. To think I was thinking about a membership upgrade 2 my m/ship so get a guaranteed ticket if we had ' ve made the Gf. 

It's a replacement home game !!

[Hellofatime 83]

Simon,

Please leave your best players on the ground for as much time as possible.  They want that too.  Use the interchange for your average or developing players in building the team.  Ask any great player if he wants to spend time on the bench.  Sure bet he says no!

[praha 10,368]

Doesn't work like that anymore. The bench is used for rotations moreso than "spare" or backup players like in days of yore. Few players spend more than 80% of gametime on the field.

[John Demonic 4,892]

9 hours ago, maximum bob said:

My modus operandum for watching Melbourne matches live to air so far this year. Turn the TV on but it's sound off and you can't see it without turning around from a laptop set up in the "sports room" as my other half calls it. Follow the updated scores on the regular AFL site occasionally and nervously. Turn up sound when we get lucky and quickly switch back to TV again. We get in front or even remotely mount a challenge... Cough loudly as I sneak another bottle of whatever's available into the front room and hope for the best. Getting flogged..you can guess the rest.

I watch on delay, so My MO is to skip ahead/fast forward when i get the sense the opposition is about to get a run on with my eye on the scoreboard changes to confirm. Rewind when we score a goal to see it. Then continue. I pretty much skipped over the entire 2nd half last week. Which saves me an hour of my life.

Edited April 23, 2019 by John Demonic

[Skuit 9,382]

Hardwick: Seven years as head-coach of Richmond before success (notably losing out to Dean Bailey who was given the flick at the lowly and compromised MFC after three years). First finals appearance after four years, after which the team dropped out of contention again. One flag since and back to the pack already.

Buckley: Took over a premiership team and two years later it was out of the finals for a prolonged stint. Seven years altogether before he got the club back to the decider - finishing in 13th the year prior. Ultimate success still wanting.

Simpson: Took over and coached the team to a grand final in his second year, before scraping into the finals on the last day of the season just two years later and being utterly wiped out by the opposition in the second week (more so than the job they did on us last year). Found ultimate success a year after.

I could go on. Beveridge - adopted a premiership window team and had a dream run through the finals, then what? Ross Lyon, perennial failure with up followed by down. Roos - one flag in eight seasons of coaching the Swans, with no return in the following five years. Chris Scott - see Buckley basically. Even Clarkson - took the young Hawks to a flag and then dipped out of the finals altogether.

Have faith in your team and its coach.

Good luck to my beloved Dees vs. the Toiges - I'm right behind you for this one, whatever may come.

 

[Drunkn167 5,093]

11 hours ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

I hate to say it, but Smith has never demonstrated AFL qualities to me. I thought Keilty was ahead of him at Casey. Can anyone elaborate on what Smith has done in the 2s this year? 

I thought Keilty had played stronger games then Smith, but the really bad game against Box Hill hurt his chances and Smith has probably been more consistent.

Plus Smith does have some AFL experience and to blood a rookie on a really big stage like Anzac Day eve is just too risky I think.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Never been less excited for a game.

Richmond are going to totally tear us apart with their speed and pressure.

[Skuit 9,382]

15 minutes ago, Drunkn167 said:

I thought Keilty had played stronger games then Smith, but the really bad game against Box Hill hurt his chances and Smith has probably been more consistent.

Plus Smith does have some AFL experience and to blood a rookie on a really big stage like Anzac Day eve is just too risky I think.

Hey Drunkn - I admire your spirit, composure and level-headedness since you've joined this site and persistence since. I'm disappointed your brother hasn't been given a gig yet this year - especially in light of Tmac and Weids' form so far (and Petty getting a shot last year, although that may have ended up detrimental to your brother's cause in the long run) and I'd probably be just as disappointed if it came down to just the one poor outing v Box Hill. Without betraying your inside line to the club, can you give us any indication if Dec is close, what they're saying to him for example? Encouraging? Needs to improve certain aspects etc.?

[Bombay Airconditioning 5,987]

If Brandon Ellis was playing for us tonight would that swing the game in our favour? What about Prestia, Broad or Edwards? Balta, Stack, Higgins or Baker? 

