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  1. I actually think that the Liberal party will look to engage with Labor to get this through, not to rely on Lambie or Greens. Bec White... 3 failures at elections as opposition leader... there are rumours that the party position differs from Bec White.
  2. Ok, I respectfully ask you to read before commenting. I said, the Tas Gov contribution WILL BE CAPPED AT $375Million. The Stadium is costed at $715, which includes the $240mil from the federal govt, $15mil from AFL, the remainder comes from private investment.
  3. no. Edit: Sorry just to clarify. I dont' think this will proceed regardless of the support of 200k supporters. The Club presidents of the other 18 clubs will pull the pin on the project. GC, Sydney, Collingwood and some other clubs were lukewarm at best. I suspect Hawthorn and North are 'supportive' but secretly covet the cash that will no longer be afforded them.
  4. Sorry this is just total crud, and shows you know nothing about the two stadiums, Bellerive will not upgrade to this size, it's in the suburbs and York Park is NOT IN THE CAPITAL CITY. How many times does this need to be said!!!! Also, please everyone understand this. THE COST is NOT $715 or $1Billion to the Tasmanian Taxpayers, it's $375 Million.. the rest is being paid by Federal Capital works money, the AFL and private investors. If this stadium does not go ahead, not only does the other 400 mil not get spent in Tasmania, but all of the money that the AFL is committing over the next 10 years, (300+ million) for junior development pathways, the high performance/community football etc, that all goes.
  5. Test cricket has no rules stating that it cannot be played under a roof apparently. I believe that the issue is more that no country has ever requested that a test match be played in a roofed stadium either, so it's more that the ICC would need to make a ruling on such a thing.
  6. Think of the roof as much about protecting the ground from wind as it is about the cold. The proximity to the mountain, and the river leaves a lot of Hobart exposed to severe winds. Both Bellerive Oval and York Park are highly susceptible to wind, and it doesn't make for a good game.
  7. Again, you realise that the Gold Coast Council/Qld Govt had to upgrade Metricon as part of the licensing to get it into AFL. That wasn't the AFL paying for the upgrade, it was Taxpayer money. It was a requirement as part of the license. Similar with the showgrounds. This might appear different, but it's really not. https://www.themercury.com.au/news/opinion/colin-carter-all-the-reasons-why-a-new-afl-stadium-should-be-supported-built-in-tasmania/news-story/89f786e91033a62e61f6501f526067c2 This article is worth a read, Colin Carter did an independent review of the business case for the team, he then presented to the AFL commission and the presidents. It was mentioned (although don't think it's in this article) that the business case itself identified that a new stadium is essential for the team, albeit not immediately. The AFL and the clubs decided that it would need to be done as part of the 19th license. It was always identified as being required and being in the city itself.
  8. Hawks since 2001 and Nth since 2012. Given the last arrangement with the Hawks will be $13.5 mil for 2 years ending in 2025) it's not a stretch to assume that the Tas Gov (i.e Taxpayer money) could exceed $200million dollars for the 'honour' of hosting these Vic clubs. The financial / economic benefit has apparently been worth us doing it, so why do people think that a stadium and supporting a single Tasmanian team wouldn't have a greater impact. Can I honestly ask for those of you in Victoria, given the way Dan Andrews has wasted money ... would any of you even 'blink' about a project that would cost Vic taxpayers $375million? Its less than what you are paying to NOT host the comm games! Also it's somewhat amusing that people seem to think that the AFL has no right to ask for a stadium to be attached to the license. GWS & GC still needed a commitment from govt/councils to make Metricon and the Showgrounds fit for purpose to play AFL there.
  9. So about the same value as your incessant negativity brings to demonland you say? Sometimes if you don't have something positive to say, consider keeping your views to yourself. I believe you are wrong on the $$ value, I believe the feel good factor alone is more than enough of a reason to have Tassie in the competition, and the predicted 200k by easter foundation members that incidentally include a significant number of people who support other teams and live on the mainland would suggest that it does too. Who gives a stuff about the catchment areas when we are talking about this issue? I'd love to know the TV viewing numbers that have gone with the GC and GWS, I suspect the AFL wanted to get into the NRL market, and I doubt that the ratings are that solid, I firmly believe Demetiou made the wrong call, and I suspect the vast majority of people would now consider that to be true. Hobart as a market, is very similar to Geelong? Heck.... Victoria is a state of 6.5million, and you have 10 teams, roughly speaking thats 650k per team, Tas as a population is 550k, but Tassie will be supporting and behind one team. No one is 'Pandering' to converted footy fans. Tasmania deserves a team, and has done for decades.
