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14 hours ago, goodwindees said:

And there are idiots on this site that actually believe we have good salary cap & list management.

 If you want an example of outstanding salary cap (TPP) management, take a look at Richmond. We’d be lucky to have 2 A Graders whereas Tigers would have about 10.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Idiots?  Are you 12?

This thread is like a wet dream for WYL.  He'll be all over it like a rash.

Say one thing for Melbourne fans - they do know how to wallow in their own self misery better than anyone else.

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7 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Idiots?  Are you 12?

This thread is like a wet dream for WYL.  He'll be all over it like a rash.

Say one thing for Melbourne fans - they do know how to wallow in their own self misery better than anyone else.

Time to take your lithium.

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9 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Idiots?  Are you 12?

This thread is like a wet dream for WYL.  He'll be all over it like a rash.

Say one thing for Melbourne fans - they do know how to wallow in their own self misery better than anyone else.

Haha ? i was waiting for you to jump on here. 

This is not wallowing in any misery. This is looking at reality of where this Club really is. 

Did you watch last nights game closely??

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15 hours ago, Meggs said:

So goodwindees who are these ten Tiger A-graders?

Dusty, Jack R, Rance, Cotchin, Edwards and (Deledio) used to be their recognised big 6.  So 5 more.  Definitely would include Lynch, Houli and Grimes (now AA).   Last 2 are a toss up, maybe Prestia and Vlaustuin.   Tiges also have a strong seconds team.

I guess you are including Max and Clarry for us and then a huge gap to our Bs and Cs etc.  So who are our B-graders getting all the money ???  Lever, May...

I'm no "Goodwindee" but it's not the A graders winning games for the Tigers. They win the small battles across the ground and play a superb team game. 

We have the pieces but when you have perennial losers as your team leaders, and hot heads like Oliver and Petracca leading the way elsewhere, you need to find a way to motivate players to sacrifice ego and individual prestige for the team.

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2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Haha ? i was waiting for you to jump on here. 

This is not wallowing in any misery. This is looking at reality of where this Club really is. 

Did you watch last nights game closely??

No it's wallowing, I'm nigh on 6 decades.

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11 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

 

Say one thing for Melbourne fans - they do know how to wallow in their own self misery better than anyone else.

And then the violent swing to "we've got this"

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10 hours ago, doc roet said:

Reality check to self.

I was a boy in primary school in 64

I am an old man in retirement in 19

I will be worm excrement before we win our next premiership. 

You're making quite an assumption there ... NEXT premiership?

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On 9/21/2019 at 5:00 PM, praha said:

I'm no "Goodwindee" but it's not the A graders winning games for the Tigers. They win the small battles across the ground and play a superb team game. 

We have the pieces but when you have perennial losers as your team leaders, and hot heads like Oliver and Petracca leading the way elsewhere, you need to find a way to motivate players to sacrifice ego and individual prestige for the team.

This is the opposite of melbourne

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On 9/21/2019 at 11:01 AM, Fork 'em said:

Either do my kids.
Even though they do.
Same for me really.
Brainwashed from birth by the old man.
The tradition continues .......

As my adult children Wife and Dog keep reminding me!!

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On 9/21/2019 at 3:01 PM, Wiseblood said:

Idiots?  Are you 12?

This thread is like a wet dream for WYL.  He'll be all over it like a rash.

Say one thing for Melbourne fans - they do know how to wallow in their own self misery better than anyone else.

And what do you expect. The club has largely been a shambles since 1964 and probably a little before that. Melbourne were the first semi professional club who gained success on this basis and then rested on the laurels or should I say Caldwells until, inevitably, other clubs like Hawthorn and Carlton became thoroughly professional and we remained in a limbo between  a Saturday afternoon outing and a fair dinkum battle both on and off the field .  I'd refer anyone who doesn't believe this to read Brent Croswell's brilliant accounts of his time at Melbourne.

Whatever Melbourne did to overcome their pathetic status was always five years behind the AFL leaders'   benchmark. WE often improved but it was always not enough. In fact we have always been the NQRs. Many, like myself thought we had finally  started to get our act together until the 2019 crash. Of course we are angry.

Naturally football clubs, particularly professional clubs, and for this purpose I reluctantly include Melbourne in that category, don't like criticism especially a "crie de couer" from a long standing loyal supporter such as WYL. They would prefer us to yell loudly on the day and if beaten go home with a few consoling platitudes, such as better team won on the day or we would have won if Fred hadn't ruptured his heart muscle. I remember going to an after game wrap up at the SCG in the 1990s and the club members being told by an official that we did pretty well until we were overrun in the last quarter We were expected to swallow that.The fact is we dropped our bundle. 

I don't agree with everything WYL says but if it causes a few rankles among our more trusting and complacent supporters and even  perhaps among the paid officials, who all should bear some scrutiny for the 2019 debacle, so much the better.

More power to WYL's arm I say!

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Yep.
How these blokes think we should all be content with what this club has produced over the last 50+ years is amazing.
In that time we'd be lucky to be acceptable for 10.
The rest have been absolute garbage.
 

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