Potential Trades [Warning: Reading this thread may self-destruct]

[Binmans PA 26,121]

I agree that confidential info shouldn't be posted. However, knocking a bloke for trying to provide some info to fellow DL's, when most read this site to try and get some info, is a bit rich, don't you think.

I have seen plenty of crap posted on here on DL and on some threads I have amused my self by posting some as well.

However this attack on GNF is unwarranted. I don't care whether everything he posts doesn't eventuate, that could be down to a number of reasons, but at least you have something to read and perhaps get excited about.

How could GNF have known that pick 12, which was possibly to be used in other trades, which was to come for JT, would suddenly be off the table, as a result of a too strenuous medical test and subsequent X-Ray?

As for his riddles, he is having a bit of fun, so what, it has created plenty of interest and fun for others in playing along.

Lighten up.

I agree that it's just a bit of fun, but I also wouldn't begrudge DLers for being frustrated by little games. If you don't want people to get frustrated, don't play games.

Anyway, I certainly wasn't saying he would know anything about pick 12, merely that expect people to get frustrated (Exhibit A: the past few pages) when the trades don't happen.

Edited October 14, 2014 by AdamFarr

[poita 3,615]

The "don't deal with Collingwood" message has been trumpeted loud and clear every year for the past decade. Every year there are clubs too stupid to listen.

Why we have spent two weeks going back and forth over a player they don't want is beyond me. We should have put a deadline on that deal, presumably for last Friday, and moved on when it didn't come to pass. What players like Varoce and Beams are doing is no concern of ours, so not sure why it affects our deals.

The fact that we haven't moved on makes me think we'll do something stupid and give up pick 23 for Lumumba, as well as getting nothing for Clark.

[dazzledavey36 48,780]

Oh god some Collingwood muppet just rang trade radio and said Watts and Lumumba would be a good direct swap!

FMD

[Grand New Flag 3,226]

It's been a bad day for the MFC, the disappointment and trade setback is significant. I understand that some will take this disappoint out on those who offered hope. This is natural. However, all is not lost. Let's see what Roos pulls out of the hat in the coming days.

I note that the same people who have abused me (not that I care) are the same who smashed me for six months when I announced the absolute arrival of Roos in May 2013. Life is too short, we all love our club and yearn success. We are all on the same team. Personally despite my reservations on FA I remain optimistic, the most optimistic I have been since 2006.

Let's hope tomorrow is a better day for our great club.

[binman 38,161]

Oh god some Collingwood muppet just rang trade radio and said Watts and Lumumba would be a good direct swap!

FMD

Don't laugh. The way Watts gets bagged on DL i reckon there'd be plenty of support for that trade!

Edited October 14, 2014 by binman

[Bitter but optimistic 21,259]

It's been a bad day for the MFC, the disappointment and trade setback is significant. I understand that some will take this disappoint out on those who offered hope. This is natural. However, all is not lost. Let's see what Roos pulls out of the hat in the coming days.

I note that the same people who have abused me (not that I care) are the same who smashed me for six months when I announced the absolute arrival of Roos in May 2013. Life is too short, we all love our club and yearn success. We are all on the same team. Personally despite my reservations on FA I remain optimistic, the most optimistic I have been since 2006.

Let's hope tomorrow is a better day for our great club.

Being Optimistic is laudable GNF - just add a good dose of Bitter, to maintain a healthy and balanced lifestyle!

Edited October 14, 2014 by Bitter but optimistic

[Jaded No More 57,961]

It's been a bad day for the MFC, the disappointment and trade setback is significant. I understand that some will take this disappoint out on those who offered hope. This is natural. However, all is not lost. Let's see what Roos pulls out of the hat in the coming days.

I note that the same people who have abused me (not that I care) are the same who smashed me for six months when I announced the absolute arrival of Roos in May 2013. Life is too short, we all love our club and yearn success. We are all on the same team. Personally despite my reservations on FA I remain optimistic, the most optimistic I have been since 2006.

Let's hope tomorrow is a better day for our great club.

You suggested yesterday that we're looking at possibly 2 trades. I assume one is now dead in the water due to the Trengove disaster, but is the other one still in play?

I just can't see how we can make anything big happen at this late stage. We haven't even sorted the Clark/Lamumba trade, and that was discussed before the trade period even started.

Disappointing day, but whats new!

[Guest]

It's been a bad day for the MFC, the disappointment and trade setback is significant. I understand that some will take this disappoint out on those who offered hope. This is natural. However, all is not lost. Let's see what Roos pulls out of the hat in the coming days.

I note that the same people who have abused me (not that I care) are the same who smashed me for six months when I announced the absolute arrival of Roos in May 2013. Life is too short, we all love our club and yearn success. We are all on the same team. Personally despite my reservations on FA I remain optimistic, the most optimistic I have been since 2006.

Let's hope tomorrow is a better day for our great club.

Credit where it's due for your persistence.

[Dr. Gonzo 22,415]

It's been a bad day for the MFC, the disappointment and trade setback is significant. I understand that some will take this disappoint out on those who offered hope. This is natural. However, all is not lost. Let's see what Roos pulls out of the hat in the coming days.

I note that the same people who have abused me (not that I care) are the same who smashed me for six months when I announced the absolute arrival of Roos in May 2013. Life is too short, we all love our club and yearn success. We are all on the same team. Personally despite my reservations on FA I remain optimistic, the most optimistic I have been since 2006.

Let's hope tomorrow is a better day for our great club.

The clock's ticking, they've got 45 hours to pull something out.

[rjay 23,922]

Yes, they have offered pick 21 for Stanley!!

No way will they give us their 1st round especially if Stanley is on their radar. Perhaps Geelong has word that Varcoe is hesitating so can't be bothered trying to make the Mitch deal work and Stanley is a better risk/reward bet. Be prepared to be 'stuck' with Mitch.

