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It doesn't look like Lemmens got anything for the body slam on Butler.

Apparently these are OK but an obviously accidental elbow which slides up someone's greased arm is worthy of a fine.

As I said last week after Fritsch's penalty, the system is not working.

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3 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

It doesn't look like Lemmens got anything for the body slam on Butler.

Apparently these are OK but an obviously accidental elbow which slides up someone's greased arm is worthy of a fine.

As I said last week after Fritsch's penalty, the system is not working.

Absolutely nothing in that with Lemmens. He just lifted him up and dropped him. 

The May one does look a bit nasty but I agree he should’ve got some benefit for doing his best to not bump high or cause any damage. And players have to be able to pressure. 

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4 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Absolutely nothing in that with Lemmens. He just lifted him up and dropped him. 

Yeah nothing in it. Could have dropped him on his neck and broke it. Not to mention off the ball and unnecessary. 

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7 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Absolutely nothing in that with Lemmens. He just lifted him up and dropped him. 

The May one does look a bit nasty but I agree he should’ve got some benefit for doing his best to not bump high or cause any damage. And players have to be able to pressure. 

What if he or Rampe had broken Butler/Langdon's neck?

Then we'd all of a sudden care?

Both of them engaged in off-the ball non-football actions. The fact neither Butler nor Langdon got injured doesn't mean they shouldn't be penalised, it means the penalty should be low (a fine maybe).

May engaged in an in-game football action. Franklin's decision to oil his arms up is the likely reason his elbow slid way up from its starting point. He did little wrong.

Again, the system continues to look at outcome (May hits the head, Lemmens and Rampe don't do any damage to their opponent) rather than action.

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So its a free shot on Gawn every single week. They cannon into his back punch him in the back of the head and pile on to him when on the ground.

 

PLay on. No frees, no fines.

 

BS

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Looking at that footage it seems quite ridiculous and just stuff that happens in the normal run of play. Its a contact sport after all, or was..

Franklin should be fined 3K for over oiling...

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I know we won’t do it, but gees I wish we would have a total sook to the AFL about the treatment of our players the way some clubs do. Who knows, now we are a good team they might listen. 

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Steven May, Melbourne, has been charged with Striking Lance Franklin, Sydney Swans, during the first quarter of the Round Eight match between Melbourne and the Sydney Swans, played at the MCG on Saturday May 8, 2021.

In summary, he can accept a $2000 sanction with an early plea.

Based on the available evidence, the incident was assessed as Careless Conduct, Low Impact, High Contact. The incident was classified as a $3000 sanction as a first offence. The player can accept a $2000 sanction with an early plea.

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If it's the incident i'm thinking of his Elbow bounced off Buddys arm and clipped him high very lightly and Buddy took a huge dive trying to get a free coz that's the only way he was gunna get a kick. 

On Buddy. i thought the umpiring was disgraceful, i recall several times where took players on, dropped it and no call made, including 2 in the same play, and yet Petracca copped red hot calls at every opportunity. 

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1 hour ago, Witches Hat said:

Saw it on the replay. It's a bump in the first quarter that slides up and grazes Franklin's chin.

$3000 fine is a farce. Payback for Fritsch somehow getting off?

I don't have a issue with this. It was a bump that ended up sliding up Buddy's arm and hit him high, when he had alternatives to smother the ball or tackle, which to me fits the definition of Careless.

Fritsch didn't somehow get off, he had no opportunity to dispose of the ball in the 0.2 seconds between taking possession and impact with Powell which ment his brace and push off action was deemed reasonable and therefore accidental rather than careless.

I'm fine with all of this.

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57 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Yeah nothing in it. Could have dropped him on his neck and broke it. Not to mention off the ball and unnecessary. 

 

54 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

What if he or Rampe had broken Butler/Langdon's neck?

Then we'd all of a sudden care?

Both of them engaged in off-the ball non-football actions. The fact neither Butler nor Langdon got injured doesn't mean they shouldn't be penalised, it means the penalty should be low (a fine maybe).

May engaged in an in-game football action. Franklin's decision to oil his arms up is the likely reason his elbow slid way up from its starting point. He did little wrong.

Again, the system continues to look at outcome (May hits the head, Lemmens and Rampe don't do any damage to their opponent) rather than action.

Lemmens picks Butler up and just drops him on his backside, players get far more physical than that in their grappling training. There's no chance of him injuring his neck.

