WHO IS THE BETTER #13

[WERRIDEE 5,211]

Simple 3 choices pick 1.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,391]

I’ll withhold my vote until Oliver’s career has also come to an end. 

Bloody loved Yze, loyal and underrated. 

Edited May 18, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[Dirts 429]

Jordan Mc kenzie surely

[red&blue1982 252]

Seriously! Jako was outstanding. Yze was very good. Clarry's playing his third season and a lot of the AFL world don't even know who he is.

Allen comfortably.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

B:  BERT FRANCIS  -  WAYNE GORDON  -  FEN MCDONALD

HB:  STAN FAIRBAIN  -  BILL SHELTON  -  TOM KAVANAGH

C   HENRY COLES  -  CLAYTON OLIVER   -  ADEM YZE

HF:  GORDON LINDSAY  -  JOE HOGAN  -  LES JONES

FF:  ALAN KRAUSE  -  ALLEN JAKOVICH  -  GEORGE LENNE

R:  MAX SPITTLE  -  JORDIE MCKENZIE  -  LES NICHOLS

IC:  FRANK SCANLAN

[WERRIDEE 5,211]

8 minutes ago, red&blue1982 said:

Seriously! Jako was outstanding. Yze was very good. Clarry's playing his third season and a lot of the AFL world don't even know who he is.

Allen comfortably.

Everybody knows who Clarry is. He is a beast.

[durango 1,976]

Allen was a mature age recruit and was sensational braking goal kicking records for the league and the Demons but his stay was too brief I believe if he had stayed healthy the Demons would have won premierships in his era. Yze was a good player but soft, Oliver is at the beginning of his football career and the upside is huge. A comparison is very difficult but my football gut says Clayton Oliver will be remembered as the best number 13  to every play the game in the league.

[Nasher 33,047]

10 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

B:  BERT FRANCIS  -  WAYNE GORDON  -  FEN MCDONALD

HB:  STAN FAIRBAIN  -  BILL SHELTON  -  TOM KAVANAGH

C   HENRY COLES  -  CLAYTON OLIVER   -  ADEM YZE

HF:  GORDON LINDSAY  -  JOE HOGAN  -  LES JONES

FF:  ALAN KRAUSE  -  ALLEN JAKOVICH  -  GEORGE LENNE

R:  MAX SPITTLE  -  JORDIE MCKENZIE  -  LES NICHOLS

IC:  FRANK SCANLAN

Nice! Now do all the other numbers so we can see which one has the best team.

[Demonland 64,927]

That's like asking which of my children I like better. 

I can't not say Allen Jakovich for obvious reasons. 

[dl4e 5,583]

That was a hard question. I put Jako but only because of olivers youth. I think in future that oliver will be no1.

[faultydet 7,593]

Voted Jakovich. Most exciting player I have ever seen in our colours. I still smile thinking about some of the things he did.

 

Oliver could be one of our best 5 ever players if he follows his current trajectory. Just needs the umpires to be able to vote after watching a replay, and he will win Brownlows.

[ManDee 7,077]

On the available body of work Allen Jakovic. At Olivers age Allen had not played. I think Oliver will become Melbourne's best ever player.

[Big Carl 333]

12 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Simple 3 choices pick 1.

Yze. - 271 games 234 goals

Jakovich - pure talent

Oliver - too early to put him up with Yze

[What 18,810]

Putting Yze aside as he had a very long career.

Oliver has played 43 games for the MFC, while Jakovich played 47 games for the MFC.

Both completely different players but both had a massive impact in such a short period of time.

In fact these two guys easily stand alone for this club in the last 30 years anyway for what they were able to produce in less than 50 games.  You wouldn't find many players from other clubs either that did what these two did in that time frame.

Edited May 19, 2018 by Petraccattack

[Lord Travis 10,167]

Are we asking who’s had the better career? Better peak? 

I voted Yze. The fact he is a distant third is strange. He clearly had the best career of the lot. Durable, versatile, elite kick and decision maker, All Australian, key component of multiple finals tilts. He struggled towards the end, and maybe others remember him purely from the end of his career? He was brilliant.

