Training - Friday 20th January, 2017

[skills32 229]

21 minutes ago, wrecka45 said:

Skills32. I don't post often but seriously mate if you are going to be dropping medical insight make sure you're qualified. 

That is the worst description of a back related Hamstring that I have ever heard. The only thing you got right is "pressure.... of the nerve.....you feel hamstring pain when really there is nothing wrong with the hamstring" 

The rest is absolute nonsense.

"Vertebrate shift"? What is that? Is it a animal with a backbone moving?

Disc pathology, ligament inflammation or compression, muscle derangement all possible causes of neural compression.

You can decide if I'm qualified or not.

I cut short your post because that was the section I was referring to. I am tired of looking through threads that are just full of  posts with someone else's postsrepeated  .

The rest is 'experience' knowledge. Playing superules I did a hammy and the trainer gave me a lift, by putting has arms around me with my elbows at my side. I felt a few discs crack and when he put me on my feet the hamstring pain had disappeared. That is what I was talking about. 'Vertebrate shift' was the wrong expression.

Sorry about that.

[xarronn 384]

2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Carlton's ruckman of the century was 192cm. Just sayin....

189cm actually.

[daisycutter 29,756]

18 minutes ago, xarronn said:

189cm actually.

yeah, correct. polly farmer was 191cm

[olisik 4,060]

Thread needs to be renamed to 'Hammies and Back Pain' 

[Demon trucker 1,800]

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

yeah, correct. polly farmer was 191cm

Jeff white is 195cm, with a huge leap

[daisycutter 29,756]

Just now, don't make me angry said:

Jeff white is 195cm, with a huge leap

he was a midfielder too 

[Deemented Are Go! 3,684]

8 hours ago, Stinga2 said:

This is what happens when Saty doesn't get to training!

Did the training session even happen?

I'm having some kind of Kafka-esque existential crisis.

Maybe all the players and coaching staff woke up to find they were just cockroaches wandering aimlessly around an empty, meaningless world....

 

 

Gawd this off-season is killing me

[CBDees 3,167]

1 hour ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Did the training session even happen?

I'm having some kind of Kafka-esque existential crisis.

Maybe all the players and coaching staff woke up to find they were just cockroaches wandering aimlessly around an empty, meaningless world....

 

 

Gawd this off-season is killing me

I spoke to a bloke last night who watched the training session yesterday and he was very positive. When I asked him did he post on Demonland he stated that he wasn't a member (though he attends training every Friday)! It is frustrating to have 86 posts on a training thread and not a single one about yesterday's session.

[Drunkn167 5,093]

During a full ground drill yesterday, Gawn was at the top of the square and someone kicked it to him. Just as he was about to take a fairly high mark, Keilty came from the side and used his body/hip just enough to nudge Maxy to the side and take the defensive mark. 

Apprently this resulted in a big reaction from the playing group. This was also after Max was doing well and had already taken 3 or 4 good contested marks.

[dazzledavey36 55,385]

5 hours ago, Drunkn167 said:

During a full ground drill yesterday, Gawn was at the top of the square and someone kicked it to him. Just as he was about to take a fairly high mark, Keilty came from the side and used his body/hip just enough to nudge Maxy to the side and take the defensive mark. 

Apprently this resulted in a big reaction from the playing group. This was also after Max was doing well and had already taken 3 or 4 good contested marks.

Im telling you Declan and Tim Smith will surprise everyone this year. Keilty is one of the most impressive intercept marks i have seen for a long time. Remind me alot of McGovern from West Coast who also started as a rookie. Can also push forward and clunk a couple of big grabs and kicks goals.

A genuinely good modern swingman to have.

[monoccular 17,594]

On 20/01/2017 at 4:08 PM, beelzebub said:

The New prototype...lucky he's not 192 

Or 426 like our ex Nick Smith. 

[Satyriconhome 10,880]

21 hours ago, CBDees said:

I spoke to a bloke last night who watched the training session yesterday and he was very positive. When I asked him did he post on Demonland he stated that he wasn't a member (though he attends training every Friday)! It is frustrating to have 86 posts on a training thread and not a single one about yesterday's session.

There are a few who attend, but maybe some of  the 86 posts tell you why some read and don't post

[greenmachine 21]

cheers for the info guys

[ILLDieADemon 804]

Worst training thread ever!!

Edited January 22, 2017 by ILLDieADemon

[Dante 2,739]

Just now, ILLDieADemon said:

Worst trading thread ever!!

Who's being traded?

 

[ILLDieADemon 804]

Just now, Dante said:

Who's being traded?

 

Thanks, I fixed that up.

[Willmoy1947 4,150]

I missed the last training thread somehow, but i am still very excited about reading what the next one is going to be like.