Tigers game plan as mentioned earlier relies on speed and pressure, and on current form being us getting pantsed by the Saints and Tigers beating Port at home missing five of their best doesn’t look good for us.

We clearly don’t have as many skilled ball users as Collingwood but we need to do what they did and match Richmond’s pressure, there will be no excuses for not doing that. 

We need to lay some big bone crunching tackles and hurt them. Starting with Jones, line someone up and clean them up....fairly. Pushing and shoving equates to nothing. Our intensity must be there for four quarters or don’t bother at all.

And the ability to hit the scoreboard would go a long way to winning this game.

Id love to know what Jones has done if anything with regards to getting the guys up for this game.

Carn the Demons.

 

[old dee 22,983]

3 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

If Brandon Ellis was playing for us tonight would that swing the game in our favour? What about Prestia, Broad or Edwards? Balta, Stack, Higgins or Baker? 

Tigers game plan as mentioned earlier relies on speed and pressure, and on current form being us getting pantsed by the Saints and Tigers beating Port at home missing five of their best doesn’t look good for us.

We clearly don’t have as many skilled ball users as Collingwood but we need to do what they did and match Richmond’s pressure, there will be no excuses for not doing that. 

We need to lay some big bone crunching tackles and hurt them. Starting with Jones, line someone up and clean them up....fairly. Pushing and shoving equates to nothing. Our intensity must be there for four quarters or don’t bother at all.

And the ability to hit the scoreboard would go a long way to winning this game.

Id love to know what Jones has done if anything with regards to getting the guys up for this game.

Carn the Demons.

 

It is not about effort or enthusiasm it is about skill and speed. We are seriously lacking both at the moment. Too many VFL level skill players in the side and we have recruited a team of inside tough players in recent years who are mainly slow by nature. Then add a few players who are clearly over the hill and should have retired last year and you have the receipe for our performances this year. The 666 change has left our recruiting bare of fast outside players. 

Of course our list of injured players has not helped. 

We will need to add speedy players over the next couple of years or another decade of mediocrity awaits.

[Demon17 4,638]

3 hours ago, Skuit said:

Hardwick: Seven years as head-coach of Richmond before success (notably losing out to Dean Bailey who was given the flick at the lowly and compromised MFC after three years). First finals appearance after four years, after which the team dropped out of contention again. One flag since and back to the pack already.

Buckley: Took over a premiership team and two years later it was out of the finals for a prolonged stint. Seven years altogether before he got the club back to the decider - finishing in 13th the year prior. Ultimate success still wanting.

Simpson: Took over and coached the team to a grand final in his second year, before scraping into the finals on the last day of the season just two years later and being utterly wiped out by the opposition in the second week (more so than the job they did on us last year). Found ultimate success a year after.

I could go on. Beveridge - adopted a premiership window team and had a dream run through the finals, then what? Ross Lyon, perennial failure with up followed by down. Roos - one flag in eight seasons of coaching the Swans, with no return in the following five years. Chris Scott - see Buckley basically. Even Clarkson - took the young Hawks to a flag and then dipped out of the finals altogether.

Have faith in your team and its coach.

Good luck to my beloved Dees vs. the Toiges - I'm right behind you for this one, whatever may come.

 

Thanks Skuit.  Best summary for a while on here. The foundation is in place but will be a rocky ride.

[DemonOX 8,551]

13 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

The only hope is that Richmond haven't quite hit stride for the season.

Don’t worry Diamond they will hit stride against us. 

Dont forget we played Essendon back into form and we have a history of playing teams back into form. 

[watchtheeyes 1,210]

This feels like the kind of game that Garlett tears apart, and kicks three goals.. And then in four weeks he will drop off alarmingly before being out of the side again by mid-season. At that point I imagine it will his last AFL game.

I'm ok with that if it helps us get a win tonight.

[At the break of Gawn 3,672]

I think Jack Riewoldt coming off a 3 week wrist and knee injury is an ideal time to play them. He’ll probably be quite underdone.