Jakovich was flash in the pan. A few seasons of utter mercurial brilliance, but ultimately more of a what could have been.

Clarry is less than 50 games in and should’ve be spoken about with these two yet. By the end of his career he will be the best barring injury.

[Deemania since 56 6,141]

14 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I’ll withhold my vote until Oliver’s career has also come to an end. 

Bloody loved Yze, loyal and underrated. 

Yep, the Oooze was phenomenal and I would guess that even Betts learned how to do trick shots at goal by watching him.

[Bobby McKenzie 2,169]

3 hours ago, Nasher said:

Nice! Now do all the other numbers so we can see which one has the best team.

Number 2s  would be pretty strong . Bob McKenzie (snr), Robert Flower, Stephen Tinjay and Nathan Jones for starters.

[Deemania since 56 6,141]

13 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Everybody knows who Clarry is. He is a beast.

Problem is, we could go way back on this one, players now virtually unknown. We have had some rippers, so many rippers. When I learn to manipulate time - through the realisation that time travel was discovered simultaneously at different points in history - I would love to field such a Demons team with the majority of players coming from the period 1962 to the present, and to play this team against the Filth at the MCG on Queen's Birthday, with Harry Beitzel as the sole umpire. Now that would be a spectacle!

[Jaded No More 57,905]

Yze at his peak was amazing. One of the best kicks around. 

 

[The Chazz 4,077]

Voted Jako because he was a proven match winner.  Oliver isn't quite there yet, but that will be a strong added to his bow in the 50-100 game range.

I still think Oliver will retire the best Melbourne player I have seen in my time, which is a time that includes Flower.

Yze was a very good player, but was typical of the Melbourne teams in his career.  HIs refusal to handball also meant he was suspect to high pressure.  I think Oliver has already proven he is a far better player than Adem.

[Maldonboy38 5,861]

Jakovich was a freak whose career was cut short by injury and laziness. His best was better than most. Amazing footballer. If he would have trained harder, and dedicated himself to a professional standard of rehab from injuries, we would have been a lot closer to winning a flag. 

Oliver is a very special footballer. His achievements for 50 games is surprising. Could be anything. It is a long time since we had a midfielder with his abilities.

But Yze was beautiful to watch. Soft - yes at times, but his decision making, general awareness and kicking... oh his kicking!! His ball drop was not text-book but it was poetry to watch him kick. He sustained a very high quality of football for a very long time so he easily gets my vote. 

[Demon Dynasty 15,451]

17 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said:

Jakovich was a freak whose career was cut short by injury and laziness. His best was better than most. Amazing footballer. If he would have trained harder, and dedicated himself to a professional standard of rehab from injuries, we would have been a lot closer to winning a flag. 

Oliver is a very special footballer. His achievements for 50 games is surprising. Could be anything. It is a long time since we had a midfielder with his abilities.

But Yze was beautiful to watch. Soft - yes at times, but his decision making, general awareness and kicking... oh his kicking!! His ball drop was not text-book but it was poetry to watch him kick. He sustained a very high quality of football for a very long time so he easily gets my vote. 

That was not so much the case early in his career Maldon.  He went from good to sublime though spending many an extra hour after training (often under lights at the Junction...sometimes the last player off the ground!) perfecting his lovely left foot and alot of that from close to the boundary deep in the pockets / flanks.  Took the odd speckie and i must have watched a diff career as i never thought of him as soft at any stage (more of an outside class mid / forward...i see a little of Yze in Fritsch at times).....

 

[whatwhat say what 18,955]

Who would I want playing for my life? No question - Jakovich, just, over Clayton 

[ManDee 7,077]

25 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

Who would I want playing for my life? No question - Jakovich, just, over Clayton 

The best of Jakovich was the best football I have seen. The best of Oliver probably yet to be seen. Yze 3rd in exceptional company. If you have not seen Jakovich do a google search and be enlightened.