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I highly doubt we will get Pick 33 for Martin, and trading him for Pick 53 isn't worth our while because it'll be like giving him away for nothing as I don't see us using that pick in the draft. He is probably worth smack bang in the middle of that at 43.. So, what do we do? Throw in Pick 49 with Martin for their Pick 33. If they're not interested, they're not interested. We move on.

Is anyone else thinking he could become a super sub specialist?!? We could do a lot worse than bring his energy and explosiveness into the middle of the ground during a 4th quarter... He's a hard man to tackle to the ground.

Happy to pay whatever it takes now to get Pedersen and Ray over the line. I'm assuming that our only live picks in the draft will be Pick 4, 27 (Viney), 106 (Nicholson) and 124 (Magner) therefore picks 49 to 80 are effectively worth nothing to us. Martin and Pick 49 to Brisbane for Pick 33 Morton and Pick 63 to West Coast for Pick 41 Pick 41 to North for Pedersen Pick 33 to Saints for Ray (or a slider in the draft) The wash-up, Martin and Morton for Pedersen and Ray. I'm calling that a win. Come on Harrington, get it done!

Perhaps consider a straight swap for Jordy Gysberts. Both 1st round picks... I'm open to a trade on the condition that the recruiting department thinks that Ben Jacobs can give us some better spread from contests than Jordy gives us. I wouldn't be offering the world though.. at the end of the day, I don't see Jacobs starting in our fully fit 22.

I like the parallel thinking outside the square, but doubt GWS would trade our pick back to us.. Two mid first round picks would be an absolute dream!

I would like to think we could be a bit creative with pick 4. I look at picks 4-12 and think that I could throw a blanket over a number of decent names that we could pick up with that pick. Wines, O'Rourke and Mayes seem to be popular amongst demonlanders, but without any great conviction. I, personally, am more enticed by the next suite of players. The Stringers, Vlastuins and Kennedys of the world. What would people's reaction be if we had a word in the Tigers recruiting teams's ear and suggested a swap of our pick 4 for picks 9 and 29 in the draft? From most reports, the draft is strong through to pick 30 and there's a real chance to pick up one of a number of players of the calibre of Coluqoun, Towers, Wright, Haynes or Broomhead with pick 29. I think the seductive thought of holding a prized high pick is often far too over-rated at the expense and this year is the perfect chance to exploit this by spreading our draft risk across two solid picks. Considering that we will more than likely only be exercising 2 or 3 more live picks in this draft, I would like to think we could finish our campaign with our final pick being in the top 30. Throw me a Kennedy and Towers in addition to our wins so far this trade period and I will sleep this pre-season one happy demon man. p.s. Pick 20 for Dawes - Get in done Harrington!

Let's put a little perspective into all of this... Tim Harrington's number one priority is to act in the best interests of the MFC. Picking up Viney with pick 26 (or whatever our 2nd round pick ends up being) is by far and away one of his main priorities. In order to do that, the perception needs to be that we will overlook Viney with pick 3. We have to be strong in our public convictions to give ourselves every chance to make this happen. If Gold Coast nominate Jack with their pick 2, the scenario clearly changes. It is then in our best interests to secure Jack with the #3 pick. Plain and simple. He means more to us from a cultural, membership, marketing, sales, future F/S perspective than picking up a Toumpas or O'Rourke (no disrespect intended to those boys..). It has been a long time coming, but I will sit/stand proudly as a passionate MFC member when GC nominate Jack with pick 2 and we come over the top and claim him as our own. GO DEES!!!!

Don't bothers... Cloke - I think that would be a mistake. We'd be paying overs, and I reckon Clark relishes the opportunity to be the premier key forward at the club. Boak - Although I'd love to see him in the red and blue, Geelong will find a way to get the deal done. I wouldn't like us to spend to much time here. Have a real crack... Goddard - I think his value is two-fold for us. I think he could slot in nicely as a quality CHF for us, and I'd also like to see him given the responsibility of being mentor to J Watts. Offer $750k-$800k as bait to see if he can be persuaded on a move. Wellingham - I honestly think he's worth offering our pick 13. He is exactly the type of player we need. Beautiful kick, good turn of speed, good tackler and quick hands. Wouldn't be surprised if Collingwood chased Robbie Warnock which would thwart any possible Martin trade. Straight swap wouldn't get the job done anyway.