  10. TBH if the AFL were serious about stamping out dodgy actions, they should notify clubs that if any player is seen to be doing what Nick Hind attempted on Chad Warner that they will also cop a 2 week suspension or a hefty fine regardless of whether it makes contact or not. That elbow could easily have broken a jaw or cheekbone. Gutless cheap shot by Hind and I hope someone from his club calls him out on it.
  11. At least the Hawks were targetting him near the play of the ball. Gawn is getting dropped sometimes 30-50m off the play. Those hits, body checks and bumps are the ones that are poor because he's not expecting contact, nor should he.
  12. we'd need a 5th umpire for looking at behind the scenes stuff... and we know how well they are going with the review system and the boundary umpires keeping things in bound.
  13. Anyone a little confused by comments coming out of Sydney (Tom Papley in particular) about Essendon and their behind the ball hits on their players? I'm confused by some in the media discussing this too. Two words. "Max Gawn" If you are so concerned Tom, call out the players that took hits at Max behind the play as he's going from contest to contest. Knocking him over, bumping off the ball 30-40m away from play. Sydney and Port Adelaide constantly bump, and knock Gawn to the ground. Some media condone it, and saying that because Max is such a good player that every team should do it, even calling out MFC players for not doing to opposition teams or defending Gawn. Can't remember who it was, but someone actually called out the Dogs, and why they didn't do it, yet others are saying it should be stamped out, and I agree. Umpires need to be aware of it, and call frees. Tom Papley, you can't have it both ways, either you are happy with bumping players off the ball, or the tummy taps, or you aren't, but then don't do it to other teams, or target players like Gawn.
  14. What the heck is this game plan that the Hawks are playing.... I mean by all means keep playing it :D
  15. https://www.nblstore.com.au/collections/tasmania-jackjumpers?page=1&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwzN-vBhAkEiwAYiO7oCFv9SwMEpGzhYgLUaPWI0AK9z7qNnUZT2bc5QgJeAIylxvD8b38zRoC86QQAvD_BwE I thought the same thing, looked at the NBL store for one team. It's crazy how many different tops they have!
  16. next you'll complain that they didn't put a facial tumour on the image.
  17. 27 years? Wasn’t that when port came into the comp? GWS and GC were around 2010? point is still valid tho I guess!
  18. Agree they are not actual memberships, but it’s indicative of the support this team will have.
  19. 60k as of 45 min ago. I’m hearing that the jumper is a foundation jumper, so those who don’t like the designs ,it might change.
  20. Could be mainly yellow with red and green, or white with the other 3 colors, thinking of the Jackjumpers, and thats how they have gone. I agree the green would clash with MFC, Carlton and possibly a few others
  21. yep, they haven't announced them but not sure how many teams the green will clash with, it's more a dark and light strip I suspect.
  22. Keep trolling, you might get someone who actually finds you amusing.
  23. Gonna let that slide and the first shot at a rivalry with a new team ;) Did you honestly think that the jumper would be anything different? I just signed up as a foundation member for the 6 members of my family. The order number was approximately #13700 I think. Most of the people on the AFL facebook site that supports the team and stadium are buying between 2-4 memberships. Its possible that there are 25k-30k foundation members signed up for this team inside of 35 minutes. Sure it's not a full membership for games etc, but if it says anything about a team and stadium and interest in a Tasmanian team. Edit: as of 8pm, the foundation member order numbers are over 19k. Given each have multiple memberships, there is a chance of 40k - 50k members signing up tonight.
  24. Yep 100%!! Tassie spends more than 7.25 million a DAY on health, a full 1/3 of the state budget is allocated to health. Putting 375Million (over the next 3-4 years) will not make a difference to health services or education services. The systems themselves are broken, not the amounts put into it.
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