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  1. 1. Will we beat the Saints

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The fact that we’re playing St. Kilda in the first round coming off a great preseason (rather than the week after an arduous trek to the Northern Territory) probably bodes well for us.

St. Kilda by 5 goals.

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43 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Am I one of the few people in the world who has never heard an Adele song

Until she had her disagreement with Spotify I had never heard of her

I obviously should get out more

PS Is she like Sherbet ?

Yes Jim .......she does a terrific cover of Howzat!

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49 minutes ago, Skuit said:

I was actually fishing for clues as to where you had been. You seemed pretty confident in the sponsorship thread that we were waiting to announce. Wondered if you'd heard word from abroad . . .

Been to Bangkok for dental work. I go ever couple of years.

re the sponsorship I was being a little mischievous, a lot of people were saying on here that the club was waiting for the best occasion to announce it. I was suggesting that the possible dates had all but run out.

 

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2 hours ago, Skuit said:

So the two points most commonly raised concerning St Kilda at Etihad . . .

If we go in tall we get killed.

How do we deal with all the Saints' talls?

Their talls don't all play tall.  They got us last year by forcing the overlap in the midfield and getting a free man in the goalsquare.  Their talls kicked goals, but it was on the back of superior movement and uncontested ball rather than taking contested marks.  We need mobile defenders and better defensive cohesion to prevent that free man in the 50 that they always seem to be able to manufacture.  It's not worth worrying about their ability to take marks. 

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2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Am I one of the few people in the world who has never heard an Adele song

Until she had her disagreement with Spotify I had never heard of her

I obviously should get out more

PS Is she like Sherbet ?

Exactly like, got it in one.

I imagine the grass would spontaneously die from her music.

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As much as we can play it down, and say its only for 4 points, and there is 20+ other rounds, etc. It's just BS.

This game is so important. Its season defining stuff.

We win and we will start to believe we are on the way.

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40 minutes ago, Moneider96 said:

According to Caro on footy classified, the "Saints reckon the Demons are getting ahead of themselves." Makes matters even more intriguing.

And what does it mean when a team is overly concerned about what’s going on in another side’s paddock?

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5 minutes ago, Chook said:

And what does it mean when a team is overly concerned about what’s going on in another side’s paddock?

Saints are [censored] themselves...

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52 minutes ago, Moneider96 said:

According to Caro on footy classified, the "Saints reckon the Demons are getting ahead of themselves." Makes matters even more intriguing.

Are you sure that is what she said?  I heard it as her asking Garry if he "thinks the Demons are getting ahead of themselves" to which he replied that "he thinks they are a bit". 

I doubt the Saints being so cocky...lots of unknowns for them in this game - both theirs and ours.

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2 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Are you sure that is what she said?  I heard it as her asking Garry if he "thinks the Demons are getting ahead of themselves" to which he replied that "he thinks they are a bit". 

I doubt the Saints being so cocky...lots of unknowns for them in this game - both theirs and ours.

Pretty sure it's what she said. 

There's been a bit of mail floating around that some of our players are ahead of themselves and the Saints and Dees players might run in to each other a bit given a lot probably line in the inner bayside area. Aside from the overpriced boardshorts salesman I think most of our players have put in a decent preseason so I'm not too worried about it. 

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13 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I doubt the Saints being so cocky...lots of unknowns for them in this game - both theirs and ours.

When it comes down eventually we are going to have to get cocky and the same with the Saints. We cant be the carfull tiptoeing around their thoughts type of side forever. Is it too early? maybe i dont know. But Lewis' influence is probably adding to it. He has been cocky for years, for good reason. What I hope he brings is that arrogance coupled with the drive to prove it right.

Arrogance is a gamble if we do well this year then it pays off in spades as "confidence" if we dont then the pressure will be heaped on the "big headed" kids. We will get some reality checks along the way but might be time to take the risk.

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After just watching Goodwin's presser this is my take on selection reading between the lines (to be clear none of this was actually said).

