Training - Monday 9th January, 2017

[Cards13 9,117]

50 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

Tyson will be coming from a long way back as a result of this, which is a big blow as his second half of 2016 was as good as any mid we had I thought.

Saying that, as others have said, it opens an opportunity for other mids to step up - be it Brayshaw, Oliver, Salem, Trengove, or a surprise kid coming through.

Tyson is a goal kicker, and we will miss the way he's able to impact the scoreboard if he's not up to full fitness by the start of the season.

Fine let him come from a long way back, don't rush and have a rubbish season. Take an extra however many weeks need to get to as close to full fitness before playing, if that is week 5 then so be it. I don't get the need to rush for round 1, it's a bloody long season at AFL level.

[hardtack 10,127]

5 hours ago, Vogon Poetry said:

the other one who impressed today was Nev Jetta.  His kicking was very good indeed in all the drills and he was heavily involved.

I was actually pretty impressed with Spencer's kicking today...hopefully it's something he's been working on which will improve his chances at getting the back-up ruck spot.

[DeeZone 7,804]

Thanks Saty, WW and all other posters, starting to get a real good feel about this team of our's. Go Dee's!!!

[daisycutter 28,588]

given it happened pre xmas he is already nearly 3 weeks into his rehab, so he has a lot of time to complete rehab and make the season start

[Vineytime 783]

2 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

And as for the brick on the head to Salem, he laughed out loud when I mentioned it to him, a complete non story

No it's not

[Satyriconhome 9,983]

8 minutes ago, Vineytime said:

No it's not

Ok it is a story for Commercial Television 'News', Christian still laughed about it when I chatted to him

Looks like Dom's four to six to me was about right

[FarNorthernD 5,848]

5 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Good session from what I saw today...................

There seems to be a bit of man love between Rooke and Clarry, I expect those 2 will work closely.

..........................

As far as I'm concerned that is a match made in football mentorship heaven

Edited January 9, 2017 by fndee

[Redleg 37,691]

34 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Ok it is a story for Commercial Television 'News', Christian still laughed about it when I chatted to him

Looks like Dom's four to six to me was about right

The initials, ANB, VDB, JKH, BenKen and JT will all have a chance to push for mid field time.

[McQueen 17,864]

This might sound odd but how the hell do you dislocate a tendon? The patella makes sense but a tendon? 

Tendons are there to hold things in place and are fibrous. How do they dislocate?

@Webber can you share some insight?

[daisycutter 28,588]

5 minutes ago, McQueen said:

This might sound odd but how the hell do you dislocate a tendon? The patella makes sense but a tendon? 

Tendons are there to hold things in place and are fibrous. How do they dislocate?

@Webber can you share some insight?

a guess. maybe it just means a twisted tendon, like a rope twisted. i remember i twisted a couple of tendons in my knee many many moons ago. at least that is what the great bill mitchell diagosed. he did his magic manipulations which made a big difference and i recovered in 2 weeks.

[monoccular 16,129]

 

10 hours ago, DeeZone said:

Afl induction day at Etihad for all newly listed AFL players today.

Is that one of the myriad of sessions when they are, iter alia, told about their personal responsibilities regarding what they ingest?  The session that apparently the Essendon 34 (or however many it was) either ignored or thought did not apply to them. 

4 hours ago, stuie said:

According to 7 it is.

2 - 12 weeks is what the club told them.

 

Must be true if it is on 7️⃣?

[Webber 10,114]

51 minutes ago, McQueen said:

This might sound odd but how the hell do you dislocate a tendon? The patella makes sense but a tendon? 

Tendons are there to hold things in place and are fibrous. How do they dislocate?

@Webber can you share some insight?

Media typo. Dislocate the patella, not its tendon. A patella dislocation tears the tissue on the inside part of the knee as a result of the kneecap moving laterally (to the outside). There's also the potential risk of damage to the articulate surface of the kneecap (the underside). If all is well, he should make an uncomplicated recovery. Weightbearing load needs to be managed so as not to create irritability at the kneecap or potential instability. He'll be doing lots of bike and upper body work. 