[DeeZone 10,154]

I think that we have all been thoroughly spoilt up to this point in time!!! Lol!!!

[DeeSpencer 26,090]

On 21/01/2017 at 0:40 PM, Drunkn167 said:

During a full ground drill yesterday, Gawn was at the top of the square and someone kicked it to him. Just as he was about to take a fairly high mark, Keilty came from the side and used his body/hip just enough to nudge Maxy to the side and take the defensive mark. 

Apprently this resulted in a big reaction from the playing group. This was also after Max was doing well and had already taken 3 or 4 good contested marks.

Good stuff. I think zone defending will really suit Keilty if he has the awareness, fitness and confidence to pull it off. Because it's almost like playing as a forward. Read the play, position smartly, attack the ball.

20 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Im telling you Declan and Tim Smith will surprise everyone this year. Keilty is one of the most impressive intercept marks i have seen for a long time. Remind me alot of McGovern from West Coast who also started as a rookie. Can also push forward and clunk a couple of big grabs and kicks goals.

A genuinely good modern swingman to have.

Edit: Just saw this. I agree. He might only be a poor mans McGovern but he has the right tools. Same with Smith. 

[DirtyDees DDC 187]

I went.  Got to Gosch's paddock for a few minutes on Friday.  It's been a while too.

I was sitting in Hisense arena at the Tennis- and realised the boys had switched their training ground.  Great news...but there was a catch.  They give you leave passes at Hisense but they only last for a max of 30 minutes.  I said to my girl friend ...would you like a coffee?  I'll go and get one for you."  Very noble of me.  

So I took off...ran across Olympic Boulevard past the 'pies and past the soccer stuff...arriving at Gosch's approx 11am.  I only had a few minutes to watch.

The rain had stopped and they were running match practice (Melbourne jumpers vs yellow jackets) where just about everyone was parked in the Melbourne  jumpers' forward line, apart from 3-4 melbourne jumper defenders and a couple of yellow jacket forwards in an arc across midfield.   It seemed like a good idea for a drill - trying to keep the ball in the forward zone and find targets despite a packed defence.  

The first drill i see started from midfield. The ball gets kicked back into the Melbourne jumpers' defensive zone and Tommy Mac is running backwards with the flight of the ball.  It looks routine..but no...Tom drops the mark. 

They are keen to keep it moving...so he handballs to Frost (also in a Melbourne jumper) who does a deadeye 10 metre pass...straight to someone in yellow.  

Back to the centre for another try.   This time Trengove is running into the Melbourne forward zone, but struggles to maintain control.  The ball comes out, and the Melbourne jumpers had 3-4 attempts at finding targets or finding goals.   None were particularly successful.  Handballs were clumsy; passes missed targets (although Petracca did a great half-volley pickup, and then lost possession) and no one scored anything.  My last memory was Viney (aggressive little bugger) kicking from the right forward flank to the goals.  The ball went sailing over their heads of everyone and bounced across the boundary line to the left of the posts.  My 10 minutes was up and i had to run back to the tennis.

My initial reaction was 'Oh god.  What a comedy of errors'.  But I can be a glass half-empty person and it was a wet morning.  

Then I thought about the last time I watched a MFC match practice.  Cast your mind back to Feb 2012 at Casey - Neeld in charge.  I watched in horror as they struggled to win the ball from one contest,  then kicked the ball along the boundary line - straight back to another contest!!  And on it went.  No-one made space. No-one looked for a target,  and don't dare to centre the ball.  Gruesome.  

At least they moved the ball quickly yesterday.   At least they are showing more zip and flair.  They attacked down both wings and used Salem and Lewis as backmen to start the attacks.  

I wish I'd seen more.  We had a lot of guys on the  park, and still can't believe that Jordan Lewis was there yesterday in Melbourne colours, and we got him for pick 48.  I like what we are trying to do with the game plan.  Hey I'm not expecting miracles this year,  but if they want to take chances - take the game on - then i will dust off my Kaspersky Demons cap and give them a go.

 

 

[jnrmac 20,189]

On 1/20/2017 at 6:51 PM, daisycutter said:

that was a century ago, jnr......just sayin...

Well actually last century was only 18 years ago......

[daisycutter 29,756]

29 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Well actually last century was only 18 years ago......

pfffft, insignificant details....

[Red and Bluebeard 2,101]

3 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Well actually last century was only 18 years ago......

Actually it was only 17, but who's counting ...

[binman 43,900]

19 minutes ago, Red and Bluebeard said:

Actually it was only 17, but who's counting ...

16 years and 24 days actually. but who's counting......

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,910]

44 minutes ago, binman said:

16 years and 24 days actually. but who's counting......

Plus an extra second.