  • Watts will play
  • Garlett will play
  • Joel Smith will play
  • Spencer will play at the expense of Weid
  • Tyson and Kent wont be risked yet
  • Jetta wont play (decision rather than risk)

 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

After just watching Goodwin's presser this is my take on selection reading between the lines (to be clear none of this was actually said).

  • Watts will play
  • Garlett will play
  • Joel Smith will play
  • Spencer will play at the expense of Weid
  • Tyson and Kent wont be risked yet
  • Jetta wont play (decision rather than risk)

 

 

 

Sorry mate, but there is no way Tyson, Kent and Jetta all miss.

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37 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

After just watching Goodwin's presser this is my take on selection reading between the lines (to be clear none of this was actually said).

  • Watts will play
  • Garlett will play
  • Joel Smith will play
  • Spencer will play at the expense of Weid
  • Tyson and Kent wont be risked yet
  • Jetta wont play (decision rather than risk)

 

 

 

Agree point 1, 2. 3, 6

Disagree point 4 and half agree point 5.  I think Kent plays and Tyson will miss.

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Tyson will not be picked for Saturday's game and here is why:

- Positionally speaking, he offers the least when compared to most of our mids and given he's played one awful JLT match and one Casey game in which he hardly dominated, I'm not sure why everyone thinks he's a lock for round 1. He is both out of form and underdone and is competing against a young midfield brigade who have had full summers and played the majority of the JLT with at least one really good performance.

- We don't need another slow two-way running ball extractor injected into an already fairly one-paced midfield against a fast St Kilda side on a fast deck. Especially when he has no form behind him.

- Tyson would have been a lock a couple of years ago in this particular position due to the lack of depth and talent our midfield had. Clearly we're a completely different midfield and it's now our strength.

I honestly don't know why most have him locked. 

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16 minutes ago, juzzk1d said:

Sorry mate, but there is no way Tyson, Kent and Jetta all miss.

Why. The three would be going in with grand total of 65 minutes of a JLT under their belt on a round 1 fast deck. 

Again this is not what I would do, this is my read of what I think Goodwin will do.

I would play Watts, Smith, Garlett and Kent. Tyson needs more minutes and touch at Casey for the role he plays. Jetta shouldn't play after having no JLT time. I would exclude both Spencer and Weideman.

 

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21 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Ah... remember their first ground manager.... who famously said .... "no more walk ups... the people will have to get used to buying tickets in advance".

I think he lasted a month before he was moved on

I remember that match. Never got in until halfway thru the second quarter and even with our Melbourne scarfs they put us right behind their cheer squad. They are amateurs getting crowds in. " best available seats" Bull. Last time I bought a ticket there Brown (Richmond) broke his leg. Going Saturday though.

 

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31 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Tyson will not be picked for Saturday's game and here is why:

- Positionally speaking, he offers the least when compared to most of our mids and given he's played one awful JLT match and one Casey game in which he hardly dominated, I'm not sure why everyone thinks he's a lock for round 1. He is both out of form and underdone and is competing against a young midfield brigade who have had full summers and played the majority of the JLT with at least one really good performance.

- We don't need another slow two-way running ball extractor injected into an already fairly one-paced midfield against a fast St Kilda side on a fast deck. Especially when he has no form behind him.

- Tyson would have been a lock a couple of years ago in this particular position due to the lack of depth and talent our midfield had. Clearly we're a completely different midfield and it's now our strength.

I honestly don't know why most have him locked. 

It's easy to post this today after Goodwin hints he won't be playing on Saturday.

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It's going to be a tough game. Being round 1 is probably better for us than a few rounds in, or after an NT trip. We might get the Saints in their complacent comfort zone to start the season and pipe them. I doubt it, though. Not because it's Melbourne, just because the teams are similarly placed and one team has a significant ground advantage.  I predict a close game and Saints run away with 2-3 quick ones to end the match. Prepare yourselves.

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