Oliver is no 'stager'!

[frankie_d 1,471]

1 hour ago, binman said:

 

or

 

there is another version you tube from the FamilyGuy - If the admin watched this version, I would be banned forever!

[The heart beats true 17,937]

From the AFL website...

Speaking after the hearing, Schofield delivered a thinly veiled swipe at Oliver's social media activity.

"Being a little bit of a more senior player, I think it's always best to watch from the sidelines when things go to social media, so you didn't hear too much from me," Schofield said.

Really Will? I would have thought a senior player gets more than 6 possessions too, but knock yourself out.

I honestly think they challenged because they had nothing to lose. I think he's right on the edge of being dropped again.

Senior player my arse.

[McQueen 17,864]

4 hours ago, Is Dom Is Good said:

The MRP F'd up here.

They should've offered him one week, downgraded to a fine with an early guilty plea.

Would've appeased all parties, the ones who think that any intentional hit to the head shouldn't be allowed and the ones who think it was only a small hit.

Nail.

head.

[Akum 2,660]

36 minutes ago, Jaded said:

No time for social media when you are too busy crafting your fine skills of 3 possessions a game. 

Schofield did knock over Melksham a second or two late when he marked and got his goal.

That's what he seems to be in the team for, he's no good at anything else. An elbow to the face is just a normal day at the office.

[Akum 2,660]

9 hours ago, dpositive said:

Well have negotiated all the commentary on this thread and agree that logic or consistency can hardly be expected of the tribunal when there is conflict among ourselves as supporters.

i was impressed with the argument that this decision impacts on all demon players and supporters equally and agree.

On that basis we are all divers and whingers.

This is not correct.

We must now state that we are disappointed that the umpire who made the report was not supported by the tribunal. We regret that the tribunal appears to have ignored the AFL CEO statements that blows to the head are not a part of our game. We also regret that our medical officers opinion was not respected by the tribunal members and no alternative medical opinion was offered. The West coast player indicated intention and his thrusting action revealed on replay supports that.

We will advise our players to retain their mouth guards in their mouths until they are in the rooms to decrease any impacts from unexpected intentional or unintentional contact with the jaw.

We are concerned that with a player already experiencing multiple concussion that a future incident may have a more significant outcome and seek the AFL support in ensuring that any blow to the head intentional or unintentional is penalised immediately on the field and with reference to an independent medical officer at the next break, after match review of available video evidence by the tribunal with an automatic 1 week suspension increasing on the recommendation of the officiating umpire and medical officer if deemed intentional.

Any player intentionally contributing to an exacerbation of an intentional or unintentional blow shall be fined a proportion of match payments and if not supported by medical officers report, or video evidence of contributing or extenuating circumstances may also be suspended automatically for 1 week.

 

This allows for consideration of player ducking into a tackle or falling over in delay due to surprise having reasons analysed by independent medical officer. But given that tha tribunal is supposedly independent and seem to be able to ignore the CEO comments it's probably just a waste of time.

We have more legally qualified people than me on this thread and I would definitely concur with their advice. But boy it does give me the shots that we seem to be shafted again. No good can come of the current situation.

Best post on this whole issue.

Unfortunately, it's also the least likely to happen. The AFL seems to prefer leaving things so that they can be manipulated.

[McQueen 17,864]

In today's West Australian rag.

As if we needed anymore reason to loathe this mob.

Edited June 28, 2017 by McQueen
Try again with photo

[ding 5,126]

Hey West Coke.....

 

SCOREBOARD !!

[sue 9,071]

that cartoon makes me suspect that WCE lost a close game which they thought they had wrapped up.

Edited June 28, 2017 by sue

[Redleg 40,452]

So the AFL is claiming that their Tribunal in the Houli case got it wrong and that no reasonable tribunal could have come to that decision on the evidence. So they are saying they stuffed up.

The same tribunal that found Schofield not guilty of elbowing Oliver to the face, even though Schofield admitted doing it, though with very low impact.

Sounds like they should be appealing both cases. 

[SaberFang 7,151]

Good to see they're taking their loss well. At the end of the day, we got the last laugh. Judging by all the salty tears, they're really hurt about losing the game in such embarrassing fashion. Makes our win all the more beautiful.

Funny how you never hear so much as a whisper from these hypocrites when their ducking and diving specialists milk free kicks a dozen times a game.

