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5 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

he was seen with a white stick and a dog.

I'd still put him in our defence with the cane over past greats such as Tom Gillies. The dog could probably stand in for James Sellar as well. 

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56 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Steven May was released from hospital last night. 

Fantastic news! Rules out some of the worst outcomes you would think. Unless he looked like Hannibal lector upon release 

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6 hours ago, Nasher said:

Indeed. I don’t doubt it was accidental, but as you said, it was careless, which to me implies avoidable, and the injury appears to have been severe. I think Hawkins should be facing suspension.

Edit: according to the MRP guidelines, it would fall under the “unreasonable contact to the face” offence, graded “careless”, impact “severe” (or at the very least “high”), contact “high” (as opposed to body), which carries a penalty of 3+ weeks, or 2 if it gets graded as high instead of severe.

If that ain’t severe, dunno what is

And careless is generous: reckless more appropriate 

9 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

So either he needed no surgery, or surgery is delayed.  Or he had surgery immediately.

We need to know damn it!!

Surgery would be delayed. Too much swelling. 

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Even if surgery was delayed due to swelling, if his injury was very severe he would remain in hospital. Especially if they were worried about damage to the eye or if he needed very strong pain management. Fingers crossed he is on the mend. 

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11 minutes ago, monoccular said:

If that ain’t severe, dunno what is

And careless is generous: reckless more appropriate 

Surgery would be delayed. Too much swelling. 

I agree, about maybe being reckless, May had him by the jumper and was slinging/bringing him to the ground, Hawkins flung his arm up after disposing the ball, which might be partially balancing himself, but he seemed to know where May was if you watch his eyes.

Match review won’t cite Hawkins, but these things happen a *lot* with Hawkins! Just sayin...

 

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20 minutes ago, Ouch! said:

I agree, about maybe being reckless, May had him by the jumper and was slinging/bringing him to the ground, Hawkins flung his arm up after disposing the ball, which might be partially balancing himself, but he seemed to know where May was if you watch his eyes.

Match review won’t cite Hawkins, but these things happen a *lot* with Hawkins! Just sayin...

 

Him and Mummy have a lot in common. 

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48 minutes ago, Ouch! said:

I agree, about maybe being reckless, May had him by the jumper and was slinging/bringing him to the ground, Hawkins flung his arm up after disposing the ball, which might be partially balancing himself, but he seemed to know where May was if you watch his eyes.

Match review won’t cite Hawkins, but these things happen a *lot* with Hawkins! Just sayin...

 

Would that act cause that much damage though? I think there may have been a bit of intent with the swing. 
 

Did he intend to break his face - I don’t think so, but he should be sited for recklessness. 

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Hawkins has a history of raising the elbow, he is getting very good at masking it in the contest.

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5 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

I reckon there's absolutely nothing to what Hawkins did and IMO if it wasn't a Melbourne player on the receiving end, and possibly if it was anyone other than Hawkins, not a single person would be suggesting otherwise.

My assessment is just from looking up the MRP’s chart for assessing incidents. I am not angry or emotional about it, and I’ve got nothing against Hawkins. I accept it was an accident, but that’s not the question.

I don’t believe there is room in our game for players having bones in their faces broken in regulation contests. If it was a head-on collision we were talking about, I might agree with you. But I can’t see how swinging an elbow backwards like that is any less than “careless” (per the MRP’s chart), and surely the impact is at least “high”, if not extreme, given the injury. Which part do you disagree with?

My view wouldn’t change, irrespective of which players or clubs were involved. 

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