GRAND FINAL: Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs

[qarocks 101]

I am as pessimistic as they come, but im not really "worried" about this game.

I believe we want it more than any other team, are bonded and play for each other more than any other team, and if we bring the "220+ pressure" which is almost a certainty, then the odds are significantly in our favour. 

[binman 38,076]

Perth 28-Day Rainfall Forecast

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[Demon17 4,557]

5 hours ago, layzie said:

Tell me about it! It is all I'm hearing. Anyone gonna make the slightest suggestion that this might kill the Dogs momentum? 

Ross Lyon even said that although we did well after the QF bye that it now grows exponentially the need for intense match practice. 

I'd like to hear how the Dogs would have had nothing to lose but with another week to think about it the pressure is now on!

Does Ross have the mathematics behind his exponential prediction?

Does he know how this differs from say linear increase......

Sheeesh.

[rufus 916]

19 minutes ago, qarocks said:

I am as pessimistic as they come, but im not really "worried" about this game.

I believe we want it more than any other team, are bonded and play for each other more than any other team, and if we bring the "220+ pressure" which is almost a certainty, then the odds are significantly in our favour. 

Do you know if there is anywhere we can see those pressure ratings published for this years matches?

[spirit of norm smith 12,912]

Pressure will be the key.  How we bring pressure , apply pressure and manage the pressure.  Controlled and disciplined aggression.  That’s the magic !!! 

[Fork 'em 6,507]

In a few years time the football world will look back at 2021 and say "Well of course Melbourne won it. Have a look at the list. Gawn, Petracca, Oliver , May, Lever, Viney, Brayshaw, Langdon, Pickett, TMac, Brown, Fritta, Jackson , Rivers .... 
They had a rock solid game plan with all those guns playing for each other and on a single minded mission."

Edited September 16, 2021 by Fork 'em

[Fat Tony 4,408]

I would tag Libba at the clearances but not around the ground. Mostly with Harmes and try to get him on the spread. 

I wouldn’t push Salem up to stoppages but let ANB push up. This would mean Treloar or Smith will outnumber us, so we would need to set up defensively to prevent losing out the front of the clearances. I also like Max grabbing the ball out of the ruck because we can win clearances despite being outnumbered. 

[rufus 916]

43 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Pressure will be the key.  How we bring pressure , apply pressure and manage the pressure.  Controlled and disciplined aggression.  That’s the magic !!! 

I was feeling pretty concerned after watching the Dogs on Saturday. Thought they were magnificent and their depth was really going to stretch us. But I think you are right...if we bring an immense amount of pressure to them then we can take away exactly what they do so well...which is release to the front of the contest. When they do that, they can use their strategies of mixing up their numbers and alignment in the next space forward to make it hard for our defence. The pressure can make it hard for them to get to the front like that.

Also, as I heard on the radio today, they love to defend via the scoreboard. I.e. get a lead and use the scoreboard situation to make teams start doung things they wouldn't normally do. Massive pressure from the start and don't let them get an early lead.

[darkhorse72 1,725]

3 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

Tickets sold out in 9 minutes according to The Western Australian. Over 120,000 hopefuls missed out.

One outlet state at its peak the queue was 180,000, most likely people logging in after when I did, not knowing about the queue feature.  At the in-person one at crown only the first 8 people in line got a ticket.

Edited September 16, 2021 by Darkhorse72

[Deemania since 56 6,141]

21 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

To me and others there was the impression that Goodwin didn't want to show the bulldogs too much tactically in anticipation of meeting in the finals. The Bulldogs had more to play for then and couldn’t hold anything back.

We all know that we can cover the assets of the Doggies ... and then some! As Smith (aka Cats' mouthpiece) has said, we are the 'most white hot team' he has played in finals - and that says something. A few other teams, coaches, key players are saying it, as well.

Attitude, killer instincts, team play will all contribute to this GF win for the Dees.

[Demonland 64,909]

 

[Demonland 64,909]

 

[DubDee 20,618]

I just watched the last few minutes of 2 close grand finals and I've gone from pretty relaxed to absolutely bricking it!

8 days to go!!   AArrghh!

[Winners at last 4,729]

11 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

King & Montagna discussed this the other night ... but failed to mention that Petty on Naughton was a possible way to address this issue.

 

 

 

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 3,927]

Jack Riewoldt sitting there wondering why the Bulldogs don’t just blindside the defensive player and then lead out like they do at Richmond

[Lucifers Hero 37,040]

if-the-gourmet-cheeses-haven-t-yet-been-ordered-by-stadium-caterers-then

IF ... the gourmet cheese platters with quince paste haven't yet been ordered by Optus Stadium caterers ...

THEN ...they'd better be quick. There is a lot of navy blue and red wandering around Perth at the moment.

The club being in Perth for a week or two before the bulldogs gave us a head start on winning over the locals.  The club made a huge effort with their 'get aboard the Dees' bus, some free food vouchers, some free scarves etc.  And, Max would have won over quite a few more all on his own in the PF. 

We will have most of the neutrals for the GF.  

Edited September 16, 2021 by Lucifer's Hero

[binman 38,076]

13 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

Interesting.

Curious that it wasn't noted that both Bruce and Jamarra Ugle-Hagan played in that game. 

Petty was one on one on Bruce for the whole game. Without Bruce in the team,  as bingers noted (and Webber too in another thread), we have the option of playing Petty on Naughton. Or we could go with what Monatgna suggested we ended up doing anyway - letting them have the match up.

There are a couple of other points i'd put to Joey if i had the chance.

One, Monatgna reckons that ring a rosie stuff happened all game. I don't think that is true. I'm sure May had Naughton for large chunks of the game.

Two, I know Monatgna's point was that they were trying to engineer a Lever Naughton match up (and i guess May being exposed on the quicker Hannan).

But Lever ended up with 15 intercept possessions and it seems to me Goody would be pretty happy with that that. Hardly an example of quelling Lever's influence.

And Naughton only had three marks and 2 goals, albeit it in slippery conditions, and Hannan the one goal so hardly a raging tactical success.

Edited September 17, 2021 by binman

[loges 6,027]

Having a lot to say is mr. Beveridge

[dazzledavey36 48,755]

 

[Superunknown 3,314]

Question - who gets the gate or what cut for the GF?

 

Did we get the gate for the QF or prelim?

[Superunknown 3,314]

3 hours ago, loges said:

Having a lot to say is mr. Beveridge

Is there a link to a presser?

[whatwhat say what 18,945]

11 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

Question - who gets the gate or what cut for the GF?

 

Did we get the gate for the QF or prelim?

the afl

from memory, the afl makes 75% of its non-broadcast revenue during the finals series, hence why they are so keen to make sure crowds can attend 

[Superunknown 3,314]

3 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

the afl

from memory, the afl makes 75% of its non-broadcast revenue during the finals series, hence why they are so keen to make sure crowds can attend 

Ah! The clubs don’t get any gate?

do they get the merch revenue on the day?

[Dwight Schrute 16,751]

The issue with the Cat and Mouse plan is that last time Josh Bruce was playing, and kept Petty occupied, i think we'd be okay with the match up of Petty on Naughton, and keeping Lever out of it, so it may not work as effectively, 

we did a lot in round 19 that we simply won't allow to happen in the GF, and that should worry the dogs because it was a draw based on predicted scores. 

[ben russell 764]

After trawling through a few pages and noticing it regularly…

PSA: His name is Caleb Daniel.