[Chook 15,001]

41 minutes ago, McQueen said:

In today's West Australian rag.

As if we needed anymore reason to loathe this mob.

Atrocius, Just atrocius. Should anyone tell them that Oliver actually practices handpasses and clearance work the like of which surpass any 20 year-old in history?

Edited June 28, 2017 by Chook

[sue 9,071]

At least the appeal over Houli will take some of the media attention away from Oliver.

[daisycutter 29,465]

15 minutes ago, sue said:

that cartoon makes me suspect that WCE a close game which they thought they had wrapped up.

i don't even get the joke

[Skin Deeamond 339]

I wonder what Garry Lyon would do if a large strong man elbowed him to the chin outside his radio studio in Richmond with no provocation in front of multiple witnesses? The football field is for playing football not for common unlawful assault.

[sue 9,071]

1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

i don't even get the joke

Taking a risk that you really meant that... 

Old kids rhyme/game. Ring a ring a rosie we all fall down.  Thought by some to originate during some medieval plague.

[daisycutter 29,465]

3 minutes ago, sue said:

Taking a risk that you really meant that... 

Old kids rhyme/game. Ring a ring a rosie we all fall down.  Thought by some to originate during some medieval plague.

i plead seniors brain fart..........................forgot he tag line 

[ManDee 7,124]

Hey West Coast,

[Lucifers Hero 39,073]

Goodwin has vehemently defended our medical team and "To suggest that it was (described as) forceful enough to knock him over from our medical team was factually incorrect."  http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-28/he-doesnt-lie-dees-leap-to-olivers-defence

He has also defended Clarrie "One thing I do know about Clayton is he's a tough customer and he doesn't lie,"

Very diplomatic of Goodwin on Tribunal decision: "Goodwin declined to comment on the Tribunal's decision but said 19-year-old Oliver was not a dishonest person".

The club has now officially defended Clarrie and our medical team which, is what I was hoping for.  Nothing to do now but accept the umpire's (Tribunal) decision and move on.

[Jaded No More 68,692]

Looking forward to the next time we meet Sook Coast. 

Imagine if it's in a final this year at the G.... 

[Sir Why You Little 36,768]

Us against The AFL

It's about time we stood up. Been waiting a long time for this

 

[nutbean 8,838]

To be frank I am over it  - staging ...not staging...guilty..not guilty..

My only concern now  is that it does not affect his game going forward. That is all care about.

[Akum 2,660]

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Goodwin has vehemently defended our medical team and "To suggest that it was (described as) forceful enough to knock him over from our medical team was factually incorrect."  http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-28/he-doesnt-lie-dees-leap-to-olivers-defence

He has also defended Clarrie "One thing I do know about Clayton is he's a tough customer and he doesn't lie,"

Very diplomatic of Goodwin on Tribunal decision: "Goodwin declined to comment on the Tribunal's decision but said 19-year-old Oliver was not a dishonest person".

The club has now officially defended Clarrie and our medical team which, is what I was hoping for.  Nothing to do now but accept the umpire's (Tribunal) decision and move on.

Better than nothing,k but a bit "too-little-too-late". We need to do what every other club does and get on the front foot, instead of waiting so long. One wonders that if we'd had a "club comes out strong & defends Oliver against accusations of staging" headline on Monday instead of Wednesday, it might have had more effect. WCE were certainly on the front foot as soon as possible.

 

[Willmoy1947 4,009]

To make no mistake, WC by their actions have indicated to everyone how serious they took up this action.

Because of one stupid mistake their season, reputation and sponsorship could have gone up in gas.

Cue Mr Grace @ so much an hour with the "are you being served" routine, and they, the MRP, were

[doc roet 1,287]

If Clarrie hadn't gone down, instead took a couple of steps back and held his jaw, Schofield would be out for a couple of weeks.

The umpire saw it, as he reported that slimebag straight away, and there would be no talk of Ollie staging it.It was the fall that everyone was looking at.

[beelzebub 23,254]

6 hours ago, Akum said:

And should the club have contested it? Meekly backing down every time has done us absolutely no good so far. Clubs that have stood up for their players have been rewarded. Seems we either didn't see the possibility that this might happen, or we did & decided not to do anything.

Said elsewhere THIS is the lesson here. Contest the MRP !!  People often argue it's impossible to defend the implausible....well, here we have exhibit A 

We play too nice.