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5 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

I have nothing to base this upon.

I'm wondering who's more interested in whom ?

Who instigated what ? ?

The big dollar offer suggests to me that we knocked on his door. 

I must admit I am a little surprised because Adelaide are a chance to win the flag. 

Getting the trade over the line will be tough if he does choose us 

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5 minutes ago, Chook in Perth said:

Happening.

OH JUST STOP IT !!!!!!!

(at least i am prepared to think it could happen now.....)

Had any feedback on who Kelly is leaning toward club wise?

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Just get the deal done. Watts, Frost and a first rounder should get it done.

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1 minute ago, WattsUp2312 said:

Your crazy - way over the odds.

frost and first rounder will suffice 

Frost won't get it done he's not in our best 22 and Watts is barely in our best 22. If I was Adelaide I would want a senior player and a first rounder.

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Adelaide aren't in the box seat here perhaps ! ;)

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14 hours ago, Grand New Flag said:

What I can confirm is only that we are pursuing Lever aggressively and Lever has indicated he may be interested in joining the Dees.  

This is nothing more than what is out there in the media.

Whether it happens, what the size and length of the contract being discussed and what the potential trade I have no idea. I am sure Adelaide will go all out to keep him, and we are also competing with other clubs.  

However, at this stage we are the clear favorites.  A finals win or two will really help. Increase likelihood of Lever choosing Dees and increase value of our players.  You would think a best 22 player or highly rated junior will likely be traded as part of deal.

Oh well I'm convinced...

 

Give it up, scoop.

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Dees aren't going to give up overs for this kid.

Tom Mitchell was traded for pick 14, omeara pick 10 and 2018 second round, hibberd pick 29, Lachie Henderson future first round pick, Prestia pick 6.

lever isn't better than any of the above. 

melbournes first round pick this year should do the deal and at worst 2nd round next year. 

im glad some of the posters here are not deciding the future of the club. 

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we should keep our first round in lieu of getting experienced/high credential player elsewhere. There are always going to be a champion or a future champion out there in the draft.The 2nd rounder and a player should be the way to go re-trade.

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18 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

No!  What makes you think this? 

Tom and Oscar are in totally different contract positions.  Tom is an UFA next year so he will be looking at all his options, regardless of what happens with little bro. 

And, Oscar is more than good enough to earn a contract in his own right without being carried on big bro's coat tails.  There will be other clubs coming at Oscar next year! 

It is really important to sign Tom up asap to avoid a UFA media beat up in 2018.  Last time he signed for only 2 years because he wanted to see how the club progressed.  He has his answer.  I think he will stay on a long term contract.  He wouldn't want to bail now. 

 

The last extension the brothers signed at the same time for the same length. Seems more than a coincidence. And Tomald's reasoning for the short extension shouldn't be taken at face-value - anyone with even minimal insight could discern the direction in which our club was finally heading.

Just to be clear - the suggestion wasn't a knock on Oscar. He was drafted and can earn a contract extension in his own right. But with UFA looming, Tomald can make it pretty clear he wants to play with his brother into the future. We're not going to match an offer if he signals his intent to depart.

Hence, if we're looking to jettison a tall defender to make room for Lever, Then there may be some extra-normal considerations that are coming into play - or at least Omac could get the express nod over Frost in what might otherwise be a coin-toss. 

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3 hours ago, Skuit said:

The last extension the brothers signed at the same time for the same length. Seems more than a coincidence. And Tomald's reasoning for the short extension shouldn't be taken at face-value - anyone with even minimal insight could discern the direction in which our club was finally heading.

Just to be clear - the suggestion wasn't a knock on Oscar. He was drafted and can earn a contract extension in his own right. But with UFA looming, Tomald can make it pretty clear he wants to play with his brother into the future. We're not going to match an offer if he signals his intent to depart.

Hence, if we're looking to jettison a tall defender to make room for Lever, Then there may be some extra-normal considerations that are coming into play - or at least Omac could get the express nod over Frost in what might otherwise be a coin-toss. 

They have the same manager so doing the contracts at the same time makes sense. 

Also, 2 years is the initial renewal term for a recent draftee.  Hunt, Petracca, Brayshaw etc had 2 years on initial renewal.  So Oscar got the standard 2 years.

The club wanted Tom to sign a long-term contract as he was in hot demand.  He declined.  He signed for 2 years as it takes him to 8 years with the club ie he has Unrestricted Free Agent status.  Tom had seen so many false dawns that even if blind freddy could see the direction we were going there was still serious doubt. 

I don't see any signs of a brotherly bloc.  But I will leave it at that as I have no more facts to offer. 

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6 hours ago, bandicoot said:

Dees aren't going to give up overs for this kid.

Tom Mitchell was traded for pick 14, omeara pick 10 and 2018 second round, hibberd pick 29, Lachie Henderson future first round pick, Prestia pick 6.

lever isn't better than any of the above. 

melbournes first round pick this year should do the deal and at worst 2nd round next year. 

im glad some of the posters here are not deciding the future of the club. 

I agree we shouldn't be giving overs but I would have him ahead of Prestia any day of the week. Prestia is butcher of the highest order.

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8 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

They have the same manager so doing the contracts at the same time makes sense. 

Also, 2 years is the initial renewal term for a recent draftee.  Hunt, Petracca, Brayshaw etc had 2 years on initial renewal.  So Oscar got the standard 2 years.

The club wanted Tom to sign a long-term contract as he was in hot demand.  He declined.  He signed for 2 years as it takes him to 8 years with the club ie he has Unrestricted Free Agent status.  Tom had seen so many false dawns that even if blind freddy could see the direction we were going there was still serious doubt. 

I don't see any signs of a brotherly bloc.  But I will leave it at that as I have no more facts to offer. 

We'll call it a truce LH as I have no facts to offer either - but I do believe the evidence you provided actually points to what I'm saying.

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5 hours ago, Go the Biff said:

It won't cost anything like that

I've been sniffing around the Crows forums

Apparently Lever is overrated and can't defend one on one

Sssshhhhh  !

I had a cheeky peek too.  Most are resigned to him leaving and saw decent value in the Frost + a pick proposal.

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