The Rampe one is different. I'd love an explanation of that.

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10 minutes ago, chookrat said:

I don't have a issue with this. It was a bump that ended up sliding up Buddy's arm and hit him high, when he had alternatives to smother the ball or tackle, which to me fits the definition of Careless.

Fritsch didn't somehow get off, he had no opportunity to dispose of the ball in the 0.2 seconds between taking possession and impact with Powell which ment his brace and push off action was deemed reasonable and therefore accidental rather than careless.

I'm fine with all of this.

Well you are a dunce then.  Contact is made with the shoulder which is legal. Buddy is oiled up so then logically the bump slides higher. Play on nothing to see just like the umpire called.

This smacks of petty payback because Fritsch got off & made them look stupid.

We must appeal otherwise it stays on his record then next trivial offence he will cop a week.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Cranky Franky said:

Well you are a dunce then.  Contact is made with the shoulder which is legal. Buddy is oiled up so then logically the bump slides higher. Play on nothing to see just like the umpire called.

This smacks of petty payback because Fritsch got off & made them look stupid.

We must appeal otherwise it stays on his record then next trivial offence he will cop a week.

 

 

 

If I'm a dunce then why was Fritsch's appeal successful and why will Melbourne accept May's sanction?

Good fellow, I suggest you focus less on conspiracy theories and calling people names and more on getting better at predicting outcomes based on logic and reason.

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4 hours ago, chookrat said:

I don't have a issue with this. It was a bump that ended up sliding up Buddy's arm and hit him high, when he had alternatives to smother the ball or tackle, which to me fits the definition of Careless.

 

Exactly right. If it hits Buddy straight in the head, it's intentional and May misses a week. Would rather the coaches have a word with the team about bumping/fending off leading with the forearm, than risking suspensions every week and whinging about the MRO.

On the Rampe one, that's a red card in rugby every day of the week and serious length suspension given their history with spinal injuries. He's incredibly lucky not to be going straight to the tribunal.

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9 hours ago, SPC said:

Buddy has been reduced to flop and stage to justify his place in the team at $1m a year. 

Just saw the replay. The initial contact was towards the top of his arm and with momentum and the excessively oiled up arm slid up but what made me laugh was he went down like a wilted rose petal. Toughen up "princess".

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7 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

Is it worth consuming the mental bandwidth, legal bandwidth, player time etc for 2k.

Computer says no. These little nuisance fines happen week in week out.

I agree. Except if May sneezes wrong for the rest of the season he will get suspended due to this prior conviction. 

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Need to argue the point,  like a yellow card, you will play less effectively for the rest of the year, also need to show that we stick up for our players to the AFL. And the other clubs

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1 hour ago, Jaded said:

I agree. Except if May sneezes wrong for the rest of the season he will get suspended due to this prior conviction. 

Jaded, I'm not sure this is the case. Does anyone know whether a player can be suspended for an offence that normally carries a fine if they have a poor prior record? I thought that the fines just get bigger.

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12 hours ago, jnrmac said:

So its a free shot on Gawn every single week. They cannon into his back punch him in the back of the head and pile on to him when on the ground.

 

PLay on. No frees, no fines.

 

BS

I'm still non-plussed that Nankervis can come up behind Max off the ball and whacked him in the back while Gawn is unaware and knocks him to the ground. No free, no fine, nothing. Kharma at least caught up with Edwards for raising his elbow and cleaning up Oliver. Suck eggs on your 8 weeks off Edwards.

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12 hours ago, Demonland said:

Steven May, Melbourne, has been charged with Striking Lance Franklin, Sydney Swans, during the first quarter of the Round Eight match between Melbourne and the Sydney Swans, played at the MCG on Saturday May 8, 2021.

In summary, he can accept a $2000 sanction with an early plea.

Based on the available evidence, the incident was assessed as Careless Conduct, Low Impact, High Contact. The incident was classified as a $3000 sanction as a first offence. The player can accept a $2000 sanction with an early plea.

I disagree with most here. It's been made clear to everyone that if you choose to bump, you wear the consequences, if there is a bump to the head, even if it's an accident. May should not have raised his arm to bump Franklin in the first place. It's just a dumb action (given the rules) and could have resulted in a more significant injury (hence the reason for the rules). 

What I don't understand is the statement that it's a "first offence". Really? Are we talking about the same May who has been suspended many times? Does this mean every player gets a "first offence" for every separate type of infringement? Wow.

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