Sam MaClure- "Hibberd to Melbourne, 4 year deal"

[What 18,810]

2 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

Maybe the Dons have bigger issues to worry about than Hibberd... http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-02/beveridge-admits-dogs-interested-in-hurley

Does everyone but Melbourne have an endless salary cap?

They have Boyd on a million a year and they are chasing Hurley....

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

3 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Does everyone but Melbourne have an endless salary cap?

They have Boyd on a million a year and they are chasing Hurley....

Apparently it is massively front-ended (cannot confirm of course, just what I heard on the radio).

[Adam The God 30,603]

6 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

I'd add Kent to the mix as well, especially over long distances. He isn't the most consistent, I'll admit that, but he can hit targets that are 50-60 metres away.

I thought about Kent, but his kicking, for mine, is just far too inconsistent.

[jnrmac 20,276]

6 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

I'd add Kent to the mix as well, especially over long distances. He isn't the most consistent, I'll admit that, but he can hit targets that are 50-60 metres away.

His kick to Jack Watts across the ground on Sunday was sublime.......not

 

[ArtificialWisdom 4,045]

10 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

His kick to Jack Watts across the ground on Sunday was sublime.......not

Not sure if it helps or hinders his case but that kick was a decision problem not a poor skill execution.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

17 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

His kick to Jack Watts across the ground on Sunday was sublime.......not

 

 

4 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Not sure if it helps or hinders his case but that kick was a decision problem not a poor skill execution.

This. He is a great kick, just sometimes makes the wrong decision. One poor decision doesn't make him a bad kick. 

[old dee 24,001]

2 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

 

This. He is a great kick, just sometimes makes the wrong decision. One poor decision doesn't make him a bad kick. 

I agree Wiseblood. 

But as you suggest  it does bring into question his mental ability. 

[george_on_the_outer 7,843]

37 minutes ago, Choke said:

Apparently it is massively front-ended (cannot confirm of course, just what I heard on the radio).

Yes, have heard the same....but....that means Bomtempelli, Hrovat, Wood, McRae, Liberatore, Wallis, Redpath & Stringers contracts aren't. 

That means next year there still isn't any room unless some of these are moved on or most of Boyd, Morris, Minson and Murphy retire.

Or.....they offer Hurley way below what the rest of the market will pay..

Just about every club would be interested in Hurley.  But only some can afford him.

[Diamond_Jim 12,687]

Begs the question why we did not use the last two years of non performance to front end a 6 year deal for Hogan.

The Dawes money would have come in handy for example.

Edited August 2, 2016 by Diamond_Jim

[Biffen 12,949]

17 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Not sure if it helps or hinders his case but that kick was a decision problem not a poor skill execution.

That was the dumbest option available, and the hardest.

Absolutely the worst turn over of the year- in a strong field of idiotic kicks.

[Redleg 41,942]

21 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

 

That means next year there still isn't any room unless some of these are moved on or most of Boyd, Morris, Minson and Murphy retire.

 

That's $2 million saved for a start.

[Cards13 9,117]

1 hour ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Not sure if it helps or hinders his case but that kick was a decision problem not a poor skill execution.

I felt like it was a skill he leaned way to far back in his action, it floated short. 

One thing I clearly recall from earlier in the year, coaches are challenging the players to be bold, to take risks. It was a bold call but I felt the skill was poorly executed.

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

1 hour ago, Wiseblood said:

 

This. He is a great kick, just sometimes makes the wrong decision. One poor decision doesn't make him a bad kick. 

Disagree.

 

He is not a bad kick, better than average, but far from a great kick IMO.

[Fork 'em 7,043]

Not sure he's better than average.
Maybe average.

 

[titan_uranus 25,174]

1 hour ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Disagree.

 

He is not a bad kick, better than average, but far from a great kick IMO.

It's semantics, but I disagree, I think Kent's kicking is actually great. The issue is almost always decision-making - at his worst he is dumb and lazy and that manifests itself in kicks like the one on Sunday.

At his best, though, his kicking is an asset to the side and when he is working hard through the middle of the ground, he is one of the players I want delivering the ball inside 50 (Petracca is another).

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

Just now, titan_uranus said:

It's semantics, but I disagree, I think Kent's kicking is actually great. The issue is almost always decision-making - at his worst he is dumb and lazy and that manifests itself in kicks like the one on Sunday.

At his best, though, his kicking is an asset to the side and when he is working hard through the middle of the ground, he is one of the players I want delivering the ball inside 50 (Petracca is another).

To me he can be a bit up and under, on the run he lets himself down sometimes by failing to take that steadying step or two. 

[Adam The God 30,603]

He has the propensity to kick absolute floaters at times, so he's certainly not a great kick.

[John Demonic 5,901]

Bombers fans already giving us a bit of stick. 4 years too much for a player who hadn't been in his career best form pre-ban. "Hibberd would be crazy to turn down 4 years" Wish him all the best as they like how he plays, but not worth the risk is the common line again. Obviously Hurley is the only one that could generate any emotional response from them (and me)

Edited August 2, 2016 by johndemons

[Redleg 41,942]

I wonder if Grimes will be the trade.

[TheoX 1,222]

28 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I wonder if Grimes will be the trade.

He's a FA, but that would be a fair trade if Hibberd wants out and nominates only us.

Edited August 2, 2016 by TheoX

[daisycutter 29,892]

29 minutes ago, johndemons said:

Bombers fans already giving us a bit of stick. 4 years too much for a player who hadn't been in his career best form pre-ban. "Hibberd would be crazy to turn down 4 years" Wish him all the best as they like how he plays, but not worth the risk is the common line again. Obviously Hurley is the only one that could generate any emotional response from them (and me)

in that case they shouldn't expect too much in trade (but they will, being essendon). we need to play hard-ball and wait them out as long as hibberd is determined to come.

[Gator 17,972]

4 hours ago, faultydet said:

Melksham at least needs to be given the chance to fail in the nominated position, just like Howe did.

It's obvious he'll be given every chance to succeed at his new club.  And one would think that will start in the backline. 

But it's a fluid process. 

[Willmoy1947 4,198]

3 hours ago, Biffen said:

That was the dumbest option available, and the hardest.

Absolutely the worst turn over of the year- in a strong field of idiotic kicks.

Bernie's was up there....

[DeeSpencer 26,273]

4 hours ago, jnrmac said:

His kick to Jack Watts across the ground on Sunday was sublime.......not

 

Getting way off topic but I didn't have a problem with that kick. We needed to open it up instead of bombing it inside 50. I thought it was a good decision and reasonably well executed. I know Watts is the man of the hour and rightfully so but he should've marked that. Had he gone a little harder it would've been an uncontested mark and given our best kick in Watts open space to hit a target inside 50.

[whatwhat say what 23,428]

Bombers high-ups very confident we will give up our 2017 first round pick for him.