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2 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Why? Because they haven't played finals in last 10 years

The issue goes far deeper than that I am afraid.  The rhetorical question is based on the fact that they appear to be a football club in name only.  They have been surpassed by GWS who entered the competition after them.  Let's not forget that the AFL's preferred option at the time was to relocate North Melb.

As pointed out above, regardless of the code, no notable sporting franchise has succeeded up there. 

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never really understood the footy-speak regarding 'relevance'.  are they irrelevant? relevant to what?

we are discussing them right now so I guess not?!

 

anyway.... nice guy Rocket but he was a poor appointment and a man who lost the passion to coach.  they need a young coach/mentor and they need to create a new identity/enable player power.  they have lots of talent, just need to blend it

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5 hours ago, iv'a worn smith said:

Is the GC Suns now irrelevant?

 

 

Are the*

 

Sorry to be that guy. :ph34r:

Posted (edited)
52 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

 

Are the*

 

Sorry to be that guy. :ph34r:

  1. No, the Gold Coasts Suns are is one football team.
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emphasise the irony
Posted
5 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said:

No, the Gold Coasts Suns are one football team.

is the sun

are the suns

cheers

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Posted (edited)
18 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said:

No, the Gold Coasts Suns are one football team.

Deliberately ironic? Don't you mean "No, the Gold Coast Suns is one football team"?

Defeats your point otherwise.

Back on topic...I understand Eade getting the chop, but surely questions also have to be asked about the competence of the Board who chose him in the first place.

 

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At the time Eade clocked on the the board were as candid to acknowledge he (Rocket) had inherited a "shlt sandwich".

Poor ol' Rod just became 'quilton' :rolleyes:

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What a mess. Got to wonder how they can dig themselves out of it. Eade was handed a bucket of [inevitable failure] to eat almost as big as the one Pagan was passed at Carlton in 2002. In both cases, something in the players' culture is clearly wrong. That Gold Coast had a collection of high picks on their list just brought pressure without much real talent being displayed.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with Ablett now.

IF Ablett greatly disliked Eade and his superstardom status was dividing the player group against Eade, then maybe the change will be transformative and Ablett stays, the club unites, and there is huge improvement.

OR the club recognises that it needs to rebuild with new talent and that Ablett is no great help, and becomes inclined to accept a more limited offer from Geelong, just to get his salary off the books and remove the divisive influence.

 

Also, "We are the mighty Gold Coast Suns, we something something can't remember..."

 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

What a mess. Got to wonder how they can dig themselves out of it. Eade was handed a bucket of [inevitable failure] to eat almost as big as the one Pagan was passed at Carlton in 2002. In both cases, something in the players' culture is clearly wrong. That Gold Coast had a collection of high picks on their list just brought pressure without much real talent being displayed.

Carlton were a mess but arguably Pagan's coaching methods were outdated and he couldn't get the players onside. I reckon Eade is likely on that same side of the ledger and it will be interesting to see what player movements are at the end of the season or what comes out of the club in terms of player commentary. When Neeld left there was a collective sight of relief and I get the impression GC will be the same.

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27 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Deliberately ironic? Don't you mean "No, the Gold Coast Suns is one football team"?

Defeats your point otherwise.

Back on topic...I understand Eade getting the chop, but surely questions also have to be asked about the competence of the Board who chose him in the first place.

 

It's called irony

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terrible recruiting by scot clayton who was so overatted when appointed it's not funny.

He favored lightly built skillful,  nice athletic  types . GWS went with strongly built competitive beasts as their no 1 criteria.

They revolutionised they way other clubs now recruit . It also helped they had even more handouts than GC from a draft perspective and used all the pre selection , points / zone  /academy system perfectly

 

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5 hours ago, True Heart said:

It's unbelievable and unforgiveable considering they were introduced before GWS and have achieved nothing in that time. Compare them to GWS and they have just gotten it so wrong. There needs to be another overhaul from the board, committee, coaches etc.

Sounds a bit like our last decade prior to Jackson/Roos.

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Club told Rocket last night he wouldn't be getting a contract for next year, but wanted him to coach the last 3 games. He told the club to shove it up their arse.

Really don't know why they wouldn't wait until the end of the season to tell him that. What a dumb club.

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Can understand the decision but I do think that Rocket was very unlucky with injuries over the last couple of years - horrific run last year, not much better this year.  Day didn't even get on the park, Lynch hasn't been fully fit, Ablett in and out,  May out a few times,  Barlow was playing good footy before the leg injury, Rischitelli just back from a long term knee.  Made it difficult for him.  

I know there is talk about John Barker but if Brett Ratten isn't their no.1 target of those that aren't senior coaches at the moment, I'd be really surprised.  Did a good job at Carlton and has had a few years under the best coach in the league at Hawthorn.  

As for Ablett, they should just let him go to Geelong.  Watched him closely in the last quarter on the weekend.  Skirted around the packs getting the easy ball (he's talented enough to get 30 even when he's in cruise control) and doesn't want to be there.  They need to wash their hands of him, whilst still playing a bit of hard ball with Geelong.

 

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13 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Club told Rocket last night he wouldn't be getting a contract for next year, but wanted him to coach the last 3 games. He told the club to shove it up their arse.

Really don't know why they wouldn't wait until the end of the season to tell him that. What a dumb club.

In the past, clubs wanted to get started early to enable a new coach and his team to be in place to help with list management issues. They also wanted to get the "best available" before other clubs in need of a new coach pinched their choice from under their nose. But I seem to recall there's a new rule (or perhaps it's just a gentleman's agreement) that clubs will not talk to assistant coaches until their season is complete. Given that the most desirable assistant coaches often work for teams in finals contention, that doesn't leave much time to get a new coach appointed before the decisions for the next year are needed.

And if Brett Ratten is a potential appointee, his season could be over in 3 weeks time.


Posted (edited)
20 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Club told Rocket last night he wouldn't be getting a contract for next year, but wanted him to coach the last 3 games. He told the club to shove it up their arse.

Really don't know why they wouldn't wait until the end of the season to tell him that. What a dumb club.

Maybe to get ahead of other teams potentially in the hunt for new coach in 2018? If they started looking now on the quiet, Rocket would find out in 10 mins and would make for a situation worse than it currently is. Also, there may be legal contractual obligations that require notice to be given.

Edit. What La Dee-vina said ;)

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12 minutes ago, Zoiikgarden said:

Talking of coaching moves: Heard a rumour that Brad Scott is off to Collingwood? !! Source North supporter.

Pies keeping with the FIGJAM theme if true.

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GCS .. where the tail wags the dog. Woof 

Every comp needs a basketcase :rolleyes:

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Fond memories of Rodney laying down in the coaches box at quarter time getting a head massage to reieve the stress he had plenty of that

Yes they showed it on tv thought it was great!

EADE WAS A GREAT CHARACTER

Shame the club was Shite

 

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Was thinking he would get turfed before seasons end, was "hoping" it would be after this weekends game and the Suns came out firing against the Dons next week.

 

Best of luck Rocket, never great to see someone get the lemon and sars especially one who was fun to watch with his antics.

Posted
15 hours ago, Zoiikgarden said:

Talking of coaching moves: Heard a rumour that Brad Scott is off to Collingwood? !! Source North supporter.

North and Collingwood could swap coaches, saving money and effort to select a coach and providing certainty and stability at the same time!

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