[hardtack 10,127]

A few photos here:

and here:

 

[Domgus Petrogan 146]

26 minutes ago, hardtack said:

A few photos here:

and here:

 

Great photos.

I'm pleased to see Oliver looking a bit more sinewy!

[angrydee 842]

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

a guess. maybe it just means a twisted tendon, like a rope twisted. i remember i twisted a couple of tendons in my knee many many moons ago. at least that is what the great bill mitchell diagosed. he did his magic manipulations which made a big difference and i recovered in 2 weeks.

The man was a genius. Kept me playing when others said i was gone.

[faultydet 7,593]

7 hours ago, hardtack said:

A few photos here:.........

 

 

Good effort HT

Loved the pic of Cross from the first bunch. Looked like you were getting the eff off death stare.

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,246]

11 hours ago, daisycutter said:

given it happened pre xmas he is already nearly 3 weeks into his rehab, so he has a lot of time to complete rehab and make the season start

Dr Google reckons it's an 8 week recovery. So 6 more weeks of rehab to be conservative and he should be in full training around Feb 20- 27 at the latest, and hopefully be right to play West Coast in the final pre-season game on March 9, followed by a Casey hit out.

I would be unpleasantly surprised if he misses round 1.

Edited January 9, 2017 by Bring-Back-Powell

[hardtack 10,127]

2 hours ago, faultydet said:

Good effort HT

Loved the pic of Cross from the first bunch. Looked like you were getting the eff off death stare.

Thanks! Nah, Cross was looking straight past me as opposed to through me...fortunately ?

[old55 21,356]

15 hours ago, old dee said:

So far he has played exactly the same way he did at the Pies.

He is too short. If you are short then to be a regular at AFL senior level you have to be better than just an average player.

He is not particular fast or skilful. 

 

Soft call on an easy target - like your persecution of Chris Dawes.  It's too easy to say that for various reasons they are going to struggle to make it.

If you want to make valuable commentary on players' future prospects then stick your neck out on genuinely challenging calls like Frost, VDB, Harmes, Wagner etc.

[Fork 'em 6,525]

And if he gave them the thumbs down you wouldn't like that either.

 

Edited January 10, 2017 by Fork 'em

[Tough Kent 2,049]

Friday training has been switched from Casey back to Gosch's. Sorry Casey folk!

Edited January 10, 2017 by Tough Kent

[DeeSpencer 23,189]

16 hours ago, Webber said:

Media typo. Dislocate the patella, not its tendon. A patella dislocation tears the tissue on the inside part of the knee as a result of the kneecap moving laterally (to the outside). There's also the potential risk of damage to the articulate surface of the kneecap (the underside). If all is well, he should make an uncomplicated recovery. Weightbearing load needs to be managed so as not to create irritability at the kneecap or potential instability. He'll be doing lots of bike and upper body work. 

With Dom repeatedly mentioning it's his quad and Mahoney's reference to the patella tendon I think he's clearly done something different to a straight forward dislocation. Are you familiar to these types of injuries? Hopefully it isn't too bad.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,462]

23 hours ago, old dee said:

 

Whether it's "painfully obvious" or just questionable, I think we should be able to say so. What I object to is disrespectful commentary, such as calling players "spuds". 

To be clear, Old Dee, I don't think you've been disrespectful at all. I don't see how consistency of argument (ie, the polite way of saying repetitive) is in any way inappropriate.

 

[MrReims 305]

Any reports on Tim Smith? Big fan of the Bull but haven't seen his name come up much.

 

Please and Thank You

[Vogon Poetry 2,095]

1 hour ago, old dee said:

So if it is painfully obvious that a player is not good enough we are not allowed to say so?

Oh please.

It's not that you shouldn't say so it's the number of times one poster needs to say it and the manner in which it's said.