Contract discussions put on hold for eleven Demons

[thaipantsman 180]

Brent Moloney, Liam Jurrah, Jared Rivers, Ricky Petterd, Matthew Bate, Lynden Dunn, Joel Macdonald, Jamie Bennell, Clint Bartram, James Sellar and Troy Davis.

Comments?

[olisik 4,060]

Already a thread on this buddy, we dont need 2 more

Edited August 13, 2012 by olisik

[DeeSpencer 23,638]

I'm not sure why Rivers gets thrown in with this lot. Potentially to encourage him to up his fitness base before preseason?

[thaipantsman 180]

This might be for a seperate thread but our Round 1 team next year may look like this:

Strauss Frawley McDonald

Tapscott Watts Garland

Trengove Sylvia Boak

Blease Clark Jurrah

Howe Cloke Davey

Jamar Jones Grimes

I/C: McKenzie, Viney, Chapman (or ?), Bail

Emerg: Jetta Evans

Gys and Pick 12 to Geelong and/or Port in some combination in some complicated deal.

Nice team. Chapman to start in the pocket and doubt if Davey will stay.

[Guest KingDingAling]

Brent Moloney, Liam Jurrah, Jared Rivers, Ricky Petterd, Matthew Bate, Lynden Dunn, Joel Macdonald, Jamie Bennell, Clint Bartram, James Sellar and Troy Davis.

Comments?

Yeah, I'd trade Moloney, cut Bate, Dunn, McDonald, Bartram and Davis.

One of Jetta or Bennell would be cut and I'd be still sweeping.

At the end of the day though, so long as Bate finally gets cut, then I will be happy.

[Demons 32 235]

Moloney, Davis, Bate, Dunn, Bartram, Bennell, Petterd can all go via delisting, trade or free agency.

Joel Mac and Sellar can go next year, keep them around for 1 more season for depth / senior bodies.

Rivers will stay, although I am still not sure he fits in our FWD line or DEF line in the future.

[The heart beats true 16,643]

Of the 11 I'd rate them as follows:

Brent Moloney - Gone. For his own future and the clubs he needs to be somewhere else.

Liam Jurrah - Obviously depends on the case. Have some serious doubts over his body now though. Looks like it might not stand up at this level.

Jared Rivers - Offer a one year contract as a back up defender. Deserves to be treated well I think.

Ricky Petterd - Gone. Shown nothing.

Matthew Bate - Gone. TIme is up.

Lynden Dunn - I see him competing with McDonald for a spot. Lynden has more flexibility and can kick the ball long which will become valuable if we get another KPF. One year contract if we don't bring in better players.

Joel Macdonald - Read above. Love his effort but his skills are poor and he's just stopping a younger player from developing.

Jamie Bennell - Gone. I think Nev Jetta showed enough on the weekend to seal Jamie's fate, especially with his injury.

Clint Bartram - Love Barty but his body has given up. Gone

James Sellar - Kills me to say it but I think Neeld likes him. If we get a big FA/experienced player from somewhere else he has to go.

Troy Davis - Gone.

Thats 8 gone with Green's retirement. Bring in 3 jnr midfielders (Viney, Caddy, plus one), 1 gun midfielder (Boak) a couple of project players and a KPF (love to get TIppett) and we look a lot better.

Edited August 14, 2012 by The heart beats true

[Robbie57 1,996]

Nice team. Chapman to start in the pocket and doubt if Davey will stay.

Robbie57, on 10 August 2012 - 10:01 AM, said:

This might be for a seperate thread but our Round 1 team next year may look like this:

Strauss Frawley McDonald

Tapscott Watts Garland

Trengove Sylvia Boak

Blease Clark Jurrah

Howe Cloke Davey

Jamar Jones Grimes

I/C: McKenzie, Viney, Chapman (or ?), Bail

Emerg: Jetta Evans

Rather than say who is going I'd like to see who is coming and for what spot.

Boak and Cloke is very speculative but I figure in part Neeld has to work out what team he wants on the field and then work out how he gets it there.

That determines who is leaving.

On the above team we need to get 2 mature Mids and one specialist key forward minimum.

We lose Moloney, Bate, Petterd at a minimium to achieve this (possibly Gysberts).

Edited August 14, 2012 by Robbie57

[stinga81 210]

Why would we pick up a 31 year old player in the pre-season draft? We may as well talk Green into playing on another year.

Replace Chapman with Gysberts on that bench too.

