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If we gave Smith a three year contract, he contributed strongly for a flag push for two seasons and had one season of pension padding, that is money extremely well spent in my eyes.

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I concur with Nasher. I must be one of the few Demonlanders that think we can salute in 2021.  And I genuinely do. I see shades of Geelong 2006 and Richmond 2016 in this Melbourne side.  Not

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Mate, i totally understand people pointing out i got this one wrong. but surely you understand things change in silly season. as of 3 days ago when i last posted this my source of information was very

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29 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Didn't think of that part.  Obviously it wouldn't be a straight swap, but if they're keen then it could definitely be done.

It might be if Phillips is squeezed out. Nev is still contracted for another year. 

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20 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

He is turning 32 in a few months, even a 2 year contract is a stretch.

The current season was only his 10th, so in terms of wear and tear on the body he is a very young 32.

He is still killing it in the time trials at the Hawks, having won it every season between 2015-2019 and coming 3rd this season, behind a couple of endurance freak new recruits.

So... running/endurance is not an issue, he has good skills, is a booming left kick, we are in desperate need of a left winger and we can get a proven one in Smith for free.

What is not to like?

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1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

The Cats probably just chimed in to make us go to 3 years. 

Doing a favour for Liam Pickering.

Being the gutless club that we are we immediately went to 3 no doubt.

Yea clubs with a salary cap, in a COVID world with money drying up just go in for a player for chits and giggles. Lols.

As above clubs will then freak out to add more money/term because of the above. More lols.

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Interesting to read last years comments in the Isaac Smith thread.  Some reputable reports saying mfc went cold when he wanted 3 years given his age.  And some said he just wanted to cash in on his last few years.

Now to get him we need to go to 3 year terms to outbid others.

Unfortunately, we didn't get him and took Tomlinson for the wing role instead.  Now we are stuck with Tomlinson who can't play the postion he was recruited for, on very good coin for another 3 years at a time when our sal cap is very tight.

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So, if they get Smith, does that support the view, that they think Baker is expendable? Or that merely comparably to Smith for the next two years, Smith out performs him, whilst Baker improves his consistency?

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13 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

So, if they get Smith, does that support the view, that they think Baker is expendable? Or that merely comparably to Smith for the next two years, Smith out performs him, whilst Baker improves his consistency?

If we get him, I'd be telling Baker to shadow him for two years.  He could learn plenty about playing on a wing and then be ready to take over from him when Smith's contract comes to an end.

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12 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

The Cats probably just chimed in to make us go to 3 years. 

Doing a favour for Liam Pickering.

Being the gutless club that we are we immediately went to 3 no doubt.

Though similar. I read that they where not happy with the possibility of Viney using them to get a better deal. Thought it wouldn't put it past them to show some interest to make us pay.

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40 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

So, if they get Smith, does that support the view, that they think Baker is expendable? Or that merely comparably to Smith for the next two years, Smith out performs him, whilst Baker improves his consistency?

Good question.

I would have Langdon teach Baker the tricks of the trade in the same way May is teaching Rivers.  Hard to see Baker getting the game experience he needs if Smith keeps him out.

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Though similar. I read that they where not happy with the possibility of Viney using them to get a better deal. Thought it wouldn't put it past them to show some interest to make us pay.

Heard that on radio.  Geelong is a club that doesn't talk of potential trades.  They will let the media speculate.  So for their CEO to publicly discuss Viney, another clubs VC, they would have been very confident of getting him.  They felt used.

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1 minute ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Heard that on radio.  Geelong is a club that doesn't talk of potential trades.  They will let the media speculate.  So for their CEO to publicly discuss Viney, another clubs VC, they would have been very confident of getting him.  They felt used.

Jesus I hate Geelong. They got their hyper priveleged nose out of joint because Viney stayed with us. Cry me a frikn river.  Unimaginable that a player , having had time to think, would choose to stick with his club rather than go to them. It must be they got used FMD. Hope Viney cuts them a new one next time we play. 

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Jesus I hate Geelong. They got their hyper priveleged nose out of joint because Viney stayed with us. Cry me a frikn river.  Unimaginable that a player , having had time to think, would choose to stick with his club rather than go to them. It must be they got used FMD. Hope Viney cuts them a new one next time we play. 

they got the irits when travis boak didn't leave the pear to come 'home' to them too

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3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Interesting to read last years comments in the Isaac Smith thread.  Some reputable reports saying mfc went cold when he wanted 3 years given his age.  And some said he just wanted to cash in on his last few years.

Now to get him we need to go to 3 year terms to outbid others.

Unfortunately, we didn't get him and took Tomlinson for the wing role instead.  Now we are stuck with Tomlinson who can't play the postion he was recruited for, on very good coin for another 3 years at a time when our sal cap is very tight.

Didn't you notice LH that Tommo was CHB in the last few rounds and made a very good fist  of it. He slso is versatile and cN play as back up ruck Not useless on the wing and go forward At times plus perform a lock down role in defence and add depth to our Club in doing so.

IMO he will be a good selection and valuable by the end of his 4 years without winning the BandF! 

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2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Heard that on radio.  Geelong is a club that doesn't talk of potential trades.  They will let the media speculate.  So for their CEO to publicly discuss Viney, another clubs VC, they would have been very confident of getting him.  They felt used.

Geelong's CEO this week: “We’re in the market big time at the moment for Jeremy Cameron. He’s struggling with making a decision. He’s a loyal bloke.

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Geelong's CEO this week: “We’re in the market big time at the moment for Jeremy Cameron. He’s struggling with making a decision. He’s a loyal bloke.

That says to me they are pretty confident of getting him.  If Cameron doesn't go there every chance they will feel used again.  They understand the game.

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That says to me they are pretty confident of getting him.  If Cameron doesn't go there every chance they will feel used again.  They understand the game.

Jamie Elliott?

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Jesus I hate Geelong. They got their hyper priveleged nose out of joint because Viney stayed with us. Cry me a frikn river.  Unimaginable that a player , having had time to think, would choose to stick with his club rather than go to them. It must be they got used FMD. Hope Viney cuts them a new one next time we play. 

Hard to feel sorry for Geelong in the trade department when the best player in the league fell into their lap at the end of 2015 and agreed to play for well ''unders''. 

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3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Heard that on radio.  Geelong is a club that doesn't talk of potential trades.  They will let the media speculate.  So for their CEO to publicly discuss Viney, another clubs VC, they would have been very confident of getting him.  They felt used.

Welcome to the football world, Geelong. Same thing happened with us and Elliott last year. It happens. Get on with it.

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Managers use all clubs to leverage player contracts.  Its their job. 

That doesn't stop a club being aggrieved by it.  The further down the line they were for a signature the more aggrieved they feel.  That is fairly natural I would have thought.

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5 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Heard that on radio.  Geelong is a club that doesn't talk of potential trades.  They will let the media speculate.  So for their CEO to publicly discuss Viney, another clubs VC, they would have been very confident of getting him.  They felt used.

Well the Cats CEO has said they are heavily into Cameron.

If Cameron stays at GWS, do they offer us more for Preuss, to get back at GWS?

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Well the Cats CEO has said they are heavily into Cameron.

If Cameron stays at GWS, do they offer us more for Preuss, to get back at GWS?

I didn't say anything about Geelong "getting back at us".  That would be juvenile and stupid by them.  My posts referred to a report that they "felt used".    

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