If my memory serves me correctly, Riewoldt used to have a horrible time playing against TMac back in the day. He had one good game in 2017 where he played most of it on Frost.

[Demon Dynasty 15,971]

10 hours ago, frankie_d said:

I hope they do. Gawn was left to be worked over by Port Adelaide - we were weak. It took 3 years of Roos to eliminate the "soft" tag - it's coming back, I reckon. The midfield are hard around the ball, but the team doesn't fly the flag.

I agree with that frankie.  One reason I'm happy to see Lewis back for a while longer.  Doesn't take any BS and happy to dish it out.

May should be handy in this area also IF he can get his [censored] together.

Edited April 23, 2019 by Rusty Nails

[Demon Dynasty 15,971]

9 hours ago, jnrmac said:

I thought Garlett had played his last game after poor efforts last year and a terrible showing at Casey prior to a week ago.

I am glad he got a chance to redeem himself and show us all what he is capable of. On his day he is electric. Needs to get rid of the timidness and attack everything. I wish him well. If ever we needed some magic its about now..

The days of Garlett going hell for leather at Casey are well and truly over, if they were ever there at all Jnr.  He is obviously only interested in playing at AFL level.  I'm surprised some people still think he is going to (needs to) light things up at Casey in order to earn a call up.

While I agree he sometimes doesn't set the world on fire at senior level either, he at least knows where the goals are if given the chance and usually makes the most of an opportunity.  And it's slim pickings for us in this regard right now.  Any smaller forward who can crumb a little and finish is better than none.

[Radar Detector 1,339]

4 hours ago, Skuit said:

Hardwick: Seven years as head-coach of Richmond before success (notably losing out to Dean Bailey who was given the flick at the lowly and compromised MFC after three years). First finals appearance after four years, after which the team dropped out of contention again. One flag since and back to the pack already.

Buckley: Took over a premiership team and two years later it was out of the finals for a prolonged stint. Seven years altogether before he got the club back to the decider - finishing in 13th the year prior. Ultimate success still wanting.

Simpson: Took over and coached the team to a grand final in his second year, before scraping into the finals on the last day of the season just two years later and being utterly wiped out by the opposition in the second week (more so than the job they did on us last year). Found ultimate success a year after.

I could go on. Beveridge - adopted a premiership window team and had a dream run through the finals, then what? Ross Lyon, perennial failure with up followed by down. Roos - one flag in eight seasons of coaching the Swans, with no return in the following five years. Chris Scott - see Buckley basically. Even Clarkson - took the young Hawks to a flag and then dipped out of the finals altogether.

Have faith in your team and its coach.

Good luck to my beloved Dees vs. the Toiges - I'm right behind you for this one, whatever may come.

 

Awesome post for some perspective.

[Demon Dude 425]

9 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

The days of Garlett going hell for leather at Casey are well and truly over, if they were ever there at all Jnr.  He is obviously only interested in playing at AFL level.  I'm surprised some people still think he is going to (needs to) light things up at Casey in order to earn a call up.

While I agree he sometimes doesn't set the world on fire at senior level either, he at least knows where the goals are if given the chance and usually makes the most of an opportunity.  And it's slim pickings for us in this regard right now.  Any smaller forward who can crumb a little and finish is better than none.

His main problem is he doesn't defend when he's not switched on. Ive lost count of the amount of times I've seen his opponent run the ball out our F50 while he's hanging out in the goalsquare waiting for a Joe the goose. My guess is he'll be back out of the team before the bye and probably for good this time.

[My name is legion 158]

10 hours ago, jnrmac said:

We honour those that we lost and those that fought and returned, not glorify war.

For a political war started in Europe by an irrelevant assassination and arguably also led to a second politically motivated war. Many of our men were killed or maimed psychologically and physically for a war that was a terrible waste of human life for very questionable reasons. Dreadful decisions were made by aristocrat generals and politicians from England who were remote from the battlefields. Glorification of this is ridiculous. By the way, both of my grandfathers fought in the so-called First World War. I respect the men that went, but not the decision to send them. Marching soldiers, military logos and military bands on football grounds do not impress me. A world peace game would.