The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here

[old55 23,576]

On 7/23/2016 at 2:44 PM, pineapple dee said:

Brad Hill is not anywhere near being in Hawthorns top 15 players. He does the occasional useful thing but he's a passenger on the Hawthorn bus. His team mates carry him for the most part. No loss to the hawks if he goes. Clanger numbers go down with him out of their side.

Brad Hill - 75 games, 3 flags.  There's no justice is football.

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

31 possessions and 5 tackles against the Tigers for Hill and 25/3 the previous week. He gives them a lot of outside run and applies pressure.

Edited July 26, 2016 by america de cali

[ManDee 7,148]

11 hours ago, schmuttt said:

 

So mods is personal abuse now acceptable?

 

Edit:- Obviously not, thanks.

Edited July 26, 2016 by ManDee

[Demonsone 2,037]

So were expecting a 21 yo playing his second year of footy to be a match winner???

Apart from how many goals his kicked what are his other stats eg goal assists,marks,contested poss etc??

 

[old55 23,576]

19 minutes ago, america de cali said:

31 possessions and 5 tackles against the Tigers for Hill and 25/3 the previous week. He gives them a lot of outside run and applies pressure.

The much maligned Matt Jones had 30 & 4 against Freo.  Hill is an ordinary player in the right place with the right attributes at the right time.  Really I can't think of a bigger passenger on the greatness bus.

[Demon Disciple 12,127]

7 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Really I can't think of a bigger passenger on the greatness bus.

Mark Blake from Geelong. The luckiest hack to ever get a premiership medal.

[dazzledavey36 54,944]

14 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Mark Blake from Geelong. The luckiest hack to ever get a premiership medal.

Mitch Morton?

[Mach5 4,767]

31 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Mitch Morton?

Mitch Morton made a significant contribution to that flag.
Blake just turned up on the day.

[Chris 2,892]

47 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Mark Blake from Geelong. The luckiest hack to ever get a premiership medal.

Bill James from the Tiges has to take that cake. Played 1 VFL game and it was a winning Grand Final back in the 20's.

Edited July 27, 2016 by Chris

[praha 11,240]

2 hours ago, america de cali said:

31 possessions and 5 tackles against the Tigers for Hill and 25/3 the previous week. He gives them a lot of outside run and applies pressure.

It's easy to be an outside player in a great team. Outsider players tend to struggle in poor sides because they don't get the ball enough. Watts being a good example. No surprise that his form has improved as the team's has. 

By definition, outside runners are downhill skiers. Every good team needs them, and every good team has them.

Edited July 27, 2016 by praha

[chook fowler 19,459]

1 hour ago, Chris said:

Bill James from the Tiges has to take that cake. Played 1 VFL game and it was a winning Grand Final back in the 20's.

Also Cam Mooney and his premiership for North - 1 possession and on the bench for 90% of the time

[KLV 1,765]

Listening to SEN now, not particularly encouraging news re Jesse from Brian Waldron.

He does Perth radio on Tuesday nights, says everyone is 100% certain Jesse's going home. Freo does not need to get him this year, and trade with Melbourne, they plan on getting him next year for nothing. This year they will get McCarthy and are going to target Lobb. How many tall forwards do they need???

I know it's not telling us anything that hasn't been said before, but still...

[Little Richard 6,262]

1 minute ago, demondame said:

Listening to SEN now, not particularly encouraging news re Jesse from Brian Waldron.

He does Perth radio on Tuesday nights, says everyone is 100% certain Jesse's going home. Freo does not need to get him this year, and trade with Melbourne, they plan on getting him next year for nothing. This year they will get McCarthy and are going to target Lobb. How many tall forwards do they need???

I know it's not telling us anything that hasn't been said before, but still...

And how do they plan on getting Hogan for nothing? The whole 'we'll snare him in the pre-season draft' scenario never really happens, and if he were to actually leave, Jesse isn't the kind of player that would pull a move like that and shaft the MFC.

