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Hawthorn have had some dreadful recruiting in the last 4 or 5 years.

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4 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

No.1 draft picks haven't exactly had the best run of late have they?

Watts

Scully

Boyd

McCartin

Patton

 

Just the ones that come to mind. Different reasons and nothing personal as a whole.

Add Rayner, Rowel & Ugle-Hagen to that list for now, the curse of number one...

Whitfield is struggling to get on the park.

Also Scully & Kreuzer were cut down by injury.

So, of the 2000's the first 3 had good careers... 2000 Riewoldt, 2001 Hodge, 2002 Goddard.

...but since then the pickings from the pick are hit and miss.

Luck still plays a big part.

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Injuries cruelled his career like many others. Very ordinary behaviour off-field so hopefully he has copped on to himself and can make a go of life post footy.

It’s a poisoned chalice being No.1. Not sure I’d want my boy or girl to go at that selection. They’re just kids thrust into the spotlight and have the hopes and dreams of a whole fanbase projected onto them. I’d hate living in that fishbowl and under that kind of intense scrutiny.

Really feel for Rowell in particular. Burst onto the scene looking the real deal, future brownlow and 300-gamer. 2 serious injuries back to back is a big worry. I really hope he has some luck, gets himself right and can play an extended period of footy.  

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Yes, Rowell is an exceptionally gifted young footballer.  I’d be wrapping him in cotton wool for the year again. The Suns aren’t going anywhere soon. Why rush to get him back on the field?

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It's good to see Hawthorn's arrogance trip them up. Recently they have taken the view they are special enough that they can revive the careers of injury troubled high draft picks like Scully, Patton, O'Meara, and it's not really working out.

In case anyone's in any doubt, that's a good thing. The bad thing is that they've those four recent flags to enjoy. Oh well.

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Just now, RigidMiddleDigit said:

It's good to see Hawthorn's arrogance trip them up. Recently they have taken the view they are special enough that they can revive the careers of injury troubled high draft picks like Scully, Patton, O'Meara, and it's not really working out.

In case anyone's in any doubt, that's a good thing. The bad thing is that they've those four recent flags to enjoy. Oh well.

What's the difference between arrogance and backing yourself @RigidMiddleDigit?

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1 hour ago, RigidMiddleDigit said:

It's good to see Hawthorn's arrogance trip them up. Recently they have taken the view they are special enough that they can revive the careers of injury troubled high draft picks like Scully, Patton, O'Meara, and it's not really working out.

In case anyone's in any doubt, that's a good thing. The bad thing is that they've those four recent flags to enjoy. Oh well.

Started with James Frawley added to their list. Underwhelming first season but lucky to get a cameo in their last premiership win. Since then he did nothing much and epitomised Hawthorn’s recruiting strategy failures and steady decline.

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11 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

No.1 draft picks haven't exactly had the best run of late have they?

Watts

Scully

Boyd

McCartin

Patton

 

Just the ones that come to mind. Different reasons and nothing personal as a whole.

 Doggies fans would love Boyd.

 

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4 hours ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

They got Scully and Patton for nothing though

And they barely played...

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5 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

A shame for mine.  He claims to have genuine regret for his actions. I would have liked to see him become a spokesman & educate young players coming into the system on how to relate to women properly.

what a dumb, knee-jerk suggestion

get someone who has no idea how to treat women and let him loose on young players......sheesh

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I’d be very interested to have a look at the over hit vs miss rate on number one draft picks. It really looks like it’s a poisoned chalice. 

Patton, Watts, Scully, McCartin off the top of my head are number one draft picks that have had early ends to their career. 

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5 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

A shame for mine.  He claims to have genuine regret for his actions. I would have liked to see him become a spokesman & educate young players coming into the system on how to relate to women properly.

And what great advice would he have to pass on?

Patton is lucky not to be in jail

very ordinary human being 

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6 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

And what great advice would he have to pass on?

Patton is lucky not to be in jail

very ordinary human being 

Also a very troubled human being. Which doesn't excuse being "ordinary", but the two often go hand in hand. Hopefully he can get the help he needs, he's clearly not in a good place.

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Just now, bing181 said:

Also a very troubled human being. Which doesn't excuse being "ordinary", but the two often go hand in hand. Hopefully he can get the help he needs, he's clearly not in a good place.

He can get all the help he needs, what about his victims (recipients) If he wasn’t an AFL Footballer he would be in a cell. 
But why do people all of a sudden think he can be an educator just because he was an AFL Listed Player. 

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17 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

No.1 draft picks haven't exactly had the best run of late have they?

Watts

Scully

Boyd

McCartin

Patton

 

Just the ones that come to mind. Different reasons and nothing personal as a whole.

The sad part there 2 from the MFC & not to mention all the other  misses we had.....unbelievable

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1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

And what great advice would he have to pass on?

Patton is lucky not to be in jail

very ordinary human being 

Ah SWYL - The Hanging Judge - predictable comments.

Can you provide evidence that his offences deserved jail. No doubt you would have given Liam Jurrah 10 years in the slammer for his indiscretions.

I happen to believe in redemption & 2nd chances. I have no reason to doubt his sincerity & am sorry he retired.

I guess you never stuffed up in your 20's.

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