Maybe we should have played harder, earlier but we now seem to have got ourselves piggy backing on other trades and losing control of the Mitch/HL/Frost trades.

Motto: never, ever trade with Collingwood...if they had accepted Geelongs 2nd round 30+++ pick (for HL) in the first place the deal would have been done on day !

Happy to be stuck with Mitch...Stanley can't play...

[Binmans PA 26,121]

So we try to accommodate MC by sending him where he wants to go when we should have just sent him where we would get the best deal.. To top it off we try to get ruthless by trying to trade a loyal guy against his wishes and it blows up in our face spectacularly.

FAIL FAIL FAIL.

Let's just see how the week ends, SD.

[SaberFang 7,141]

MFCSS: The Varcoe/Lamumba/Clark trade will fall apart when Collingwood drag their heals, when they attempt to force our hand and get pick 23 off us for Lamumba.

We'll then lose Clark for nothing.

Edited October 14, 2014 by Lamashtu

[Demon Disciple 10,962]

It's been a bad day for the MFC, the disappointment and trade setback is significant. I understand that some will take this disappoint out on those who offered hope. This is natural. However, all is not lost. Let's see what Roos pulls out of the hat in the coming days.

I note that the same people who have abused me (not that I care) are the same who smashed me for six months when I announced the absolute arrival of Roos in May 2013. Life is too short, we all love our club and yearn success. We are all on the same team. Personally despite my reservations on FA I remain optimistic, the most optimistic I have been since 2006.

Let's hope tomorrow is a better day for our great club.

It would be truly short-sighted by the MFC if we didn't have a back-up plan if something were to go against us in trade discussions. Quite remarkable if we were basing our plans on the perfect trade week with no contingency plans.

[nutbean 8,837]

It's been a bad day for the MFC, the disappointment and trade setback is significant. I understand that some will take this disappoint out on those who offered hope. This is natural. However, all is not lost. Let's see what Roos pulls out of the hat in the coming days.

I note that the same people who have abused me (not that I care) are the same who smashed me for six months when I announced the absolute arrival of Roos in May 2013. Life is too short, we all love our club and yearn success. We are all on the same team. Personally despite my reservations on FA I remain optimistic, the most optimistic I have been since 2006.

Let's hope tomorrow is a better day for our great club.

I do get slightly irritated at those who just think that players are queuing up to come to our club and the opposition clubs are just going to let them walk. We are slightly more attractive now we have Roos but many keep forgetting that we finished 2nd bottom and are not looking at finals contention in the short term. Trading is very complicated unless we are talking about NQR's, other clubs refuse, pre-retiree's and last chance footballers. The big ticket items are difficult to dislodge and usually have a preference for a better club.

I am sure we have thrown a net over lots of potentials with lots of knock backs and lots of not being able to dislodge them from their clubs. We have one and half days and i am philosophical about what will happen. We will either get a ready made footballer or go to the draft with pick and 2 and 3

[nutbean 8,837]

It would be truly short-sighted by the MFC if we didn't have a back-up plan if something were to go against us in trade discussions. Quite remarkable if we were basing our plans on the perfect trade week with no contingency plans.

Exactly what contingencies would you like.

Players have to actually WANT to come to our club.

You make it sound like that club should have all these players who simply want out of their club to come to us. Besides Essendon, we would rank with Stkilda and now maybe the dogs as least popular destination.

Trading is a three way proposition - we have to want a player, the player has to want to come to us and we have to be able to satisfy the other club ( its just that easy)

[dazzledavey36 48,780]

Warchest......

[Gorgoroth 12,324]

Warchest......

Hairy chest?

[bing181 8,167]

Trading is a three way proposition -

More than three ... we just as often have to satisfy the player's wife/partner, other players in our own club, player managers, the AFL etc. etc.. Very long list.

[Demon Disciple 10,962]

Exactly what contingencies would you like.

What contingency? It would be extremely naive of the club if all our trade ideas were hinged on everything going according to plan.

How about a contingency plan that allows for a bump or 2 in the road. So that if something unplanned is to happen, it doesn't send all our trade ideas down the drain.

What contingency plan? ..............................Let's call it the 'common sense' contingency plan.

Edited October 14, 2014 by Demon Disciple

[jnrmac 18,980]

Purple said we were using the scattergun approach again. FMD he is a moron

[DemonOX 8,530]

Never thought that the trade period could actually potentially be worse than our season!

Time will tell.

[JTR 2,632]

So, lets just assume the following rumors are correct...

A. Getting 2 'best on our list' A-grade players, while keeping pick 2

B. Kennedy for 2, 3 & 23

Surely having pick 12 (Trengove) is not the only reason for going from A to B ?

[rjay 23,922]

So, lets just assume the following rumors are correct...

A. Getting 2 'best on our list' A-grade players, while keeping pick 2

B. Kennedy for 2, 3 & 23

Surely having pick 12 (Trengove) is not the only reason for going from A to B ?

We won't be doing B...

[Demoneyes 562]

The thing that troubles me most about the mooted Clark, Varcoe, HL trade is that we are getting screwed unless Geelong don't throw in their first or second round pick to equalise things. Otherwise we might as well make the same offer (to trade MC) to Collingwood when we deal on HL. Personally, I am very tempted to call MC's bluff and tell him that he is more value to us as a Demon beyond 31 October and we will use our second pick in the PSD to retain his services!

What current trade positions do we have other than 2, 3 & 23? I would offer Maggotwood pick around 40 or so and say that's it.

And the cats? What is their first pick? I don't think getting Lumumba in a 3 way trade is a good deal for us

[P-man 13,168]

We won't be doing B...

B is insanity. He's 27 next year ffs.