[H_T 2,941]

Paul Chapman................................................................................................just wow.

There is no way in the world Paul Chapman would contemplate leaving Geelong.

[The heart beats true 16,643]

Paul Chapman................................................................................................just wow.

There is no way in the world Paul Chapman would contemplate leaving Geelong.

I think the issue is that they haven't offered him a good contract though. I think he wants 2 years and they only want 1. I'd have him for 2 years while our guys learn from him.

[hardtack 10,186]

Dunn will not be going anywhere... it was maybe a close shave, but I think the club sees some upside.

[Dr. Mubutu 697]

Dunn will not be going anywhere... it was maybe a close shave, but I think the club sees some upside.

Very punny.......

[Deesciple 10]

I just want to start by saying that I'm a Rivers fan. Putting that aside and trying to be as objective as possible, I have racked my brain to work out why Harrington would put off Rivers' contract talks to year end considering he has been arguably our most consistent performer over the past two seasons. Now I think it has a lot to do with the uncertainty surrounding Chaplin.

Facts:

1. MFC wants Travis Boak

2. Port Adelaide are likely to lose Boak and Chaplin

3. Rivers would go a long way to covering Chaplin's departure

4. Rivers is a SA boy

5. Tom McDonald is developing very nicely

Rivers and pick 13 for Boak wouldn't get the deal done. Throw in a swap of pick 4 for pick 7, then you've got the makings of a possible trade.

Rivers, pick 4 and pick 13 to Port Adelaide

Boak and pick 7 to Melbourne

I'll be interested in reading thoughts..

[dazzledavey36 49,739]

since when are we intrested in paul chapman all of a sudden??

[Nineteen 159]

The club is in the interesting position that tere are only a very small number of players we would hate to lose. And only a dozen more that we would shed a genuine tear over.

Appears we are going to risk some players moving on to squeeze down the salaries.

If so, there must be a big ticket player(s) in their sights.

[Range Rover 1,935]

I just want to start by saying that I'm a Rivers fan. Putting that aside and trying to be as objective as possible, I have racked my brain to work out why Harrington would put off Rivers' contract talks to year end considering he has been arguably our most consistent performer over the past two seasons. Now I think it has a lot to do with the uncertainty surrounding Chaplin.

Facts:

1. MFC wants Travis Boak

2. Port Adelaide are likely to lose Boak and Chaplin

3. Rivers would go a long way to covering Chaplin's departure

4. Rivers is a SA boy

5. Tom McDonald is developing very nicely

Rivers and pick 13 for Boak wouldn't get the deal done. Throw in a swap of pick 4 for pick 7, then you've got the makings of a possible trade.

Rivers, pick 4 and pick 13 to Port Adelaide

Boak and pick 7 to Melbourne

I'll be interested in reading thoughts..

I'd do that trade.

Tom McDonald is a better long term option that Rivers down back.

Reads the play well Rivers and is good in the air, but not athletic or agile for my liking and gets carved up by good forwards.

[P-man 13,309]

Rivers would be a bad loss IMO. Jurrah obviously. I still hold a shred of hope for Ricky Bobby but it's fading.

The rest.......not so much..

[old55 21,843]

Rivers is a free agent - we can't trade him - if PA want him and he wants them, he can just go there - gratissimo

[Hiram Cowfreak 75]

Still feels like choosing between a turd salad and a turd sandwich.

Eloquent words indeed Nasher.

We've copped one steamer after another.

[Lord Travis 10,310]

If Gysberts wound up going to Geelong, based on how they've developed midfielders this last 6-7 years, he would be AA quality within two years. It's so frustrating that we can't seem to develop players like other teams. The talent is there, we just need to harness it.

[McQueen 17,864]

Getting rid of Rivers would be the epitome of 'throwing out the baby with the bath water.'

He's not that bad and has been a reliable player for the team this year.

Extend.

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

Getting rid of Rivers would be the epitome of 'throwing out the baby with the bath water.'

He's not that bad and has been a reliable player for the team this year.

Extend.

We have to sign J.Riv he doesn't have absolute stinker games, always reliable and a cool old head. His skills are ten times better then T.Mac right now so we need him.

[John Crow Batty 8,352]

Eloquent words indeed Nasher.

We've copped one steamer after another.

We should be thankful we still have a choice.

[bing181 8,355]

I, and many others are justified in expressing our somewhat 'defiant' point of view.

It's not defiant. It's just wrong.