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Really? I think if we get pick 3 it will be the biggest swindle since the great train robbery

So would I if we were placed in the top half of the comp.

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What BS.

The guy stands up for a soon to be former colleague and we are rabid about it.

Effing ridiculous.

Are you kidding me? A bloke carps all over our jumper and its 35,000 supporters with one of the most gutless, dishonest betrayals you will ever see and Dunn backs him up, bagging the supporters.. because he is also just there for a paycheck and doesn't give a rats about US who are the ones it is all about

you think that's OK because is a 'former colleague' ? You would never find a senior player at a real club taking that stance

funny the comment was later removed huh

Dunn himself should be kissing all our feet for paying his wages for many many below average years before he has finally repaid something in the last couple

he should be defending the jumper and the supporters not condemning them

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Agreed

Dunn was a fool to make that post

no Hawk players would have stuck up for Buddy after he ditched them, in fact as soon as he announced he was gone he became the enemy

And all Buddy did was leave via free agency, Clark burned us in the most disgusting way possible

I hope the players despise Clark after what he did to us, although its now obvious Dunn isnt one of them

Just a slight correction. You better check again on " the no hawks stuck up for buddy". I vividly remember roughead and Mitchell being interviewed after buddy's defection and whilst they said he is now just another player at another club they understood his decision. Supporters and coaches don't like free agency but it certainly benefits players.

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If you had been a key position back for the MFC for the past 7 years, you reckon you wouldn't be getting the hell out? I don't blame him. Let's just get the best compo and use that correctly.

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I voted that he would stay, believing that under Roos we would become a much better team and Chip would play an integral role in that transition.

But after watching his half-arsed attempts (both on and off the field) at being sufficiently interested in driving the change Roos and Jackson have embarked upon, I quickly became more hopeful of him leaving and taking his shitty attitude with him. I didnt really buy it when Roos said he puts in around the club, trains at 100% at all times and gives every indication he wants to remain a Demon.

I don't blame him for leaving but I do blame him for the [censored]-weak charade of a season he chose to leave us with as a parting gesture.

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Dunn was simply looking out for a friend, a friend who has depression which can cause suicide.

Imagine if Mitch read some of the stuff that was said about him on Facebook, Charlotte Dawson anyone?

I know that Dunny is just as upset as us that Mitch is going tp be playing elsewhere, but the personal attacks he read, as well as the personal attacks I noticed as well offended him.

Just because he loves the club and the good fans doesn't mean he has to like all the morons personally attacking a guy with depression trying to change his life from the horror he had been living in.

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Just curious. I was responding to the guy who asked how 105 people could possibly be voting they thought he would stay, in a poll that was set up about 16 years ago, which would sort of explain it...

Yes you can, this site panders to those that think they are always right, wouldn't want something like a vote to contradict yourself ;-)

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I'm a bit like Nasher. Pretty much ambivalent about him because it's been obvious watching him play through most of the season that his heart wasn't in the club and that he wanted to go elsewhere. I had the same feeling about Colin Sylvia before him and Beamer and Jared Rivers before that and of course, Scully in 2011 and it's not confined to just them. This is one of the evils of free agency and will continue to hound particularly the lesser clubs as long as we retain it in the present form or perhaps until the football world comes to accept it and what it brings. It's also symptomatic of the culture that developed over time at the club and it's no doubt Paul Roos' biggest challenge to overcome.

With these things in mind it's easy to understand where the club's recruiting policy is headed and why there is a push to bring in players with mature heads and experience at being successful at both personal and club level. There's been a massive void in that area at this club for a long time and it can't be underestimated. It's something that's brought down our last few coaches and we can see what's happened at Gold Coast that lacked it, particularly after Junior went down.

The one thing that is imperative in my view is the need to formulate a further contract with Nathan Jones that recognises his importance to the club and his leadership value and which establishes his commitment to the club going forward. There have been many theories about why the club's performances fell away in the latter half of the season and Josh Mahoney put it down yesterday to the number of players who had restricted preseasons and the impact of this on their fitness in the end.

There's some truth in that but another aspect was the fact that we had at least one of our key players putting in half hearted performances while another who plays with full commitment and professionalism out for several weeks with a broken leg. Without wishing ill on anyone, had it been the other way around, we would have won a few more games at the end because, as we've learned over the past few years, players who are not committed to the cause are a cancer to a club.

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103 people still think he will stay.

No wonder you didn't play in the backline during 2014

Roosy knew.

So you think it had nothing to do with the fact that we had no-one over 5'2" to play in the forward line for the early part of the season ?

Guesswork at best.

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Off to the hawks I reckon, and maybe not the highest coin. If he wants finals guaranteed, then its hawks or freo.

If the coin is not high, compo might be lower than we hoped.

Sadly.

If he wants finals guaranteed then he'd want to lift his game or else the only finals he'll be playing in is if Box Hill are thereabouts again next year.

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If the coach said all players abstain from sex the night before games there would be a few posters here that would believe it, spurn doubters and vigorously defend their position even after proven wrong.

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Oh well ...break a leg James!!

hey.... go the full 10 yards and break both !!!

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I don't get this attitude that some people have that players should give undying loyalty to a club, just because the club drafted them X years ago, regardless of how the club has performed and how the club has treated them. The player's only obligation is to give all they have for the term of their contract. Once their contract expires they have the right to get the best outcome for themselves, just as any worker does, irrespective of whether they are working as a cleaner for $20 per hour or as a CEO for $10M per annum.

As with Scully, I don't blame Frawley for taking an offer that nobody in their right mind would knock back. Clark, on the other hand, is a completely different story and I have no qualms wishing him the worst of luck for the remainder of his contract.

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Are you kidding me? A bloke carps all over our jumper and its 35,000 supporters with one of the most gutless, dishonest betrayals you will ever see and Dunn backs him up, bagging the supporters.. because he is also just there for a paycheck and doesn't give a rats about US who are the ones it is all about

you think that's OK because is a 'former colleague' ? You would never find a senior player at a real club taking that stance

funny the comment was later removed huh

Dunn himself should be kissing all our feet for paying his wages for many many below average years before he has finally repaid something in the last couple

he should be defending the jumper and the supporters not condemning them

The club probably advised him to remove it because he should not be conversing with the nuff-nuffs who are frothing at the mouth.

Dunn knows Clark, probably is good friends with him, that doesn't change because he leaves the Demons.

It's pathetically naïve of you to think that the players should spurn other players that leave a club. Clubs treat players as chattel to achieve an end, players are aware that their careers are at the mercy of those at the clubs.

Many on here want to trade out all but a few players - if the club can spurn a player on a whim, why should the players spurn each other for a similar decision by one of their colleagues?

This is not some emotional investment in the club for them, it is their career, and we should get over what the club got over ages ago.

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Dunn was probably advised to remove it because it was as clever as dressing up as Wolf Harrass.

i.e engage brain first

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