I'm more confident that he is staying in Melbourne with every week that passes.

[mauriesy 7,296]

5 minutes ago, demondame said:

Listening to SEN now, not particularly encouraging news re Jesse from Brian Waldron.

It's not "news". It's a hopeful opinion.

[rjay 24,928]

17 minutes ago, demondame said:

Listening to SEN now, not particularly encouraging news re Jesse from Brian Waldron.

He does Perth radio on Tuesday nights, says everyone is 100% certain Jesse's going home. Freo does not need to get him this year, and trade with Melbourne, they plan on getting him next year for nothing. This year they will get McCarthy and are going to target Lobb. How many tall forwards do they need???

I know it's not telling us anything that hasn't been said before, but still...

With Hardie and Langdon.

mmmmm....not the best source in WA.

Waldron's info was a little unreliable, at first he was talking about Hogan going as a RFA until KB put him straight.

I don't know what Jessie is planning to do, maybe even he doesn't yet.

What I do know is that Waldron is trying to carve out a media career and as we all know fear & controversy sells.

So 100% of Hardie & Langdon think he's going home but another 100% of Jakovic and Gossige believe he's not....so on my extensive poll of 4 WA broadcasters if my sums are correct he's 50% certain.

That doesn't make a good headline, 100% certain.

Edited July 27, 2016 by rjay

[Lucifers Hero 39,811]

15 minutes ago, demondame said:

Listening to SEN now, not particularly encouraging news re Jesse from Brian Waldron.

He does Perth radio on Tuesday nights, says everyone is 100% certain Jesse's going home. Freo does not need to get him this year, and trade with Melbourne, they plan on getting him next year for nothing. This year they will get McCarthy and are going to target Lobb. How many tall forwards do they need???

I know it's not telling us anything that hasn't been said before, but still...

dd, did you get the feeling Waldron was just trying to be provocative? 

He thought Hogan was a free agent next year and Freo could get him for nothing. 

Not sure what bs they feed him on Perth radio but it seems a bit short of facts. 

[KLV 1,765]

Hope you are all right. Thanks, I feel better now!

[DeeZee 7,396]

I love the tag "everyone thinks"

probably just means every redneck talkback caller

[Micah 59]

That SEN segment was a joke. They were saying hogan was restricted free agent next year among a few other questionable points. If the other posters above didn't already discredit it enough, be very mindful how uneducated some of these reporters are

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

Every player can be a free agent of sorts these days. Depends on how much they sook, tug on mummy's apron strings  and dummy spit. It's a character thing. 

[watchtheeyes 1,420]

They can be a free agent of sorts, but that doesn't mean the opposite of the trade doesn't have to give anything up.

He is the cornerstone of our future success. Who is Freo's? Neale or Fyfe? Neither is a key forward who are rare as hens teeth so you could argue a straight swap for either is still unders for Jesse (though I personally think Fyfe will come back from his leg still a gun).

One of those two as a bare minimum as far as I'm concerned.

Having said that, I still think we will sign Jesse for 4 years and he will depart thereafter.

[beelzebub 23,376]

3 hours ago, demondame said:

Listening to SEN now,..

you lost me at this   

[KLV 1,765]

9 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

you lost me at this   

It's a guilty secret, now exposed on Demonland

[chookrat 4,250]

9 hours ago, praha said:

It's easy to be an outside player in a great team. Outsider players tend to struggle in poor sides because they don't get the ball enough. Watts being a good example. No surprise that his form has improved as the team's has. 

By definition, outside runners are downhill skiers. Every good team needs them, and every good team has them.

Interestingly re Watts a lot of his best work this season has been inside. He's really stepped up in this area which is allowing him to influence results when game is locked in an arm wrestle.

[drdrake 3,163]

Can I ask why there isn't the same rumours going around for Patrick Cripps.  From country WA played at East Fremantle, if the Dockers are chasing young WA stars this guy would be very high on their shopping list.  You can build a midfield around this bloke he will be a super star of the game.