I just want to start by saying that I'm a Rivers fan. Putting that aside and trying to be as objective as possible, I have racked my brain to work out why Harrington would put off Rivers' contract talks to year end considering he has been arguably our most consistent performer over the past two seasons. Now I think it has a lot to do with the uncertainty surrounding Chaplin. Facts: 1. MFC wants Travis Boak 2. Port Adelaide are likely to lose Boak and Chaplin 3. Rivers would go a long way to covering Chaplin's departure 4. Rivers is a SA boy 5. Tom McDonald is developing very nicely Rivers and pick 13 for Boak wouldn't get the deal done. Throw in a swap of pick 4 for pick 7, then you've got the makings of a possible trade. Rivers, pick 4 and pick 13 to Port Adelaide Boak and pick 7 to Melbourne I'll be interested in reading thoughts..

It's going to be really interesting to see which way Neeldy goes this weekend. For what it's worth.. B: Bartram, Sellar, Rivers HB: Grimes, Frawley, Garland C: Howe, Moloney, Magner HF: Pettard, Martin, Dunn F: Green, Clark, Davey R: Jamar, Trengove, Jones B: Watts, Bate, Blease Sub: McKenzie I've tried to keep my personal views free from this selection and tap into Neeldy's brain. 1. Neeld seems to demand Sellar in his structure, so even though I'd be reluctant to play him against Brisbane, it seems he'll take his spot. 2. He will have told Magner whether or not he's playing and he'll make a point of it by naming him on the ground rather than on an extended bench. 3. Watts he'll name on the extended bench because he would make a similar statement the other way. 4. I really don't know where Jordie McKenzie is at... he's had quite an underdone pre-season but he didn't play last week which confuses me. I've got him as my sub, but this could easily be Bennell's possie. All I can say is bring on Saturday because I'm chomping at the bit to see the boys get stuck in!! GO DEES!!!

Surely Maric is delisted, then we delist Wona with the thought of picking him up again as a rookie. It'd be cruel to delist Joel Mac. Is supurb back up and just a class act and genuine good bloke to have around the club.

Certainly is. And an exceptional one at that.

I still reckon we should explore whether there is any chance of GWS dealing with us for a shot at Ben Kennedy in the mini-draft. Love this kid! Surely it couldn't hurt to inquire...

Let's look at the facts here from each party's perspective. Fremantle Board: 1. Were dissatisfied with Mark Harvey (rightly or wrongly) and were looking for alternatives to replace him. 2. Have contacted Ross Lyon personally, to avoid creating a conflict of interest with Craig Kelly. 3. Have succeeded in getting replacing a coach with the absolute minimum of disruption. Ross Lyon: 1. Was in contact with Fremantle directly, to avoid creating a conflict of interest with Craig Kelly. 2. Has clearly weighed up his options and determined that the offer by Fremantle is in his best interests. Craig Kelly: 1. Ross Lyon did you a favour mate. How could you be involved in that scenario. Don't be a tool. Loyalty and trust is a 2-way street. I have no issue with what Ross Lyon has done. Look what happened to Mark Harvey, he was completely blind sided by the Fremantle Board. Who's to say that Ross shouldn't be concerned about his security at St Kilda? Half a bad season and you're out the door these days. It's [censored]. Ross Lyon has to look after Ross Lyon. There is no loyalty in football. The fact that this was played out completely discreetly and out of the prying eyes of the media should be commended. I feel sorry for Mark Harvey, but he receives his payout for the remainder of the contract. That's the life of a coach.

Pick 18 is our 2nd compo pick. Collingwood could hold onto it and use that "middle of the first round" pick in any of the next 4 years. I'm not suggesting they use it in this year's draft, because you're right, it's compromised and shallow. Change your thoughts?